Okay so I've never actually tried to do a CWE on any drug before, but I am getting a script of 120 Norcos (1200 mg total Hydro) tonight and have a tolerance of shooting 12-15 Roxie's a day, more if $ permits. Basically what I'm saying is I know Im going to have to take at least 200mg or so of Hydro to "feel" it. Is it possible to CWE all 120 pills at once? If so, how much water should I use? And I've read contradicting methods on beginning with warm water then mixing and putting in freezer/fridge until the APAP and fillers settle VS using cold water from the very start. Any info is greatly appreciated since this is my first time and I want to preserve as much Hydro as possible. Thanks!
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1200 mg Hydrocodone CWE
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JackiesBabyy
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Sorry, but I just have to say it - If you're shooting that many PILLS per day, you'll probably be dead very soon anyway.
mrflowers00
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i shoot twice that or more a day and it would take about 400mg of hydro to get me buzzed now you would need a shit load of water to do a CWE on 120 norcos and you'll have a lot of tylenol left over DON'T DO IT
^ yeah don't eat that much APAP definitely!
There are degrees of harm. Safest thing is not to do it; next safest is to perform a CWE properly; performing one improperly and not removing enough APAP is dangerous.
In terms of water, there are guidelines out there (see this thread) but personally, I go for the smallest amount you need to dissolve the pills into a liquid (as opposed to just making a sludge). Bear in mind that 1000mg APAP is present in 100ml room temp water; max dose in one go is 2000mg so use as little water as possible and cool it well below room temp especially if you're using a larger volume. It's easily possible to fit that much hydrocodone in there, but the pill fillers/binders might cause a problem. I've dissolved 64 pills before but no more.
It doesn't matter if you start with warm or cold water. Warm will be easier for making your solution, but cold works fine if you either crush the pills or use a hand blender. Make sure you cool the water right down before filtering though, or you will have more than 1000mg APAP dissolved per 100ml.
Take a look at the thread I linked, and bear in mind that it might just not be possible with that many pills; plus the consequences of ingesting more APAP than you mean to.
There are degrees of harm. Safest thing is not to do it; next safest is to perform a CWE properly; performing one improperly and not removing enough APAP is dangerous.
In terms of water, there are guidelines out there (see this thread) but personally, I go for the smallest amount you need to dissolve the pills into a liquid (as opposed to just making a sludge). Bear in mind that 1000mg APAP is present in 100ml room temp water; max dose in one go is 2000mg so use as little water as possible and cool it well below room temp especially if you're using a larger volume. It's easily possible to fit that much hydrocodone in there, but the pill fillers/binders might cause a problem. I've dissolved 64 pills before but no more.
It doesn't matter if you start with warm or cold water. Warm will be easier for making your solution, but cold works fine if you either crush the pills or use a hand blender. Make sure you cool the water right down before filtering though, or you will have more than 1000mg APAP dissolved per 100ml.
Take a look at the thread I linked, and bear in mind that it might just not be possible with that many pills; plus the consequences of ingesting more APAP than you mean to.
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BiggDirty01
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I highly suggest you try trading your Hydrocodone for either Oxycodone or Hydromorphone (dilaudid) with the hydromorphone being the best overall option. Even the best CWE solution is still going to have way too much filler, APAP, and binders to give you a safe shooting solution.
Trust me, the risk of developing deadly clots in your veins or lungs from a hydrocodone solution is just not worth the risk of your life. Even in the best spirit of HR, selling your hydrocodone to obtain some heroin (tar or powder depending on where you live) is a far better option than your shooting hydro plan.
Be safe bro, it is not worth your life.
I highly suggest you try trading your Hydrocodone for either Oxycodone or Hydromorphone (dilaudid) with the hydromorphone being the best overall option. Even the best CWE solution is still going to have way too much filler, APAP, and binders to give you a safe shooting solution.
Trust me, the risk of developing deadly clots in your veins or lungs from a hydrocodone solution is just not worth the risk of your life. Even in the best spirit of HR, selling your hydrocodone to obtain some heroin (tar or powder depending on where you live) is a far better option than your shooting hydro plan.
Be safe bro, it is not worth your life.
^ oof were you thinking of shooting the filtrate OP? Do not do this - not only will it contain APAP and fillers/binders which can cause damage to veins and lungs, but hydrocodone is very dangerous IV'd and can cause a fatal histamine release much like an anaphylactic shock.
Shooting street heroin is not safe either but shooting a filtrate made from such a large volume of pills, and containing hydrocodone, is very very dangerous.
Not sure if you meant that or not
Shooting street heroin is not safe either but shooting a filtrate made from such a large volume of pills, and containing hydrocodone, is very very dangerous.
Not sure if you meant that or not
I still think the amount of APAP left after the water extraction would be too great to even be considered safe for oral consumption. I'd just avoid it or find a safer alternative as others have said. It seems to be a lot of risk to take on for just catching a mild buzz.
Sorry if I gave the wrong idea - No No No I was NOT planning on shooting the hydro after CWE. I mentioned the amount of oxy I bang to give a general idea on my tolerance level. I just crush up ( using a pill grinder) very, very finely 20 pills. So 200mg Hydrocodone and 6500mg APAP. Now all I need to know is how much water to mix the powder hydro in and then was going to mix it up very well for a few minutes, making sure all the hydro dissolves (as well as other shit, I know ) and stick it in the fridge and possibly leave over night to make sure EVERYTHING I don't want has settled at the bottom of the solution and then pour through a coffee filter or two and enjoy with a glass of Grapefruit Juice for breakfast.
) and stick it in the fridge and possibly leave over night to make sure EVERYTHING I don't want has settled at the bottom of the solution and then pour through a coffee filter or two and enjoy with a glass of Grapefruit Juice for breakfast. 
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360 to 450 mg oxy a day isn't THAT much. Some heroin junkies shoot 20+ bags a day which is 2grams + and heroin is 2 or more X more potent than oxy, although since street heroin is usually less than 50% pure it is likely equal potency. Anyways I'd only do about 30 pills cwe at a time, 120 pills worth of apap Will clog the filter way to quick.
I know a pain patient who orally takes twelve 80s and nine 40mg oc's a day, and he's still getting originals although this is the last scrip b4 he gets the new Oxyneos. But that is like 1.3 g's a day of oxy , and oral bio is most as high as Iv.
Did the CWE on 20 of them last night using about 100ml of warm water to begin with and then let sit in the fridge overnight (7 hours or so). Filtered the solution through a coffee filter this morning and downed the filtered solution with gatorade. I was amazed at how much goop (APAP and other fillers) were left in the filter. I'm guessing no more than 1200-1500mg of APAP got through at the very most, because when I have taken around that much in the past, I get a bad stomach ache which was non-existant this morning. Surprisingly I'm still feeling great from the 200mg Hydro about 3 hours post-ingestion
BiggDirty01
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^ oof were you thinking of shooting the filtrate OP? Do not do this - not only will it contain APAP and fillers/binders which can cause damage to veins and lungs, but hydrocodone is very dangerous IV'd and can cause a fatal histamine release much like an anaphylactic shock.
Shooting street heroin is not safe either but shooting a filtrate made from such a large volume of pills, and containing hydrocodone, is very very dangerous.
Not sure if you meant that or not
When the impression was to shoot the hydro solution, shooting street heroin (in terms of HR under his circumstance) would be safer than to shoot hydro, not that shooting is ever safe, but it seems like it would be safer than shooting a cwe solution.
PoppyLlama
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you wont be able to filter that much APAP at once, it will just clog and sit their and your pills will be ruined. if you are doing more than 300 mgs of oxy a day, and SHOOTING it nonetheless, then you're fucked anyway, just take them for pain or sell em or something. but a) it's not going to work and b) you'd need to take like half of them anyway and c) slow the fuck down cuz you're heading towards a train crash. unless you have unlimited money and are immune to withdrawals then you are gonna eff yourself in the A.