Misc 1.4-Butanediol addiction/withdrawals

[fent_dragon777]

1.4-Butanediol addiction/withdrawals
Hello there. I had hooked on 1.4-bd severely. I drank that for 12 days often re-dosing every 1-2-3 hours not even keeping a strict schedule unlike previous times so it went bad. And by bad I mean tremors, confusion,kindling and terrors. By trying to stabilize I realized that my dose is something about 4-4.5 mls of 1.4-bd every 3-4 hours. And even that amount didn't help me to be comfortable I still felt shitty. Situation worsens by the fact that i took massive amounts of memantine while doing butanediol, so I didn't even feel much of the intoxication to be honest. The intake continued from may 6-7th (lol) through may 13 when I realized how fucked am I. So I've tried to taper backing it by phenobarbital (I'm Russian). It helped a bit, I've managed to reduce the dose to 3mls then to 2.5,to stretch the intervals sometimes to 10-14 hrs, was able to sleep without drinking BD, managed my seizures.

Yesterday I've seen something resembling aura in epileptics got scared and did 2mls of bd. Nothing happened, I've managed 11 hours bd-free. But I'm not feeling like myself a bit. Too manic, too exited. I do a lot of stuff and this ain't normal for me. I mean I don't know, the criteria of a psychosis is that you don't understand you're mad or... Maybe I am psychotic but my condition feels like I did a nice dose of amphetamines but the effect isn't forced, it's natural. Nice, euphoric mania. No anxiety but I got in word combats with people and tend to not understand my boundaries.

It's nice to have energy and stuff but I feel it's very bad for me. I'm trying to taper BD 2.5 every 4.5 hrs + phenobarbital, not jumping too fast anymore but still scared of what could go next. Should I get any quetiapine on hands? Going to institutions isn't a way, they would torture me. Please help!

 

[KetWise]

1.4-Butanediol addiction/withdrawals
Hello there. I had hooked on 1.4-bd severely. I drank that for 12 days often re-dosing every 1-2-3 hours not even keeping a strict schedule unlike previous times so it went bad. And by bad I mean tremors, confusion,kindling and terrors. By trying to stabilize I realized that my dose is something about 4-4.5 mls of 1.4-bd every 3-4 hours. And even that amount didn't help me to be comfortable I still felt shitty. Situation worsens by the fact that i took massive amounts of memantine while doing butanediol, so I didn't even feel much of the intoxication to be honest. The intake continued from may 6-7th (lol) through may 13 when I realized how fucked am I. So I've tried to taper backing it by phenobarbital (I'm Russian). It helped a bit, I've managed to reduce the dose to 3mls then to 2.5,to stretch the intervals sometimes to 10-14 hrs, was able to sleep without drinking BD, managed my seizures.

Yesterday I've seen something resembling aura in epileptics got scared and did 2mls of bd. Nothing happened, I've managed 11 hours bd-free. But I'm not feeling like myself a bit. Too manic, too exited. I do a lot of stuff and this ain't normal for me. I mean I don't know, the criteria of a psychosis is that you don't understand you're mad or... Maybe I am psychotic but my condition feels like I did a nice dose of amphetamines but the effect isn't forced, it's natural. Nice, euphoric mania. No anxiety but I got in word combats with people and tend to not understand my boundaries.

It's nice to have energy and stuff but I feel it's very bad for me. I'm trying to taper BD 2.5 every 4.5 hrs + phenobarbital, not jumping too fast anymore but still scared of what could go next. Should I get any quetiapine on hands? Going to institutions isn't a way, they would torture me. Please help!

Hi @fent_dragon777
I can relate about 1,4B use. I was doing 2ml every few hours a week or two and ran out. I got very sick like you mention with severe depression and anxiety and I personally went through it with Benzodiazepines at the time it was Etizolam and Clonazolam, and opiates. But I dont recommend using those, even less mixing with 14B.

The best might be to taper as much as you can then switch to something more sustainable daily than 14B, daily abuse like that can really fuck up your mood and emotions for a while.

I used phenobarbital a couple of times, it is very long lasting, I am not sure it is best while still using 14B every 4.5 hours . Quetiapine might be useful to sleep it might help, it all depends on what you can get too . Mixing 14B with other depressants is dangerous take care

 

[fent_dragon777]

Hi @fent_dragon777
I can relate about 1,4B use. I was doing 2ml every few hours a week or two and ran out. I got very sick like you mention with severe depression and anxiety and I personally went through it with Benzodiazepines at the time it was Etizolam and Clonazolam, and opiates. But I dont recommend using those, even less mixing with 14B.

The best might be to taper as much as you can then switch to something more sustainable daily than 14B, daily abuse like that can really fuck up your mood and emotions for a while.

I used phenobarbital a couple of times, it is very long lasting, I am not sure it is best while still using 14B every 4.5 hours . Quetiapine might be useful to sleep it might help, it all depends on what you can get too . Mixing 14B with other depressants is dangerous take care

Thank you very much. I've consulted with Grok (maybe that's not the wisest decision in my life but still) I'm past active withdrawal phase, reduced my intake to 2.25mls and trying to slowly wean off. Still little hypertermic, little manic, but mostly I'm okay. If I'll survive that shit I'll write a report definitely. Kisses and best wishes, my friend