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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2026 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

Cream Gravy? said:
I haven't been able to get in touch with Xorkoth in those three or so years. I'd like to talk to him just so he can know I'm in so much better a place than the last time we chatted. I think he was worried for me... and for good reason at the time.

Would like to know how life has been treating him.
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I speak to him regularly and can pass along some contact info if you Pm me
 
arrall said:
I speak to him regularly and can pass along some contact info if you Pm me
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I'm happy to hear he's still with us. I don't wish to bother him. But if I ever go through the town he's in again I might try to get in touch.
 
What kinds of language have you guys found useful (though slept on) for articulating altered states of consciousness? Any resources you'd point somebody towards? I'm writing a thing about that right now and it's been whooping my ass given the profoundly subjective nature of the whole thing.
 
Esperighanto said:
What kinds of language have you guys found useful (though slept on) for articulating altered states of consciousness? Any resources you'd point somebody towards? I'm writing a thing about that right now and it's been whooping my ass given the profoundly subjective nature of the whole thing.
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I don't know if i'm understanding your question correctly but I think I really like that question.


gesticulation, movement would be something less obvious, that comes to my mind.
I can remember one moment from last year, where I had once again consumed a really big dose of mushrooms (can't say how big, because it was mixed with peanut butter by a friend). Anyways, once I gobbled it down I can remember having some movement (it was outside at a festival, and it was turning night at the moment).
but I decided to go back to the camper, getting inside the cargo space of it, but leaving the door open and having the light turned on inside.
So people outside at the camping grounds were able to see me sitting there having my psyche blown.
I can vividly remember that my movement was inherently different to my sober state, and people quickly took notice.
Not really because it was out of the ordinary. Everyone did these things there, but I gobbled the mushrooms down so quickly after arriving, that I think I was one of the first people there breaking through already :D.
So some german people, who clearly took a slower approach, near the trailer made a funny comment towards me sitting there "That is what one should videotape actually".
I think they were maybe talking about videotaping at the festival, which not many people do at these events...

Right after that my friend came back, got inside too and closed the door, to cook up some kratom, at the same time mumbling something like "enough..."


Edit: To add to your question further with my example.
My movement sitting there having a big dose for the first time since years, was very little in its amount.
Just slightly turning my head, the intent of my will, quickly bursting out into slight movements, instantly and fluidly reflecting on its path, while executing simultanously.
It was like a slight turning of the head, maybe 1 cm, then slowly raising my hand, quickly putting it down again. Then maybe a short smile appeared, and vanished again.

It was such little movement, but people noticed almost instantly so there was definately something about it, I couldn't speak words at that point. Few words like "Ah, so..." And if i spoke some, they instantly took strong influence, (I think not because of the meaning of the words but more of the timing when i put them out or 'how' I said them) hence why I didn't speak, only sitting moving around a little. Only expressions I was able to put out there. Pupils were probably flying saucers at that point
 
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I got ahold of a PCP analog [3-MeO Phencyclidine] that I took a moderate dose of two nights ago and I have to say it was excellent experience, far more euphoric and visually hallucinogenic and with fewer negative side effects than PCP!
  • 3-MeO Phencyclidine
 
TeeEss86 said:
I got ahold of a PCP analog [3-MeO Phencyclidine] that I took a moderate dose of two nights ago and I have to say it was excellent experience, far more euphoric and visually hallucinogenic and with fewer negative side effects than PCP!
  • 3-MeO Phencyclidine
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Really? we don't have many folks here who have taken both PCP and 3-Meo-PCP... the few who have, have said that 3-meo-pcp is the closest thing to actual PCP.


Also why does Phencylidine translate into PCP.
I see the PC. but not PCP.
 
Didgital said:
Really? we don't have many folks here who have taken both PCP and 3-Meo-PCP... the few who have, have said that 3-meo-pcp is the closest thing to actual PCP.


Also why does Phencylidine translate into PCP.
I see the PC. but not PCP.
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Chemical Identity Breakdown
  • Systematic Name (IUPAC): \(1-(1\text{-Phenylcyclohexyl)piperidine}\)
  • Molecular Formula: \(C_{17}H_{25}N\
The final P in PCP is due to a central piperidine ring attached to a 1-phenylcyclohexyl group.
 
TeeEss86 said:
Chemical Identity Breakdown
  • Systematic Name (IUPAC): \(1-(1\text{-Phenylcyclohexyl)piperidine}\)
  • Molecular Formula: \(C_{17}H_{25}N\
The final P in PCP is due to a central piperidine ring attached to a 1-phenylcyclohexyl group.
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i figured it was a nomenclature nuance, but it's not obvious from PhenCylidine

PhencyCylcoheyxylPiperidine makes sense.
 
TeeEss86 said:
no, it is not obvious at all. I agree with you 100% there!
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and yes, the feeling is very much like actual PCP. in my experience, There were far less of the negative side effects that can be common in PCP was the really great thing.
 
TeeEss86 said:
and yes, the feeling is very much like actual PCP. in my experience, There were far less of the negative side effects that can be common in PCP was the really great thing.
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yo im a fan of 3-meo-pcp..

it had manic edges and lasted a long time but was less discombobulating than most other dissos I've tried. It wasn't very visual but thats fine. I also never took it high.

My best moment with it was me and a gf that were on and off trying to figure out what we wanted to do. We did a few 5mg bumps and held each other for hours, and within the experience itself, we let each other go.. (It coulda gone so many other ways, me and her were always volatile).
Was very sad but serene.

Most of my 3-meo-pcp experiences were more serene like than manic like but i had a few that got close.
 
Didgital said:
yo im a fan of 3-meo-pcp..

it had manic edges and lasted a long time but was less discombobulating than most other dissos I've tried. It wasn't very visual but thats fine. I also never took it high.

My best moment with it was me and a gf that were on and off trying to figure out what we wanted to do. We did a few 5mg bumps and held each other for hours, and within the experience itself, we let each other go.. (It coulda gone so many other ways, me and her were always volatile).
Was very sad but serene.

Most of my 3-meo-pcp experiences were more serene like than manic like but i had a few that got close.
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mine was pretty intense, but I also used the IV route administration
 
TeeEss86 said:
mine was pretty intense, but I also used the IV route administration
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I can't imagine...

Had a friend who went from a functional person to a completely infunctional person w IV MXE use...

He was a heroin IV user before that, but IV MXE completely destroyed his ability to function in any normal societal sense.

Good dude, but kept leaving needles around...

I always liked and will like 3-meo-pcp. I would even try PCP after experiencing it.
 
TeeEss86 said:
I got ahold of a PCP analog [3-MeO Phencyclidine] that I took a moderate dose of two nights ago and I have to say it was excellent experience, far more euphoric and visually hallucinogenic and with fewer negative side effects than PCP!
  • 3-MeO Phencyclidine
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I'm assuming you're in Europe, yeah? That's the only place I've known of 3-MeO-PCP to exist in the past 1-2 years. 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most positively impactful transformative compounds I've ever been lucky enough to come into contact with.
 
Boy I’d like to take some dissos again. Don’t have much stocked up, don’t want to touch the MXE till a special day. Only have 100mg 3-meo-pcp to trial, which won’t last long.

Hmmm…

I am finally going to unbox my safe full of drugs that has been in storage for about five years this weekend or the next, and I have twelve days off work in July where I can take some stuff that would normally be tested for at work. I’m excited to experiment again in my new country home and I don’t even know where to start :)
 
Esperighanto said:
I'm assuming you're in Europe, yeah? That's the only place I've known of 3-MeO-PCP to exist in the past 1-2 years. 3-MeO-PCP is one of the most positively impactful transformative compounds I've ever been lucky enough to come into contact with.
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I am in the US, but it was sourced through a European contact.
 
Does anyone here have any hunches or (preferably) meaningful sources surrounding any orphan receptors which possibly have relevance within the scope of serotonergic psychedelia? It seems like TrkB and NF-kB are possibly downstream upmodulated by most of these, though some things like 25C-NBOH fuck that idea up to some degree. It also seems like cannabis activity may upmodulate something upstream from 5HT2a activation, which is where I began learning that GPR55, GPR18 and GPR119 seem to be receptors that may be better referred to as CB3, CB4 and CB5 in no particular order. At least one of these seems to upregulate the density of 5HT2a subreceptors, first got down this rabbithole researching the cannabinoid O-1602, https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ease-of-the-5-HT-transmitter-A_fig1_380415506 .

It makes me wonder to what degree there are orphan receptors that are implicated in this shit where we may not have yet uncovered the ligands to really whip them up into action. Maybe it's a 3-phenylpiperidine or a whacked out partial ergoline like DEMPDHPCA, the much more reasonably reduced "WXVL_BT0793LQ2118", "Z3517967757", or some other fucking nominative abomination. AlphaFold really bungled the old procedural generation of names to not flunk passing Grice's maxims imo, but that's not really a meaningful issue. 4-Allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog is also a kappa agonist that really excites me because it's not a huge molecule and it exhibits exceptional selectivity for kappa over delta/mu action. People can shit on big pharma research all they want, but they're doing a lot of heavy lifting for the future clandestine chemists to work off of.

The recent research by Qin W, Zhang B, Wang Q et al (Nov '25) surrounding new aporphine derivatives is also interesting, finding some that are meaningfully effective as 5HT2a PAMs makes me wonder about my old experiences coadministering Banisteriopsis caapi and Nymphaea caerulea being so blatantly psychedelic, maybe something about one of these findings relates to the other, I'm not sure but the hunch is growing stronger. hunchier, perhaps.
 
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