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Gender Communists at it again. If they had enough power they'd outlaw and prosecute being normal

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Here's the peper the above comment is about:


^ None of the authors have a medical degree

Lmao, c'mon
Social justice activists, scholars, and the field of critical studies have made important strides to highlight how the desire to maximize the “fitness” of offspring, and guard against development of conditions or human characteristics considered “unhealthy” or less than ideal, may reflect troubling eugenicist and biomedical moralist underpinnings in ways that further harm already-socially-marginalized people
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Freeman (2015) argues that contemporary pregnancy, in particular, has become a site of epistemic injustice through processes of medical professionals and technologies assuming power and epistemic authority over pregnancy and pregnant people, often denying or superseding the epistemic privilege, knowledge, and control that a pregnant person has over their own body and embodied pregnancy experience. Similarly, both MacKendrick (2018) and Waggoner (2017) clearly demonstrate how responsibilities for ensuring the health and well-being of embryos, fetuses, children, and families are forms of gendered precautionary labor in which “safety first” approaches result in additional social control over women and their everyday lives, often despite equivocal empirical evidence supporting the benefits of such precautions
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i thought it pertinent to pull this from the conclusion, just for more context:
Through working to consider alternate possibilities for current medical practices around the recommendation to precautionarily pause testosterone during pregnancy, there may be opportunities to develop health care practices for trans people that better meet their mental and physical health care needs using more tailored approaches. Indeed, similar considerations have already been made when determining whether and how to use potentially-teratogenic medications to treat various physical and mental health issues among those who are pregnant (Angelotta & Wisner, 2017; Given et al., 2018). As Timmermans and Almeling note: “The point is not to presume stable and universal health care goals but to document who aims for what kind of outcomes under which circumstances and then to examine what kinds of actions are made possible to reach these goals”
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not gonna sit here and say i know anything about testosterone therapy and what repurcussions it has on a developing baby, nor am i implying that i support forcing a developing fetus to be subjected to hormonal experiments, but they do make the point that we make room for certain drugs if the health of the mother is in question (like psychiatric medications... some might put it bluntly: rather have a medicated mother and baby than a dead mother and baby, right?)

just saying... i think the authors make the point at the end (didn't read the whole thing) that there might be room for considering these things by medical professionals; and they do not seem to be making the case that the fetus' health does or should take the backburner.

Electrum1 said:
If they had enough power they'd outlaw and prosecute being "normal" (quotations added by nepalnt for emphasis on this loaded word)
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huehuehue nice insanely hyperbolic strawman bro, high 6
 
in my opinion, if you had more power, you'd arrest all real scientists and teach belief in science class
 
HumanityIsTheDevil said:
Americans (both conservatives and self-professed commies) have a weird conception of communism.
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pretty sure a centralized oligarchy or autocracy that imprison or execute ppl for being gay or trans runs UTTERLY contrary to the essence of communism, whether countries that do this call themselves 'communist' or not (teehee @ "democratic" north korea and "communist" china)

at the very least, communism is not intrinsically linked with these kinds of cultural genocidal / genocidal genocidal tyrannical programs;

and a central authority, in general is pretty much antithetical to communism as i know it (please correct me if i'm wrong here, i'm not a communist... but please explain it instead of just saying i'm wrong).
 
HumanityIsTheDevil said:
being privately run
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lol minor pedantic elucidation:

partially private, but there are still plenty of state run prisons.

the for- profit imprisoning system is one of the worst ideas we've ever had, imo.

thank goodness they don't arrest ppl for being gay or trans anymore (in the u.s.)... can't imagine being forced to be a slave because i sucked a dick
 
ppl like matt brick- brain walsh that advocate for no sex- ed in schools, and call everyone else "groomers" obviously don't see the irony that they themselves are pushing for (by accident or not) the groomer atmosphere.

sex- ed VERY CLEARLY helps prevent kids from being taken advantage of by predators.

removing sex- ed will only create more child sexual abuse.

a buncha stephen king's carrie's mom style sickos... thank goodness they are in the minority.
 
I agree Matt Walsh is a dumbass.

I think sex education is good, at least the kind I got.

you know, the basics.

now they have books about buying vibrators online, tasting your "vagina slime", and ten year olds giving eachother oral sex.

so I can understand why some parents might be upset
 
I took sex ed as part of Health class, in sixth grade. The teacher for the class also taught gym/P.E. and I’m pretty sure she was a lesbian, thinking back on it…regardless, it was a good class and sixth grade seems appropriate to introduce the topic imo
 
We had sex ed in 5th grade (your 4th grade) in the 80s in the UK. I think we just giggled, tho I do remember boys accusing each other of having a 'period' was a thing for a while...
 
We learned in 7th grade, mostly about periods and how not to get pregnant.
You all get the banana and condom?
 
I don't remember their being anything even that graphic. They start you early here, but they don't go into details. Or at least they didn't in our pre-digital era.
 
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