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⫸Trans and LGBTQIA+ Discussion⫷

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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Drag queens, almost all T's and Q's have super high rates of NPD, BPD, or multiple Cluster B personality types and everything they do is for attention, manipulation, triangulate/gas light, etc.

There are normal everyday drag queens but they are not "activists", don't read to children at schools or have anything to do with children or events for children/teens, do it for fun on weekends or for parties or before going to bars, they find Ru Paul boring, and they don't think they are celebreties or akin to film stars.
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When I was in middle school we'd occasionally have story time in the library but it was people from other cultures like a traditional storyteller from Ghana, the descendent of an escaped slave, a Native American tribal elder, ect; people with something to they who are more than just tik tok or instagram star.

People used to have this attitude "that if you can't accept who I am or what I do then just fuck off let me do my thing now people feel they must force everyone to accept them.
 
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I saw a youtube ad for this film and it interviewed people who said trans people and promoting children and teens and young adults to first identify as trans and then take hormones and have dangerous surgeries is being promoted by super large corporations and various world governments/gov't orgs. There are websites that are huge hubs for trans folx such as reddit and twitter/X and I have read that a lot of the super popular trans groups or "influencers" are really just full of bots or fake accounts. They get super angry at the fact that people do de-transition as best as they can.

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I don't know if this man was or is heterosexual, gay, bisexual, trans, or a drag queen or just a female impersonator. If he wants to convert to Islam this is his choice. I just hope he finds happiness and is content.

I never knew about him until now. I was searching for a video to email my friend.
 
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the problem is that part of this lgbt societies are very involved in politics and blood money.That is main reason why i am worried about this stuff.look at this trans(forgot the name),who is part of directors of territorial deffence force in Ukraine.He is american with big tits and dressed in millitary uniform and before days or two he proclaimed openly killings of russian journalists,which by all means is true crime against all civilized values.This puppet Biden openly flirting with this society and part of this people knowing or not knowing are fully involved in war,crime and genocide.If LGBT society wants to clear their name they must be absolutely out of any political shit.How they achieve the money for their campaigns are their own busyness.....and i saying this for their own good......cause amongst them there is wonderful people.That is the main reason why i am so worried about this stuff...let's stay aside moral/religious component of this.....that is another theme......that is why that they cannot deep penetrate into more religious societies like muslim,jewish or orthodox....just because one big part of them are aggresively against God....even blaspheming....which is moreover one of the naratives of so called "neoliberals"...ok talk about democracy-let everyone peacefully express his own religious believes and sexual orientation.....not good to put more fire in this....just....trying to live for a while in peace.....till the End comes.....i really wish that..........just peace
 
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Nas47 said:
If LGBT society wants to clear their name they must be absolutely out of any political shit.
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you need to accept more nuance into your worldview.

many "lgbt society" members don't subscribe to any particular political ideology.

Sexual orientation is independent of political thought, believe it or not.

if you care about including us , do us the favor of not pre-categorizing our thoughts
 
they may be not subscribe in any particular ideology,but the money that some of that groups achieve are very often connected with parties that are involved in war.Another thing-like a Christian i cannot accept this values and i can say without any doubt ,that more than 70percent of this small country of mine are against this
 
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mal3volent said:
why not? Let's talk about it
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Not in a "We Don't Talk About Bruno" way, I mean in the way that cishet people feel almost like they get to debate on whether our identities are valid or whether our "lifestyles"* are acceptable and what rights we have etc. Not to be all militant, but complete acceptance is the only acceptable thing. I don't even like the term "tolerance". Like, fuck your tolerance, I tolerate YOU. There's nothing to "tolerate". That word implies we're doing something wrong or we, ourselves, who we are is inherently WRONG, but people are willing to play nice and pretend like we're okay. Like "Well I don't like it, but I guess I can put up with it".**

*it's not a fucking lifestyle

**sorry if I'm being aggro again. I'm out of opioids which is pretty much the only time my angry side comes out. I've taken a lot of gabapentin/thorazine/seroquel/trazodone, but....yeah, if I'm being overly harsh or rude to anyone, I do apologise, I don't mean it [that is, I don't mean to be harsh with anyone]
 
mal3volent said:
you need to accept more nuance into your worldview.

many "lgbt society" members don't subscribe to any particular political ideology.

Sexual orientation is independent of political thought, believe it or not.

if you care about including us , do us the favor of not pre-categorizing our thoughts
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Replying to the comment you're replying to as I can't find it.

Basically what Mal said. We are not a political ideology we are fucking human beings and we have nothing to "clear our name" about. We don't owe you *anything*. Never have.
 
Tolerant? If trans are so confident in their identity then why do they need to push politicians to create laws that limit my speech and possibly even jail me like in Brazil for example

Nobody gets to dictate my free speech and anybody who tries will be met with disdain. Call yourself whatever and identify however you want, but don't try and force me to give up free speech to accommodate your beliefs and be forced to validate your chosen identity
 
yes..so called modern democracy-"U can speak whatever u want....but better don't do it"...or "U have free of speaking ....but speaking rightful and correctly"..WTF is that???This shit remind me the well known things of the past of my country,but masked with hypocrisy.....looks like a trap more than something else
 
Nas47 said:
the problem is that part of this lgbt societies are very involved in politics and blood money.That is main reason why i am worried about this stuff.look at this trans(forgot the name),who is part of directors of territorial deffence force in Ukraine.He is american with big tits and dressed in millitary uniform and before days or two he proclaimed openly killings of russian journalists,which by all means is true crime against all civilized values.This puppet Biden openly flirting with this society and part of this people knowing or not knowing are fully involved in war,crime and genocide.If LGBT society wants to clear their name they must be absolutely out of any political shit.How they achieve the money for their campaigns are their own busyness.....and i saying this for their own good......cause amongst them there is wonderful people.That is the main reason why i am so worried about this stuff...let's stay aside moral/religious component of this.....that is another theme......that is why that they cannot deep penetrate into more religious societies like muslim,jewish or orthodox....just because one big part of them are aggresively against God....even blaspheming....which is moreover one of the naratives of so called "neoliberals"...ok talk about democracy-let everyone peacefully express his own religious believes and sexual orientation.....not good to put more fire in this....just....trying to live for a while in peace.....till the End comes.....i really wish that..........just peace
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"very involved in politics and blood money" - I think you're confusing LGBT+ people with Republicans.

Also, there's a list of DOZENS UPON DOZENS UPON DOZENS of republicans who have been found guilty of sexually abusing children. Do you know how many drag queens have? ZERO.
 
Electrum1 said:
Tolerant? If trans are so confident in their identity then why do they need to push politicians to create laws that limit my speech and possibly even jail me like in Brazil for example

Nobody gets to dictate my free speech and anybody who tries will be met with disdain. Call yourself whatever and identify however you want, but don't try and force me to give up free speech to accommodate your beliefs and be forced to validate your chosen identity
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They don't. They want to stop people like you from making laws that discriminate against them.

And why would you even WANT to spew hate speech? Because "public hate speech designed to incited hatred or violence"* is the only type anyone would even want to ban....so let me ask you a very fair question: why are you so full of hatred that you WANT to publically incite hatred again a given marginalised group of people?
That very much sounds like a serious YOU issue, not a trans people issue.

*I'm quoting what is currently banned in the UK and some places in Europe...emphasis on the the "public" and "designed to incite hatred/violence" parts. You can say the most (for example) transphobic shit you like. It's just like if you're in the street with a megaphone trying to rile people up and get them angry and encourage...well you get the point
 
Nas47 said:
yes..so called modern democracy-"U can speak whatever u want....but better don't do it"...or "U have free of speaking ....but speaking rightful and correctly"..WTF is that???This shit remind me the well known things of the past of my country,but masked with hypocrisy.....looks like a trap more than something else
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In America, they pretty much want to create the pronoun police to penalize people for "hate speech" which is what the 1st amendment protects. Why even want that if you're confident in your own identity? There's a lot more going on and
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
They don't. They want to stop people like you from making laws that discriminate against them.

And why would you even WANT to spew hate speech? Because "public hate speech designed to incited hatred of violence"* is the only type anyone would even want to ban....so let me ask you a very fair question: why are you so full of hatred that you WANT to publically incite hatred again a given marginalised group of people?
That very much sounds like a serious YOU issue, not a trans people issue.

*I'm quoting what is currently banned in the UK and some places in Europe...emphasis on the the "public" and "designed to incite hatred/violence" parts. You can say the most (for example) transphobic shit you like. It's just like if you're in the street with a megaphone trying to rile people up and get them angry and encourage...well you get the point
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Inciting violence is already against the law here. I'm talking about "misgendering" people by using a pronoun they don't want to be called
 
Electrum1 said:
In America, they pretty much want to create the pronoun police to penalize people for "hate speech" which is what the 1st amendment protects. Why even want that if you're confident in your own identity? There's a lot more going on and
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The first word of the constitution is literally a pro-noun. Everybody uses them. Also, why exactly do you WANT to deliberately use the wrong pronoun for someone? Like, why? What do you gain from that?
 
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