Like I said, SR is relatively uncharted territory as a comparatively novel compound. It's not like we don't have data though. I found this post on Reddit following a few brief seconds of searching. The case described by the OP in said post is not out of the ordinary either. I have now read perhaps a dozen similar stories; people on maintenance Methadone doses (80mg+) using SR to taper, often with minimal or even no preparation or comfort medications. If any of this that I'm reading is even partially true, we have a revolutionary substance on our hands guys. Ibogaine (Tabernanthe Iboga) was for years implied to be a "magic bullet" for overcoming Opioid dependence quickly, with minimal lasting effects.
For whatever reason, that never caught on. I have heard mixed experiences from people regarding Ibogaine. What I read was intriguing. However, it ultimately was not promising enough to provoke further investigation on my part. Experiences are quite mixed. To me, it sounded like taking an intense psychedelic trip whilst in the most horrible withdrawal of your life. I have had bad trips independent of being heavily sick from Opiates. The whole thing was just too frightening, exotic and actually, not realistically obtainable, so I forgot about it.
@blackmarket91 that's great. If you can make it to 72 hours, you should be golden. If you wanted to make an earlier attempt, say after 48 hours, you can do so with fairly mild consequences for getting it wrong. Like a Great White Shark, make exploratory bites so you don't end up eating a scuba tank and exploding, trust me, it happens every dsay, it's just not widely reported due the Shark/Jewish/Gay media conspiracy, but I digress.
Get to at least 48 and take 0.5mg Buprenorphine at the most. If it is too early, just ride out the mild discomfort and wait a little while longer. The crux of this issue is largely that people are unable to figure for themselves the concept of taking smaller doses during induction. It's no their fault. The medical establishment has absolutely zero practical knowledge in regard to this. Sadly, this problem, precipitated withdrawal, has a solution that, wben you realize how obvious the logic is, you lost another few faith points in your prescribers. I am some guy on the internet. Why the hell am I answering these questions? When you ask yourself that, you realize they either A. Didn't care enough to learn the basics of this drug B. They have an understanding but are not willing to make the extra investment in time, energy and the need for follow-ups.
If an addict or even your run-of-the-mill "Pain Management" patient messes up their treatment in any way, the blame is placed at their feet by default. You took more pills? It's not because of pain, it's because you've developed an addiction, despite my perfect due diligence and care as your physician, furthermore, I am disappointed in you as a human being for abusing my trust, risking my license, you should be genuinely ashamed for yourself... also, I'm immediately withdrawing all of your scripts and sending in a high-dose Ibuprofen fill so it looks like I'm doing something. Ibuprofen is a painkiller. It says so right on the box. If you are taking it and your pain is not being relieved, you are violating the laws of science and/or nature and also seeking more drugs to feed your addiction, which I will write in your file: difficult, drug-seeking, dishonest etc.
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@blackmarket91 there should be no problem with you doing the taper as we have discussed here. Try 48 hours but ideally 72 hours. Do your slow, stepwise induction of Buprenorphine. For the first few days, you may need a little extra help with the transition. I would recommend stopping your induction at 4mg-6mg at the very most and less if you're able.
I know you are trying to spend as little time as possible dependent as to not further fuck your tolerance. For this reason, I think you should immediately start tapering the Buprenorphine once you reach your stable dose. I say, take 4mg Buprenorphine sublingually in 2 divided doses or even 3 if that's what you feel works best, but 2 should be fine, when you wake up and before you go to sleep. I would do this for 4-5 days max. Just make sure you have identified the actual dose of Buprenorphine with which you can work and function on, then begin decreasing.
I would recommend doing a 3-5 day taper. I say, make it linear, with ~1mg dropped per day. Once you get to the very end, I would recommend doing another 3-5 day detox in which you move from 0.5mg-`mg down to 0mg in 0.2mg increments.
You may think this is overkill. Just ask yourself if there is such thing as overkill for a challenge that has bested you your entire life. I've seen a lot of people with good intentions dive into withdrawal protocols that set them up for failure. They go too fast, they are unprepared, they refuse to invest the time necessary to actually succeed. Everyone in this world right now wants their shit at their doorstep immediately. I'm sorry readers, but Methadone withdrawal can last 6 months to a year before heavy, long-term users can honestly, truly claim they don't feel the hooks in them anymore. That is an entire year in which you cannot bend or break, lest you forfeit all of your work. You need a plan.
If you need more specifics regarding the schedule, let me know dude. I can recommend some good supplements and perhaps medications too, though you seem pretty knowledgeable already and I don't want to patronize you.
Given the amazing powers of this SR stuff, I think it would make sense to end this with a short taper using SR as well. You could even consider using a small maintenance dose of SR on a moderate/long-term basis. I understand the goal is to be Opioid free and I respect that. I would advise, once you reach this point, if you feel unable to resist the temptation of using, use the SR and you can potentially have your cake and eat it too.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
