11th Issue Heroin Discussion v. So I warmed the piss up in my mouth

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He i fine he finished and said it was awesome....

Ya nausea is a sign but he got nauseated after he was sober...... I talked to him on the the entir time to make surehe did not over do it.

I kept rminding him bot to treat it like coke... First day he got nauseated and no high..

Second time different day he was fine....

When e was nauseated he only snorted three tiny key bumps...
Few pages back in this forum he talked about him hogh.

Edit- my screen is broken hard to type sorry for all the istakes
 
i was accused of sntching and it hurt my business until evryone found out that the kid who claimd i snitched on was the one that was snitching..he found out i got arrested and tried blaming me until we saw hs name in the paper with an arrest of his own 4days before i got arrested

then 6months later i got snitched on, and all they wanted me to do was gice up my guy and the fucked up thing was they knew my dude by name and what he drove and that al they need me to do is say his name and i just couldnt do it..i told them you caught me slippin, not him..why wnould i put hm n my shoes? i pent 2 month in jail and still doing probation for it and he stopped selling but was able to walk away with no felony convictions..my mom and family was pissed i didnt snitch saying "do you think he would keep his mouth shut for you?" and i believe he would..heis my first friend i got when i moved to this house so i have known him for 15years at least, and i couldnt throw him under th bus like that
 
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If someone owed you a bunch of money, say over $400 (for a year now), would you think it's out of line for them to ask if they could throw down with you or get some bags the next time you get them?

That's kind of a dickish thing to do right? What about if they asked you to also get them a rig and drop it at their house and they were trying to get it at the same price that you bought it for even though it's like a 30 minute ride between the kids house and the spot you get the bags. Is it just me or would that seem extremely selfish by the other person.


That's what's going on with a "friend" of mine. I wouldn't put it in quotes like that, but this whole money thing has soured me on the kid because he has got to be the most selfish person I know. Even though he owes me money, I had grabbed some bags today, and they were GOOD. So I texted him to see if he wanted a couple, on the condition that he has the cash for it today, and that I won't be back in town until after 8pm. I also slightly marked up the two bags he was getting by $5 each. This was to reflect the $1 cost of the rig, the time it takes, the driving, the throwing down more money to meet the guy, for actually doing the meet, and the risk. So I'd be getting back $9 minus the cost of gas. That caused him to send a bunch of texts on how come I only text him about bags when he's broke (which is always) or how I never pick up the phone when he has money to pay me back (I don't really believe that ever happened, but whatever), and how the bags better be good if they were being marked up $5. 8)

Anyways, it was getting close to my class time and I didn't have enough time to go back to the pharmacy and get his rig, so I would just get it after class. I turned off my phone before class because he texts a lot and I didn't want to be distracted by my phone vibrating. The class is 2.5 hours long, so we get a break midway through. I check my phone and he has sent me texts asking if I could be back before 8 because he has to be somewhere or something. So I just reply , "No, I'm at school".

After class I end up talking with my teacher for a bit, but I didn't get back to my car until 8pm. The pharmacy part of the corner market/pharmacy closes at 8pm, so I sort of fucked up by not getting his rig. During that time he had sent me a bunch of texts about if I was out yet and he was missing this thing by waiting for me, even though I told him I wouldn't get out any earlier. So I call him and tell him I'm still at school and that I unfortunately do not have a rig for him. He starts whining about how he's all stressed out and he missed this thing he had to go to and then he starts yelling about how I could have communicated more and whatnot. Once he started yelling I just hung up the phone.


Was I in the wrong here? I feel bad that I couldn't get him the rig and now I don't really want to give him these bags either. I feel kind of like a dick though, but he does owe me over $400 and I had told him I wouldn't be back before 8pm (so I don't know why he didn't go to whatever he had to go to). He could have driven down to the school and picked the bags up from me during the break or before my class had started if he really wanted them before 8pm, but I wasn't about to skip class just because he couldn't wait. Also, two weeks ago, I had picked up bags, the rig, and drove up to his house after class to give him two bags. For the rig, time, gas, doing the deal, I only marked up the bags by $2.50 each, but he didn't have the money that night, even though he told me he would. Then he told me I'd get it the next day, which I didn't, and then I asked him about it a few days after and he just never responded.

I was trying to do him a favor by grabbing him some bags, since I knew he'd want them, but I feel like he is asking way too much of me. I should be yelling at him for not giving me my money and shit, but I still feel bad. Was I in the wrong here?
 
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Someone who owes you money should be paying you with at least some of payment plan to at least show he is trying to pay you back...

Instead he spending money that should be going to you on bullshit & still being a cheap skate when you cop him some dope/rigs... seems like your putting to much thought into this & his not putting any thought towards it....
 
first if he orders up some bags and then he doesnt have the cash then there is no way im givin them to him..and second only dope fiends can put blame on people who are doing them a favor and make them feel bad even though they did nothing wrong except they are late returning with the bags or didnt grab as many as they wanted..its not your fault man and dont let him guilt trip you..

since your are never gonna get that 400$ up front from the guy, you mght as well tax him as much as possible for them bags and collect it here and there when you can..im talkin 5-10$ more per bag and if he doesnt like it then fuck him..
 
I wouldn't get him shit unless he gives money up front. Then I would tax the shit out of him.
 
I'd tell him he's gotta start chipping away at that debt. Even if its just fifty at a time. I'd just be straight and tell him that you can't be getting him shit when he already owes ya. I don't cuff shit anymore to anyone that isn't blood. Tracking motherfuckers down on their pay day is too much work.
 
ssssoooo my dboy called me today all buddy like. i guess he just got out of jail i did not bring it up but i know that is the case. pretty sure he will need cash sooooo he calls with a new number and he was like hit me up.

so should i? i do not think he would set me up because why would the cops want someone like me just a dope head. wouldn't they go after the bigger fish? i did call him back and he was like its all good come on thru. so i think i will because it has always been the bomb..

I can't imagine something like that happening; surely the police would want to work their way up the food chain and not down.

I've had something similar happen to me when my guy disappeared for like two days which was really, really unusual because he's so unbelievably consistent. (I've never called him and had him be out of product, and I've never called him and not have him either answer the phone or immediately call me back within 5 minutes.)

I got a call from him a few days later, and he told me straight-up that he had caught a charge (not related to drugs or drug-dealing, believe it or not), but he told me he was still in the game if I needed anything. I was skeptical, but everything was on the up and up... he caught a charge, spent a couple days in jail, posted bail and now he's back at it.
 
first if he orders up some bags and then he doesnt have the cash then there is no way im givin them to him..and second only dope fiends can put blame on people who are doing them a favor and make them feel bad even though they did nothing wrong except they are late returning with the bags or didnt grab as many as they wanted..its not your fault man and dont let him guilt trip you..

since your are never gonna get that 400$ up front from the guy, you mght as well tax him as much as possible for them bags and collect it here and there when you can..im talkin 5-10$ more per bag and if he doesnt like it then fuck him..

Exactly man. Hardcore junkies are notorious for being very good at manipulating people. They also have a very short-term memory when it comes to copping dope since they are hustling everyday to get their fix, so they are very quick to forget about owing people and all the favors people have done for them, since they are looking for more the next day.

Carl, you should just cut the dead weight and stop talking to your "friend". Chances are he's not going to pay you back, and even if you work something out where he pays you back a little at a time, it's not worth the hassle. When people get that strung out and become selfish then it's no longer fun to chill with them. I've seen a lot of people turn out that way after getting hooked on dope, and out of all of the people that I grew up with that use dope, there's only 2 of them that I can still trust and hang out with without having to deal with any whiny bullshit.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys. This whole situation has been bothering me for a while now, and then all that stuff went down today. I still feel bad, but he brought it on himself. Even today alls he had to do was have the money ready and have to wait until after 8pm and he couldn't do either of those things! Shit man, I'd never bitch at someone that was going to the city, grabbing bags, grabbing me a rig, and then dropping the bags off at my house. I guess he thinks he's special, but he ain't.


On a more positive note, this is some boss scag baby. I don't know what happened to 2am, but it just up and went. I know I'm real fucked up when I stand up and wobble around like a player in Mortal Kombat that is about to receive a fatality. :D I couldn't read the name of the bags at first. I was like "Fanta's Island?" or is it "Santa's Island?". Turned out to be "Fantasy Island" :)
 
I would have just said if you dont like how im handling this than get off your ass and get it yourself.
 
Ya I mean Tommy is right. You probably never will see that 400 but, if you don't want to just cut him off I would definitely say something. If he is a friend then he might listen. I think junkies are really only good at fooling themselves. I'm sure he's justified owing you somehow and if you aren't up front about it he will continue to just justify it away. I would at least try if for nothing else a little extra drug money for you.
 
yeah so met up with dboy last night and its business as usual we will see how long this lasts. hahaha
 
On a more positive note, this is some boss scag baby. I don't know what happened to 2am, but it just up and went. I know I'm real fucked up when I stand up and wobble around like a player in Mortal Kombat that is about to receive a fatality. :D I couldn't read the name of the bags at first. I was like "Fanta's Island?" or is it "Santa's Island?". Turned out to be "Fantasy Island" :)

It's not everyday you hear someone refer to dope as scag. I reminds me of this story I read about the heroin problem around here, and one of the mothers posted a pic of the last text message her son sent before he OD'd. Actually I just found the pic, so check it out and look at the name.

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As sad as that is, I had to laugh when I heard the other parents asking if the police ever caught "Matt Scag" and how "Matt Scag" is a murderer. Another parent even said that their kid died of an OD too and their dealers name was also Matt, but that it couldn't have been the same kid because his last name was not Scag.
 
^ I've probably only heard dope called scag like 5x in my life, but I definitely knew that some people refer to it as that. I think that maybe the punks used to call it that, or maybe its another region that uses that slang. Anyway, I wouldn't expect a grieving mother to know what it means, so I'm not surprised that her and the other people not in "the game" were just thinking it was the kids last name.

Even though it's not a common slang term for heroin around here i'm surprised the kid had it in his phone like that. That would be like me putting 'Diesel' as the last names of my dope dealers, or people from Chicago having 'Blows' as their dealers last name. I just put their first name or initial in, and sometimes save it as a work number instead of cell if I have someone else with the same name in my phone already.
 
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