12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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one thing i have noticed about dealers, around here anyway, is that they are extremely apprehensive about selling to young white kids...and it has nothing to do with any kind of morals its pretty simple really....young white kids are the first to talk if/when they get busted. i can not begin to explain the bullshit i had to go thru to cop when i was younger. i certainly didnt do it so a dozen other mother fuckers can enjoy the fruits of my labor.
 
one thing i have noticed about dealers, around here anyway, is that they are extremely apprehensive about selling to young white kids...and it has nothing to do with any kind of morals its pretty simple really....young white kids are the first to talk if/when they get busted. i can not begin to explain the bullshit i had to go thru to cop when i was younger. i certainly didnt do it so a dozen other mother fuckers can enjoy the fruits of my labor.

so how are you doing these days memph? are you super strung out or are you doin well

as for myself. ive been on methadone for a month.aaaand i havent used once since ive been on methadone. bro it feels so nice to be out of the dope game. no more bs in my life. :)
 
so how are you doing these days memph? are you super strung out or are you doin well

as for myself. ive been on methadone for a month.aaaand i havent used once since ive been on methadone. bro it feels so nice to be out of the dope game. no more bs in my life. :)

im still on suboxone. i normally take 8mg a day....i have slipped up a lot lately though....im kinda worried because i no longer have someone to urinate for me and i refuse to stop smoking weed. last visit i had to get clean piss and come up with some excuse as to why i had absolutely no drugs in my system.
 
im the same way with suboxone. i'll be fuckin around with dope the whole time. but methadone works better for me than suboxone. thats why i havent used since ive been on done. ive been saving my dough and it add$ up. $tackin my paper. feels good mayne

but really tho man.. it ffeels so nice not to be in the dope game
 
Memphis, the difference here is that the dealers are more than willing to meet with new customers, and are usually sick of the middleman who is alway changing the amount of cash they are saying they have on them, and changing the time since they are working on rides, and asking for fronts, etc. As to the "those of u bitching about middlemen grow a pair and get a connect," well we have connects. We were just talking about how our old middlemen will call us up trying to get our connects for free, after they used to middle us for a while and never gave up their connect. They are the last to give up a connect to you, and the first to ask you for your connect. Shameless shit IMO.

Also, my connect pays me for good clients I give him, so instead of going through the bullshit of middlemanning and getting free bags at the expense of others, I just hand over the connect and get free bags at the expense of the dealer. I would only set him up with people that I trusted that wouldn't fuck him over, and he knew all the people I introduced to him were good money. Even when I was 8 hours away at school he would hit me up to see if I knew of anybody dope fiends that might need a new connect, and the couple times I set him up with a new client he wired me money after a month of them buying steady from him. Then when I would come home he would always toss me bags for free.

Basically I agree with Verso that if you never rip people off, and take care of those that take care of you, then you really can't put a price on the good reputation you get from doing that. And if you want to get high and don't have the money for it, then grow some balls and become a real dealer instead of middlemanning mufuckiz.
 
im the same way with suboxone. i'll be fuckin around with dope the whole time. but methadone works better for me than suboxone. thats why i havent used since ive been on done. ive been saving my dough and it add$ up. $tackin my paper. feels good mayne

but really tho man.. it ffeels so nice not to be in the dope game

I was just talking to my boy about this shit yesterday. We were copping from someone outside the outpatient place they goto, and I was saying how I hate NA and a lot of outpatient places because of how all the people love flashing their dough around since they're not spending it on dope for once. They love doing that shit to show they haven't gone soft since quitting, but then end up relapsing since they never really gave up the lifestyle.

So TRM, please don't become one of the kids that gets clean so they can buy a honda civic to soup it up, then get your fresh haircut and gold chainz so you can look fly while slinging bootleg DVDs in the parking lot outside your NA meetings or clinic (does anybody else have this type in their towns?). Basically don't turn your dope addiction into another addiction, because soon enough you will realize that you liked dope better than your new addiction, and you will find yourself relapsing.
 
Memphis, the difference here is that the dealers are more than willing to meet with new customers, and are usually sick of the middleman who is alway changing the amount of cash they are saying they have on them, and changing the time since they are working on rides, and asking for fronts, etc. As to the "those of u bitching about middlemen grow a pair and get a connect," well we have connects. We were just talking about how our old middlemen will call us up trying to get our connects for free, after they used to middle us for a while and never gave up their connect. They are the last to give up a connect to you, and the first to ask you for your connect. Shameless shit IMO.

Also, my connect pays me for good clients I give him, so instead of going through the bullshit of middlemanning and getting free bags at the expense of others, I just hand over the connect and get free bags at the expense of the dealer. I would only set him up with people that I trusted that wouldn't fuck him over, and he knew all the people I introduced to him were good money. Even when I was 8 hours away at school he would hit me up to see if I knew of anybody dope fiends that might need a new connect, and the couple times I set him up with a new client he wired me money after a month of them buying steady from him. Then when I would come home he would always toss me bags for free.

Basically I agree with Verso that if you never rip people off, and take care of those that take care of you, then you really can't put a price on the good reputation you get from doing that. And if you want to get high and don't have the money for it, then grow some balls and become a real dealer instead of middlemanning mufuckiz.

Yea that shit just wouldn't fly around here. I have met maybe 2 dealers that let ^me pass people to them. If you were close to me I would be glad to do my best to introduce you but if you are only an acquaintance fuck that. I'm talking about those kids that you met thru dope and call you constantly. I have never charged an outrageous thing for it.


Tbh I wouldn't have minded passin most of then to the dealer simply because a lot of them were fucking annoying, but again, hardly any dealer I have met allows that.


My dilaudid connect has cut me off because I brought this chick I was fucking at the time with me
 
I may go the methane route iftgis suboxone keeps up like this. It's expensive as shit and it's always a fucking hassle
 
^ We'll keep in mind that the dope game isnt really the same as the pill trade. With dope there is an unlimited supply and plenty of dealers to compete, so a lot of them are fine with taking on new customers and if they don't want to get too hot then they just up the minimum order. This way there is a lot less traffic coming through, and they aren't losing out too much on sales.

With pills though there is a limited supply, especially now with the monitoring programs. So due to low supply and high demand, pill dealers can be more picky with who they sell to, because they are going to sell out no matter what. Also pill dealers generally have a lot more to lose, so that's another reason why they are more cautious with who they deal with. As long as they can sell out each month, then there is no need to expand clientele.
 
TRM you have not been clean and on "done for a month"..you have been on done since may22 so what's that 2weeks?..it might feel like a month and your doin real good but it hasn't been that long..don't kid yourself.

And all this middleman talk is all subjective and goes to show you how everyone and how everycity does things different..the way one person allows to be taken advantage of is completly different then another..memph you said you would sell your sister and I know its a joke but I wouldn't even joke like that..I guess I'm not a hardcore junkie like yall..maybe cause I don't slam my shit but whatever..if I'm being middlemanned fine but of you say your gonna hand over your connect then that's the deal..I don't play no fuckin games,if you think your gonna be slick ill beat the shitout of your junkie Ass and leave you on the side of the road a long ways away from home..and I'm not being a tough guy I'm being real...and I guess my people know that...cause I've never had problems like yall seen to have
 
I never minded paying the tax to a middleman because then I didn't have to take the risk. The last time I used one there car was impounded for being in a drug area. They never got the car back because they could no afford it. Of course they whined about it to me but that's why I paid the tax.
 
Yeah I think that Tommy pretty much hit upon all the points I wanted to make, so, without beating a dead horse I'll just say that I met with my newest connect for the second time, and I guess that I need to learn to shut my trap when talking to him.

It won't be a problem, as I've had dealers like this before who don't want you telling them your whole life story over the phone; they just want to know how much you're coming with and how long before you're at "the spot." I guess that I've just become too comfortable with my other guy who is so laid back and chill and has no problem at all chatting it up on the phone.

The bags are good though, man. Real good, and I'm glad to have him as one of my new connects.

EDIT: Oh, and the girlfriend and I were out to dinner tonight when I got a text from another one of these scabs who used to middle us; he had two bags that he wanted to get rid of for cheap so that he could go ahead and buy some hard instead, and of course he said that he'd hook me up with the connect.

I would have done it for someone else, maybe, to help a friend out or whatever... but two things:

1. The last time we spoke, he called me a "little bitch," and rubbed it in my face that I'd never get his connect again and I'd have to start going through him again if I wanted those bags. (I had been going to see his dealer directly after this kid went away to jail for a few months, and honestly, after nearly a year of his taxing us... I felt entitled to his connect at that point anyway, so I didn't feel like I was stealing it from him or whatever.)

Yeah, well, long story short... I ended up losing touch with this dealer and once this kid got out of jail, he somehow got back in touch with him and then refused to give me the dealer's new number even though I had already been seeing his dealer for months and his dealer knew who I was and would surely see me again.

2. I asked him what the stamp on the bags was, and it's a stamp I'm already familiar with; I already have that connect's number.

So, naturally, I told him to fuck off. lol

Feels good, man.
 
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I'm high so I'm keeping this short, someone asked about how fat my bags are from CMD. This is a random bag, I didn't go in and pick out the fattest, or the best looking or anything like that. Just happened to be my last bag..

The pic of the side shot KIND OF shows how fat they are, but even that picture doesn't do it justice. I mean these fuggers are FAT. Anyway heres a few pics I took, I dunno how it looks to you guys (for me I know how fat it is) but it's just like all the rest: A hefty heavy bag.

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Also in the 1st pic there is more dope above/below/behind my thumb that I gently flicked down to take picture #2 so that it was all together so you could see it through the the bag with the light behind it. Also in the 3rd pic you can see it stays fat above the fold as well...

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I never minded paying the tax to a middleman because then I didn't have to take the risk. The last time I used one there car was impounded for being in a drug area. They never got the car back because they could no afford it. Of course they whined about it to me but that's why I paid the tax.

I'm totally a middleman for a bunch of people and unless I can figure out a way to charge extra or pinch a bit, these Chicago friends of mine REFUSE to pay tax. Even now with gas at 4 bucks a gallon. And you know what? I never ever minded helping them out. I'm happy to help out my friends, but MAN are they greedy cheapskate motherlovers. Suggestions on how to beat it into their heads that I'm doing them a favor? Should I cut everyone off for a few weeks?

What do you guys think?
Gwen
 
What do you guys think?
Gwen
Stop being their bitch especially if you aren't getting anything out of it. So yeah cut them off unless they're going to start throwing you bags or paying you extra for getting bags for them. People can be so greedy and inconsiderate so its time they learned their lesson.
 
That's a first. We always assumed most of our dope came from Chicago.


Where did you get the idea that it flows from us to y'all?

My main people are pretty high up on the food chain. He has family down in Memphis. He goes down there on the bus, stays for a week, and then comes back on the train with 50 grams somewhere on his person - he told me he was sorta scared and freaking out (for a guy who's been in Federal Prison, etc. I can't believe he told me that.) So yeah he heads down there every other month or so....
 
Stop being their bitch especially if you aren't getting anything out of it. So yeah cut them off unless they're going to start throwing you bags or paying you extra for getting bags for them. People can be so greedy and inconsiderate so its time they learned their lesson.

Yeah but what happens is I'm hanging out with Person A at their house. Person B shows up and says, hey can I get some "XYZ". I say sure, but I'm not going over there without a decent sized order. So person A comes up with something decent so person B can get two pills. I jump in the car. Run over there, back in 10 minutes and yeah that's it. No extra, no pinching. All the prices went up so I can't say "X" price, I have to give it to them at the price I pay. Plus they're friends and we're all hanging out. I don't want to lose a couple of friends based on a couple of bucks.

People I barely know, friends with person A, I've pinched and then I've gotten the "it's light" rant and "you should call your people and tell them they're ripping us off" and I finally came out and said, "you know what, motherfucker, I pinched it. Why? Because you're a cheap shit and won't spend the "X" bucks to buy me a bag."

And then he says, "well, we'll work something out like every 5 bags I'll buy you one." This coming from a cheapskate who only buys 2 at a time...

Man, don't get me started.

I'm gonna stop being their bitch. Thanks StayFaded. You have given me courage.
xooxx
Gwen

No one would dare call me for less than a three digit order and if it's powder I can make a killing. The dope and the pills and the crack is where I can't figure out how to charge extra or "tax". I should just put my foot down, stayfaded. And say no.
 
well gwen, how do they know the prices you pay? if they do, that is kind of your first mistake. or if you told them thats cool but you should have laid some ground rules early on that you are doing the running around/them a favor and you need some compensation. i would just become the dealer, set your own prices and if they don't like it, then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5atPYaxX0lM
 
^well a dime bag is a dime bag. That costs a dime - it's universal! The only place I make cash is on coke and pills. But now that I've moved to the suburbs, I can't really be at anyone's beck and call anymore.... Which is fine for me. The rock bands who come through usually call me with an order the week before, as they're so excited to be in Chicago!

And the one guy was my boyfriend so I had to be cool.... He is no longer my boyfriend but my drug buddy and he is a pot dealer, so he always throws an extra $5 for gas. Which is sweet. Very unlike him while we were dating. LOL
 
I'm high so I'm keeping this short, someone asked about how fat my bags are from CMD. This is a random bag, I didn't go in and pick out the fattest, or the best looking or anything like that. Just happened to be my last bag..

The pic of the side shot KIND OF shows how fat they are, but even that picture doesn't do it justice. I mean these fuggers are FAT. Anyway heres a few pics I took, I dunno how it looks to you guys (for me I know how fat it is) but it's just like all the rest: A hefty heavy bag.

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Added NSFW Tags -
Also in the 1st pic there is more dope above/below/behind my thumb that I gently flicked down to take picture #2 so that it was all together so you could see it through the the bag with the light behind it. Also in the 3rd pic you can see it stays fat above the fold as well...

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221.jpg

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Yea those are really fat, but how is the quality? If my dope was in bags that fat, I would only need 1 bag to get me high. Right now it takes 3 bags for that, and those bags are 3x the size of mine. They are just a tiny bit bigger than some of the bags one of my sources has, and 1 1/2 was all I needed to sniff to get scary I might OD high.

I'm totally a middleman for a bunch of people and unless I can figure out a way to charge extra or pinch a bit, these Chicago friends of mine REFUSE to pay tax. Even now with gas at 4 bucks a gallon. And you know what? I never ever minded helping them out. I'm happy to help out my friends, but MAN are they greedy cheapskate motherlovers. Suggestions on how to beat it into their heads that I'm doing them a favor? Should I cut everyone off for a few weeks?

What do you guys think?
Gwen

Why don't you charge 10 - 15 bucks a head? I have one middleman I still use, and was only buying one bag from him for a long ass time. One day he asked me why, and I told him that I only cop from him when my dealer isn't around, and I would rather only get one bag from him since if I got more I would be blowing my money away since I could get twice as much from my dealer. So after that, he just said fuck it and only charged me 10 bucks for gas, and I got all my bags for the price the dealer sells them for. I've known him for a while and we chill some, so I guess he figured it was stupid to keep me from getting high by trying to tax each bag, and would rather have my gas money all the time since I would be going through him a lot more if that's all he's charging, and sure enough I go through him more often now since I'm only paying that gas money, which I would be paying half of anyway if I was driving. So in the end he gets gas money which mostly goes to dope I'm sure, and then since bundles are cheaper than the single bag price, he gets the deal on the bundle, which is like 2 free bags (more like buy 8, get 2 free).
 
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