12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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Tommyboy said:
I think I'm just explaining it bad because I'm sure you know what I mean. Do your glassine bags come in heat sealed bags, or zip lock bags? It's the same thing that I'm talking about, but they are shaped for the rectangle bags.

After the bag is folded into the rectangle, it's slid inside a transparent plastic sleeve like that, either clear or different colors, and heat sealed at the end.

I thought they did the same thing it Camden, just with bigger plastic sleeves to accomodate the square bags.
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Ahhh yes, yes, now I know what you mean. I just didn't understand because you said the stamp was on the inside of the plastic. I didn't realize you still meant on the glassine bag, the way I read it I thought you were saying someone actually stamped the plastic part. Also I have never seen a large sleeve like that though, I've seen the small ones (that's how coke comes around here, about skinny enough to barely fit a pencil) but it seems like a better idea, with the exception that yours are heat sealed, they should just leave them loose. Heat sealing things is a pain in the ass. The wide bags you talk about are the NY style glassine bags, and NY ones (at least the ones I've seen) have come in just wider zip lock dime bags. Little dime bags come in millions of sizes. They all go by #'s - like 20-25 or 120-125, 100-150, stuff like that (I can't remember the exact #'s, but you get the idea - they come in all sorts of shapes)

Mine come in dime bags though (see pic attached below) that "sony" bag is actually one of my bags and my hand holding it.

Sorry about the large pic... didn't want to resize since I'm on a time budget and had to half ass it.

verso said:
Anyway... that whole heat-sealing thing would piss me off! I have a hard enough time fumbling around with the tape and shit, and unfolding the bags and whatever... to put another heat-sealted, plastic bag over it? I think I'd just get exhausted, say "fuck it," and give up. lol
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Yes exactly! The only tape I've ever gotten though is when I got my bags from NY and they were actually taped on the glassine part and that is a rarity around NJ. Tape is completely unnecessary in all aspects. Maybe with those sleeves it would be nice, but literally a split second lick of the flame would seal it good enough where it'll hold, but at the same time doesn't have to be a PITA.

Though again, that "Ace of spades" and the "Kiss of death" tapes are pretty cool. But that is there for advertising. Not sealing.

Tommyboy said:
The first heroin I ever bought was heat-sealed in a black transparent bag,
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And that's another thing - the colored sleeve. All my shit is clear. I hate white bags since it's hard to see how much dope is in them, and I have never, not once, ever seen a "Sleeve" let alone a colored bag, or even rarer - a colored sleeve ... Weird....
 
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SM0K3Y said:
Sorry for the assumption. I know since you been stuck on pain pills for awhile you are no stranger to opiates, but from what I seem to collect is females have a harder time with W/D's, and you are still young yet. I'm not trying to preach to you (as that'd be pretty hypocritical anyway...) I just hope life works out better for you than it did for me and some others here. And again since you are a grown woman obviously I'm just trying to give you advice. I've been hooked for probably 5 years, my mom has been on and off for about 20, and my father passed away november 2010 due to complications from all the dope use. It's a long hard life, I just want to tell you to try and have your fun but quit while you still got some time. After highschool ended I could have quit my shit but decided against it. My biggest mistake.

I remember doing oxy's and roxi's, that shit was baby-nuts compared to opana's and dope. I got clean every 2-3 months for a week or two when my dealer would run out of oxy's. As soon as I got hooked on opana's though and moved to dope, I was done for. Dope really isn't any more addicting than pills, just the fact its cheaper makes it really worth while (and easier to go crazy)
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No, I totally understand and thanks for the advice. I know I should get off dope, well opiates period but its been an on and off thing. Its like I feel good when I get clean but then for some reason I always fuck it up but my life is super stressful. I have a lot going on and dope just made things easier... I however seen the bad side of dope and pills.. Many people I've known have either ended up in rehab (a good thing), jail or dead. Its always one of the three. I also went through the death of my boyfriend who was also my best friend. He overdosed on heroin and ended up in a coma but died the same day. He never woke up. That's before I touched heroin though (he died April 18th, 2011). So I don't know why I touched dope. Its like every time I comedown I not only feel like shit because of that but because I'm using a drug that took the person I loved so much away. I think I did it though because I wanted to know what was so good about dope that it caused him to lose his life. I also have been depressed and couldn't afford oxycontin anymore especially not 80's... So for this year I've been graduated from high school all I've been doing is getting high and working so I can get high.

Shit, I got accepted to many universities even penn state university park and really good private schools but things happened and I let them take over me... So I slipped back into drugs. I don't want to be addicted to opiates anymore and I want to get better before its too late. I'm planning on going to a community college for a year just because I really could save money and then I'm most likely going to go to a university in philly... I live not too far from philly now but I'm going to be worried about going to school in north philly and trying to stay away from dope :\ but I really want to go to a university down there.

Anyways, I'm sorry for all the things you've been through and your losses. I know you've heard that a lot but really I'm sorry. I hope you can get clean and fix up your life as well. I know you like dope but who doesn't? But I just hope there is a time in our lives where we just can say I don't need it anymore before its too late.
 
I can see heat-sealing bundles to keep out the humidity and moisture and whatever, but each individual bag? yikes!
 
verso said:
I can see heat-sealing bundles to keep out the humidity and moisture and whatever, but each individual bag? yikes!
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I think they do that so the lower level people don't pinch outta the bags...
I could be wrong...
 
^ I doubt it. Nobody messes with the bags that are just taped shut, so the extra seal wouldn't do much to deter people from dipping into it. I think it's just more professional and it protects the dope from the elements.

verso said:
I can see heat-sealing bundles to keep out the humidity and moisture and whatever, but each individual bag? yikes!
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Yea, I definitely don't envy the person that has the heroin-bag-heat-sealer position in the operation. I always wondered why they don't put the whole bundle in the zip-lock bags in Camden. I guess it might be since it would be a pain to tell which bag had less if you took any loose bags out of the bun. It would also be a lot easier to be ripped off for more cash if the whole bun was in one bag.
 
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Tommyboy said:
Yea man. I knew that the pic of your bag had the whole bag covered in that, but figured 80mg was referring to the bags in my pic since it's the only similar looking thing that I remember from around where hes from. Now that I remember it was a sticker instead of tape, which is still going above and beyond for shit that sells itself, but it's nice to see the added effort.

The only other bags that I heard of that had a sticker like that were these "kiss of death" bags.
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The only other different packaging that I have seen is the heat sealed plastic with the stamp inside which is pretty common in some areas, and a transparent plastic stamp bag instead of it being wax/glassine, but it was still folded the same and everything.
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No the WHOLE bag was like that. Its the best dope I EVER had.
 
Tommyboy said:
^ I doubt it. Nobody messes with the bags that are just taped shut, so the extra seal wouldn't do much to deter people from dipping into it. I think it's just more professional and it protects the dope from the elements.
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It's true, and I'm actually surprised that more people don't screw around with the bags. I've only done it once before, but it can be done if you've got the time and enough bags to make it worth-while.

You've got to cut a straw in such a way that it makes a little scoop at the end. It's hard to explain what I mean, but once you've got the tiny scooping straw, you just take off the tape, unfold the bag, drop the straw in so that it picks up just a tiny, tiny bit of powder at the bottom... then you take it out, dump the powder onto a mirror or whatever, and then simply refold and retape. You do that to each bag, and if you've got at least ten bags that are fat enough to begin with, then you will have enough for maybe one big fat line or two regular-sized lines.

I think we pinched something like 15 bags, and we had three decent-sized lines. I was even there for when the kids split up the bags, began unfolding, ripping them open, and fixing up; at first one kid was like, "oh shit I think he fucked with the bags," meaning the dealer and not me, but then he was like, "nah never mind they're okay."

I was thinking, yeah, no, we definitely pinched those bags. lol But in my defense, the kid was a real douchebag, and he'd tax us all the time, or the bundles would be a bag or two short, or both... he'd tax us and the bundles would come up short! So, I considered this to be his long overdue comeuppance.
 
Goddamn I knocked over the same bottle of IBC root beer 3 fuckin times in the same spot, nodding out and headbutting the bottle...it was my last bottle too : (
 
SM0K3Y said:
Well what area do you live in? I'm assuming you get tar then correct? If you get powder I'd be surprised. Powder inside of a dime bag kinda sticks to the plastic and gets funny when it's sitting in your pocket. The wax bags do a lot of good for powder dope, while tar can kinda go through the elements a little better and be less effected. What does tar taste like anyway? Powder dope tastes good, it's got kind of a bitter taste that you have to get accustomed to, but still a lot of them taste like vitamins n stuff.
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I do not get tar. I've only had tar once and that was when a friend brought it down for me from New Jersey (or was it New York?).. I get either scramble (powder) or raw (solid chunks that break down into powder). The powder definitely sticks to the plastic, but for whatever reason no one I've copped from seems to use the wax bags.
 
Jim Carroll: First, it's a Saturday night thing when you feel cool like a gangster or a rockstar- just something to kill the boredom, you know? They call it a chippie, a small habit. It feels so good, you start doing it on Tuesdays... then Thursdays... then it's got you. Every wise ass punk on the block says it won't happen to them, but it does.
 
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