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Misc What is the ACTUAL most potent drug on the planet? No bullshit like crack or cocaine (even though they are potent).

Didgital said:
could you elaborate on this? I love 3-meo-pcp, but i also was super careful with it.
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It was a case of me being stupid mostly, I had done some lines of 4F-MPH prior which just made me anxious, then I met up with 2 friends and started doing bumps of 3-MeO by dabbing my finger inside the bag.

For some reason the time it took to kick in was very delayed so I ended up taking out a rock of 3-MeO from the bag (maybe slightly bigger than a pea) and split it in half. I proceeded to tilt my head back and dropped each half into each nostril. I estimate that I consumed ~150mg 3-MeO-PCP in total from the bumps and the rock together.

What followed about 15 minutes later as I was waiting on the subway was a near instant feeling comparable to peaking on a double balloon of nitrous and a massive dose of stimulants. It just kept getting stronger and stronger to the point where I started hallucinating my legs floating away from my body above my shoulders and I lost all ability to talk and move my body.

They had to carry me to a friends apartment where I thought I died and was stuck in some sort of limbo, the experience got so intense that I started hallucinating entire realms of insanity beyond DMT or Salvia. I can describe the hallucinations more if you're interested but this post is starting to get really long… 😅
 
TheLightBringer said:
It was a case of me being stupid mostly, I had done some lines of 4F-MPH prior which just made me anxious, then I met up with 2 friends and started doing bumps of 3-MeO by dabbing my finger inside the bag.

For some reason the time it took to kick in was very delayed so I ended up taking out a rock of 3-MeO from the bag (maybe slightly bigger than a pea) and split it in half. I proceeded to tilt my head back and dropped each half into each nostril. I estimate that I consumed ~150mg 3-MeO-PCP in total from the bumps and the rock together.

What followed about 15 minutes later as I was waiting on the subway was a near instant feeling comparable to peaking on a double balloon of nitrous and a massive dose of stimulants. It just kept getting stronger and stronger to the point where I started hallucinating my legs floating away from my body above my shoulders and I lost all ability to talk and move my body.

They had to carry me to a friends apartment where I thought I died and was stuck in some sort of limbo, the experience got so intense that I started hallucinating entire realms of insanity beyond DMT or Salvia. I can describe the hallucinations more if you're interested but this post is starting to get really long… 😅
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Nah its ok. Thats insane dose, im glad youre ok. I never found it to be super visual but my highest dose was maybe 15mg. For me it was always extremely emotional.

I did a few +50mg doses of MXE (very visual imo) and MXIPr+DMT (went into a toroid for 10,000 years).

Ty for sharing
 
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Didgital said:
could you elaborate on this? I love 3-meo-pcp, but i also was super careful with it.
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I had a friend that thought it was a good idea to casually take bumps of 3-meo-pcp off the little bullet vials people usually use for cocaine. I don't know how long he'd been up taking bumps off that vial (it was a massive vial). But he ended up driving over 3 hours disso'd out of his mind to meet some girl he liked. Spent a couple of hours looking for the drugs he dropped in the parking lot. Then he claimed he went out of body and watched his body try to choke the girl to death. It took multiple men to take him down and they claimed he had unhuman like strength. I got the story about a week later first from him and then from someone else that was there.

I love MXE and K but that 3-meo-pcp is some evil shit. The one time I sampled it I knew it wasn't for me.
 
Illyria99 said:
Mallinckrodt makes the BEST generic opiates, hands down.
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Amen to that. The are like the old school "Upjohn's Pharmacy" in the early 1900's, advertised "crush under thumb".... fuck yeah hands down.

I get 210qty Mallinckrodt 30mg a month and Crush and right under the tongue. Snorting is a waste. They are not made to be shot "they are not clear haha"...

My Valium 10mg are the same way, toss in three with a sip of water and they melt in 5 seconds.

My Mallinckrodt Methadone 10mg's mix well with coffee.

Mallinckrodt sells all the compound materials to everyone so they can afford to make their generics strong. Google fools don't know the FDA allows generics to be up to 20% weaker in active ingredient. MY pharmacy will only order Mallinckrodt 1st and KVK-Tech 2nd.
 
Illyria99 said:
Mallinckrodt makes the BEST generic opiates, hands down.
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Since the M30's have no coating they spoil fast opening 210 times a month. I break them down into 30qty bottles and screw tight them.

I started noticing days 24-30 were getting weak. And cracked the code. Pharmacies do not open 100qty 30mg light-proof bottles all day long. They come brittle and make a certain noise on refill days. Keep in the same bottle and they get soft. Also child-proof bottles are shit and are not air tight. Only use the ones with threads. I went to a concert and had them with child-proof side on and it was raining. My shorts got wet. When I got home, no more brittle and I picked them up that day.

I cracked the code. No more Jedi tricks tonight lol...
 
nope nope nope the (was it purple m30s, orange m60s, grey m100's) were good but the best ER brand was shit lol I remember the pill imprint put not the brand the (Morphine) 30's were green all the way through - no coating -- way easier to cook up.

Damn it what was the brand, endo I am gunna say than google -- the hundreds are blue bars with e658 lol
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
Ohhh, then for me probably IV Dilaudid (Hydromorphone)
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Ikr!! They always gave me that when I had kidney stones. Can it even get any better than that? lol I’ve never injected. The strongest I’ve ever done were oxy 80. I always snorted pills. I knew better then to ever inject myself cause I’d be dead. But I’ve had dilaudid IV several times and it’s probably the best opiate high Ive ever had.

But I loved oxy 80’s. They were so beautiful lol we called them green beans
 
IV hydromorphone is about as good as it gets! Out of all of the opiates in the kingdom I would take a half (real) heroin half hydromorphone shot as 'as good as it gets' opiate wise. That is being picky.

I know there isnt a giant reason to IV oxymorphone -- but has anyone had oxymorphone powder (Instant release at least) IV and how did that compare?

Never got my hands on any opana cuz it was price prohibitive compared to smack (back when it was smack) lol
Didgital said:
could you elaborate on this? I love 3-meo-pcp, but i also was super careful with it.
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did either 3-meo-pcp or 4-meo-pcp have a particularly toxic metabolite. I had something #-abc-pcp and when I googled it there were some warnings about such, idk how many versions there are so I could be way off...
 
mindseye888 said:
3-meo-pcp
3-meo-pce
O-pce
Mxe
Meth
Nep
A-pvp
Lsd
1p-lsd
1cp-lsd
Al-lad
2c-e
Etizolam
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eth-lad is the most potent of the lsd analogues most people say.... al-lad is often recommended to people that are new to psychedelics cause it can be a bit less intense. 1p is supposed to be slightly weaker than LSD25. some people claim eth-lad is even stronger than lsd25.


eth-lad has a very pronounced body high. ime. i enjoy it. very stimulating feel.
 
^Potency wise flubromazolam blows etizolam out of the water (Imo euphoria wise too but that is subjective). So does old fashion triazolam.

the 2c-x were actually NOT POTENT ENOUGH for a psych IMO -- I dont wanna taste my psychedelic. the 25x-nbome series makes more sense potency wise?

MDPV puts A-PVP to shame -- from what little I have heard.

yea than it was 3 meo pcp or 4 meo pcp that I got some google warning about. I gotta admit I did not look into it that much as it was an "And ill throw this in" situation --- eh sure ill google it later.

any toxicity in either of those or did I just not try that for no (great) reason
 
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Botulinum toxin is probably the most potent compound on the planet, though not euphoric..
 
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