15th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Be the Death of Me

[Tommyboy]

^ Sounds like a plan. It definitely sucks being strung out.

fact. my dope dealer does that all the time. it pisses me off.

but i feel like an asshole. my girlfriend had a super shitty day and was craving coke or opiates. all my guy had were DIRT cheap . i got a dozen op20's for less than 80 bucks because they're op's....so we went to the mall and sniffed 3 (2 for me, 1 for her). i really dont like oxy that much lol. in retrospect, i was an idiot for doing >160mg a day.

but she wanted to do it and said it was either that or dope, so atleast i...uhh...helped?

How did you sniff the OP oxy's? Even with the ped egg they are still stringy, and I doubt you used the micro-freeze method in the mall.

 

[Bill]

^ I wouldn't put that past jeebis

 

[jeebis]

hardy har har. but no, i have a really simple (and effective) method.

take strong scissors or fresh dog nail clippers, cut the op into as small of pieces as possible, put pieces in a spoon, heat with lighter until glassy/melted/light brown or tan, immediately place spoon on ice cube until condensation forms on top, score product with razorblade, scrape off with other spoon, sniff :D

works great. i did the 3 in 20 minutes in the parking lot

 

[HighonLife]

How did you sniff the OP oxy's? Even with the ped egg they are still stringy, and I doubt you used the micro-freeze method in the mall.

ive found the OPs easier to break down with a ped egg than the new opanas n i was able to powder the opanas with a ped egg, plyers and determination (tho it was a bitch n i had calouses on my thumb n pointer finger for a month cuz it took me awhile before i decided to use plyers)

 

[Welderman]

Junky ingenuity at its finest. ^

 

[BlueHues]

hardy har har. but no, i have a really simple (and effective) method.

take strong scissors or fresh dog nail clippers, cut the op into as small of pieces as possible, put pieces in a spoon, heat with lighter until glassy/melted/light brown or tan, immediately place spoon on ice cube until condensation forms on top, score product with razorblade, scrape off with other spoon, sniff :D

works great. i did the 3 in 20 minutes in the parking lot

will used dog nail clippers work?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Another shitty snowy day in NY..

Thank goodness for H to warm the bones... %)

 

[Johnny blue]

You can crisp OPs to snort and it works surprisingly well. Of course you have to shred the little fuckers first but once you get past that it's smooth sailing

Edit-I missed the post by jeebis but, ya that works. Alternatively you can cool them in the freezer for like five minutes and I don't know about cutting them. Pedegg/callous remover ftw.

 

[jeebis]

Blue...you nasty. lol.

and i hear you on the snowy bullshit. i went to work and left in 2 hours because i started getting a wicked bad migraine. threw up some. so i came home, napped, smoked a bowl, and just blew 2 more 20's.

and btw, that crisping method that i posted works perfectly for op's, opana, and time release xanax.

 

[bmoreharfordroad]

theres only one needle exchange in philly if that sways your opinion either way

my god I sound like Im working for the tourism office

It is hard to believe in the city the size of Philly and how much dope is sold there, that there is only 1 needle exchange. They need to get some help in that department, if they got the funds.

 

[dirtydank]

It's worth a try, man. It works really well for some people, people who may not even expect it too sometimes also.

Never been on maintenance, how has it worked for you/friends? For me, I don't have the time, money, or resources to go into a maintenance program that'll leave me strung out on something else I'll have to kick. Knowing me, I'll want to use on top, too.

My eventual goal is to kick everything but weed and psychedelics, as those are the only drugs I can do in moderation. Heroin/opiates always get me in a tough spot, and there's never just one hit, it always drags me into a habit.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Never been on maintenance, how has it worked for you/friends? For me, I don't have the time, money, or resources to go into a maintenance program that'll leave me strung out on something else I'll have to kick. Knowing me, I'll want to use on top, too.

My eventual goal is to kick everything but weed and psychedelics, as those are the only drugs I can do in moderation. Heroin/opiates always get me in a tough spot, and there's never just one hit, it always drags me into a habit.

Yeah it's worked for me in the past and many of my friends. It's also worked for a lot of BL'ers. Many members and staff are either on MMT or suboxone right now.

 

[OpiateGuy]

Sub maintenance didn't work for me.. Id always wanna just say fuck it and do dope.. and id never wanna take subs because i either could possibly have precipitated wd or id be getting dope like 12 hr later so i didnt wanna block it.. Subs dont kill my cravings at all.. just make me not be sick. I think methadone would be pretty good though

 

[SuperDope]

going on being clean for six days tomorrow morning. been a ok withdraw as I only had two 8mg sub strips. Been smoking a little bit of herb here and there but that's about it. Really trying to kick for good or at least go on a long break. Do you think that it's easier for people who sniff to quit vs. IVing and trying to quit? I've never IV'ed before but I imagine that it's a whole other ball game? Thoughts?

My daughter's 5th birthday is coming up and I'm saving money for presents instead of buying dope. Been doing very well as I'm sick of the constant ups and downs associated with withdrawing as I get very depressed. Starting to feel better everydat and the subs for sure helped but I didn't want to rely on subs for a long period of time. I haven't been sober in forever and think that I need to at least smoke weed. But since I'm in a new town I can't find any weed and all my connects are for dope in the city. Man I just want to be clean and lead a normal life again! Thanks I feel better now...

peace

 

[plaspring]

going on being clean for six days tomorrow morning. been a ok withdraw as I only had two 8mg sub strips. Been smoking a little bit of herb here and there but that's about it. Really trying to kick for good or at least go on a long break. Do you think that it's easier for people who sniff to quit vs. IVing and trying to quit? I've never IV'ed before but I imagine that it's a whole other ball game? Thoughts?

My daughter's 5th birthday is coming up and I'm saving money for presents instead of buying dope. Been doing very well as I'm sick of the constant ups and downs associated with withdrawing as I get very depressed. Starting to feel better everydat and the subs for sure helped but I didn't want to rely on subs for a long period of time. I haven't been sober in forever and think that I need to at least smoke weed. But since I'm in a new town I can't find any weed and all my connects are for dope in the city. Man I just want to be clean and lead a normal life again! Thanks I feel better now...

peace

For me it's absolutely a whole new ball game. You're giving your body so much more of the dope when you IV it becomes a lot more dependent on the substance. In my experiences, I never knew real WD until I started IV'ing. Everyone is different with WD's though.

 

[plaspring]

I just got out of a facility this week. Got the Vivitrol shot upon discharge. Anyone have experiences with the shot? So far i feel pretty good, not many urges. They say it fights the urges well. Not sure if it does that chemically in your brain or just subconsciously knowing you can't use. Regardless, both would seem to work I would think.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I just got out of a facility this week. Got the Vivitrol shot upon discharge. Anyone have experiences with the shot? So far i feel pretty good, not many urges. They say it fights the urges well. Not sure if it does that chemically in your brain or just subconsciously knowing you can't use. Regardless, both would seem to work I would think.

Like all things I've heard good and bad. There's a lot of info on it here on BL.

Do a search over in Other Drugs and you'll get a lot of threads regarding vivitrol.

 

[plaspring]

Like all things I've heard good and bad. There's a lot of info on it here on BL.

Do a search over in Other Drugs and you'll get a lot of threads regarding vivitrol.

Anyway of speeding up the process of the blocker? I'm only day two on it lol and I already want to get high. I heard by taking subs a few days in a row it'll get rid of the blocker...perhaps drinking a few days in a row? I'm lost on the whole thing

 

[Bill]

For me it's absolutely a whole new ball game. You're giving your body so much more of the dope when you IV it becomes a lot more dependent on the substance. In my experiences, I never knew real WD until I started IV'ing. Everyone is different with WD's though.

Seems like you get sick a lot quicker too
As in when I was a snorter I wouldn't feel real bad wd symptoms until about the 30 hour mark

After iv'ing, I'd get sick with in half of that time period
And it is indeed a whole new ball game when you start slamming smack, some people say you can go back to intranasal but I bet it's rare

Also besides the greenery, which is always win imo, B12 vitamin shots help a lot too to counteract the fatigue, lethargy, and all out depression the weeks following kicking dope
Pregabalin and gabapentin help also along with maybe some sort of light benzo and sleeping meds for the insomnia at night

Good luck on staying clean, SuperDope, but remember you're not just doing it for you anymore
You have a daughter that needs a stable father figure in her life, not a strung out junkie who is never around

 

[SuperDope]

Seems like you get sick a lot quicker too
As in when I was a snorter I wouldn't feel real bad wd symptoms until about the 30 hour mark

After iv'ing, I'd get sick with in half of that time period
And it is indeed a whole new ball game when you start slamming smack, some people say you can go back to intranasal but I bet it's rare

Also besides the greenery, which is always win imo, B12 vitamin shots help a lot too to counteract the fatigue, lethargy, and all out depression the weeks following kicking dope
Pregabalin and gabapentin help also along with maybe some sort of light benzo and sleeping meds for the insomnia at night

Good luck on staying clean, SuperDope, but remember you're not just doing it for you anymore
You have a daughter that needs a stable father figure in her life, not a strung out junkie who is never around

thanks for the insight! Yes I do want to be a better father as I live with my daughter and girl of 9 years. I just want to be a better father as I'm around her 24/7. I really appreciate the well wishes! Hopefully I have a little bit of herb coming soon but as I'm in a new town I don't have any connects for anything else ie, benzos etc. Been trying to really stay clean with no subs or any long term crutches to fall back on. Yeah I have never shot smack before as I have always sniffed. I lost a good friend to the needle which I swore I would never use. I've quit for long periods of time before and the longest was about two years but I've always had a drug seeking personality. I love my daughter soo much and I want to be around for a long time to come! Really starting to feel a little bit better as the days go by. I was clean for two weeks before my last relapse and I only did 10 bags. So here's hoping to kicking for a long period of time. The worst has been not being able to sleep at night. Thanks for the well wishes Bill I'll keep you guys posted....

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