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Relapse is a part of recovery. But this much?

WickedWifey17

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Everyone knows that relapse is a big part of recovery. But is it just me to think that, why tf don't we learn the first time we relapse??!!! We feel bad after we come down, and we stay clean for a while. But before u know it, we're back to our drugs! Fucking up again! A smart person would learn to leave that shit alone, it's just bad news! And to not throw away all the success we've worked so hard for being clean. But even tho we know we're this road leads, we still continue to try and try again...ending in catastrophe. Notes...
 
addiction is a tricky thing. it’s easy to relapse even when you KNOW it’s not gonna go well. it has nothing to do with intelligence. i feel like even if you do learn the first time, the next time you relapse it presents the lesson differently. sure the underlying lesson is the same but the challenge and presentation of it is different each time.

addiction physically changes your brain. while in active addiction we think of all these reasons and justifications to use and that doesn’t go away with sobriety. it’s easy for one little craving to snowball into some justification for using. and a lot of the time it’s not a fully conscious train of thought. addiction conditions your brain to find reasons and ways to use, justifications. it makes your brain see the drug as a need and over time this pattern of thought gets wired in. in sobriety fighting against that wiring, that conditioning is hard as hell. i haven’t touched amphetamines in 7 years and 7 years later here and i can think of all these new reasons to use. virtually nothing about my life is the same as it was 7 years ago. contending with the change and finding new ways to avoid using and stay sober is a big, hard part of recovery.

sure, the underlying lesson of “don’t relapse, relapse bad” is the same. but it’s presented differently. knowing one algebraic formula doesn’t mean every equation that uses it will have the same answer. the challenge of not relapsing gets presented differently. every time one is on the edge of relapse, finding a reason to not do it is hard. it’s not a question of intelligence or moral standing. it’s a matter of retraining and rewiring your brain to not feel like it needs the drug. and that’s not something that happens with just one relapse. that’s not a simple thing to do, rewiring your brain. knowing the lesson and being able to consistently apply it every time are two different things.

getting and staying clean from addiction is a difficult battle that only other addicts can truly understand the struggle of. cause it’s not like most people start using just cause. there’s almost always some degree of benefit one gets from it. pain relief, anxiety relief, escapism, even just fun. getting yourself to consistently deny using, to turn down whatever perceived benefit the drug gives you and have the willpower to abstain is a hard thing to do, even when you KNOW it won’t go well.

i personally like to think of a relapse a little differently than most. if someone has been clean for 6 years and relapses for just one day, i don’t like the idea that you’re suddenly back at day 1. it’s not like using for 1 day after 6 months erases those 6 months of progress. you’ve still made progress and built resources and willpower. unless one fully falls off the wagon for an extended time i don’t like how people commonly reset the timer for one slip up. i feel like that alone can be discouraging, to be “back at square one.” you didn’t lose 6 years of progress and you’ve still been clean for 6 years. just 6 years minus 1 day.

TL;DR- sorry this is so damn long winded. moral of the store is- give yourself some grace. addiction is a feisty, conniving, slimy little fucker. a relapse isn’t a reset of all your progress. each relapse may be the same lesson but it’s phrased differently. even just being clean long enough that using again is considered a relapse (as opposed to just being in active addiction) is something to be proud of. you’re doing great, friend. stay up :)
 
First of all you must the language that is making you feel bad. We all know that the government made drug use a criminal offense from what used to be a health concern that was treated with dignity and respect? Just because the law, society, religion and other groups, organizations etc, are influenced by governmental labeling does not mean you are a criminal. By criminalizing drug use as a means of control by way of fear and shame it is simply not true and you have to believe this in order not to fall victim to this type labeling.
Shame is a learned response, humans are not hardwired to feel shame. Learning shame is not completely bad, it helps us learn boundaries of accepted behaviors, humility, and respect. Shame becomes problematic when we obsessed over negative feelings of rejection and isolation.
Punishment has always been more than a response to wrongdoing. It is also a public message. When a society punishes someone, it announces what it values, what it fears, and what it refuses to tolerate. Public humiliation, exile, corporal punishment, and social rejection all depend on an audience. The shame of a punished person is a lesson to the crowd.

There is a difference between holding someone accountable and shaming. Accountability focuses on action, what was done, who was harmed, and how repair can happen. Shame is about identity, who the person is, how defective they appear, and whether they deserve belonging. Accountability can lead to growth because it leaves room for responsibility and change. Shame often leads to hiding, denial, anger, or despair because it makes the whole self feel condemned.

If shame teaches us to separate from ourselves and others. then nourishment teaches us how to return. To become a source of nourishment means becoming the kind of presence that helps life grow instead of shrink, it means creating enough safety for honesty to exist. it means meeting failure, relapse, regret, and wrongdoing with seriousness, but not with cruelty,
 
First of all you must the language that is making you feel bad. We all know that the government made drug use a criminal offense from what used to be a health concern that was treated with dignity and respect? Just because the law, society, religion and other groups, organizations etc, are influenced by governmental labeling does not mean you are a criminal. By criminalizing drug use as a means of control by way of fear and shame it is simply not true and you have to believe this in order not to fall victim to this type labeling.
Shame is a learned response, humans are not hardwired to feel shame. Learning shame is not completely bad, it helps us learn boundaries of accepted behaviors, humility, and respect. Shame becomes problematic when we obsessed over negative feelings of rejection and isolation.
Punishment has always been more than a response to wrongdoing. It is also a public message. When a society punishes someone, it announces what it values, what it fears, and what it refuses to tolerate. Public humiliation, exile, corporal punishment, and social rejection all depend on an audience. The shame of a punished person is a lesson to the crowd.

There is a difference between holding someone accountable and shaming. Accountability focuses on action, what was done, who was harmed, and how repair can happen. Shame is about identity, who the person is, how defective they appear, and whether they deserve belonging. Accountability can lead to growth because it leaves room for responsibility and change. Shame often leads to hiding, denial, anger, or despair because it makes the whole self feel condemned.

If shame teaches us to separate from ourselves and others. then nourishment teaches us how to return. To become a source of nourishment means becoming the kind of presence that helps life grow instead of shrink, it means creating enough safety for honesty to exist. it means meeting failure, relapse, regret, and wrongdoing with seriousness, but not with cruelty,
brilliantly written
 
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