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Phenethylamines 2c-b - can I get a hell yeah?

I'm just starting to play with it myself, seems to hold some good potential but I've not yet cracked the right dose for me.

Had a decent dose today which I boofed and gave me some nice visuals, but it also gave me nausea (was aware it could when swallowed but boofed? had no idea), looking forward to doing some more in a week or so, think I'll go back to taking it on an empty stomach instead to see if that's better.

Why are you falling in love with it? what's your experience been like with it?
 
Not so psychedelic but the bodyhigh is gorgeous, the moodlift is lovely and it's a lot shorter acting so you're up and down in 4 hours. Zero nausea, zero hangover. Did you get nausea from it? Never even felt a trace of nausea up to 80mg.

And the afterglow is the best of any drug I've ever taken.

Dunno where all that bullshit about "Its a really steep dose curve" - what nonsense. I didn't notice any change in the dose-response curve in taking one pill to taking 4 pills. Just seems like the same experience to me.
 
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i am very sensitive to stimulants so i found that curve impressive. and i thought it was as visual as lsd.
 
Did you get nausea from it? Never even felt a trace of nausea up to 80mg.
was fine taking it on an empty stomach, not sure if nausea when boofed on a full stomach is a thing that triggers nausea or if coincidence, will try it on an empty stomach again next time.

and i thought it was as visual as lsd.
pretty mild visuals for me compared to LSD, and the headspace is much easier to deal with
 
its getting really popular on the black market, which is great tbh, of what i hear its basically what everyone who just wants to have a fun time wanted acid to be
 
It's the only psychedelic where I expressly don't feel any nausea - I can eat a slap up meal, take 2 tablets of 2cb and start tripping without even a trace of nausea.

It's a very mild psychedelic - but then again I always found mescaline to be a lot less psychedelic than acid and mushrooms - but the overall positive mood effect and sheer fun of walking in nature on it. Beautiful stuff.
 
I find the duration of effect very good as well, planning on taking it more frequently
 
For those who feel 2cb doesnt deliver a psychedelic head space, a very clear headed, "sober" experience, can this be remedied by increasing dosage?

I dont have 2cb, but have always been fascinated by it. Seems the almost perfect drug.
 
My fiance and I would pour a gram out on a glass butter dish on the living room coffee table (the dedicated insufflation dish) and just sniff our way through this small mountain numerous times a day for 6-8 week periods, dosing daily. 2C-B is a hell of a drug, and its administration on a daily basis (whether insufflating large amounts, or eating small amounts, any way you go) can be a fascinating therapeutic tool assuming you're regularly journaling, meditating, and integrating the experience. I often refer to it as a shallow "bimbodelic", but the more that I've thought about it, I think it just has a completely different mode of therapeutic benefit when compared to other psychs, and I suspect that I've been trying to put a square peg in a round hole by trying to find a way to fit 2C-B into the more traditional therapeutic models of other psychedelics.
 
My fiance and I would pour a gram out on a glass butter dish on the living room coffee table (the dedicated insufflation dish) and just sniff our way through this small mountain numerous times a day for 6-8 week periods, dosing daily. 2C-B is a hell of a drug, and its administration on a daily basis (whether insufflating large amounts, or eating small amounts, any way you go) can be a fascinating therapeutic tool assuming you're regularly journaling, meditating, and integrating the experience. I often refer to it as a shallow "bimbodelic", but the more that I've thought about it, I think it just has a completely different mode of therapeutic benefit when compared to other psychs, and I suspect that I've been trying to put a square peg in a round hole by trying to find a way to fit 2C-B into the more traditional therapeutic models of other psychedelics.
would love to hear more about your experience taking it so frequently.

I've just started to use it and originally planned to try it as a frequent micro dose, though I'm enjoying it at larger doses quite a lot.

did you have any negatives from the experience? any risks, dangers? side effects? things to watch out for?

I'd read that snorting it was meant to be pretty harsh on the old nose!
 
I think taking 2C-B so frequently is not a good idea. There are a handful of (anecdotal) reports of young people running into cardiac issues after frequent longterm use and the pharmacology of 2C-B certainly implicates it as a risk factor. So I think from a harm reduction standpoint I do not think it is advisable. I also think I'm seeing some sort of trend towards higher doses becoming more prevalent, but I may be biased. I think it is only a matter of time before someone susceptible pushes it a tad too far, sadly. Personally I did not see much value in the higher doses (say 40 mg oral or 25 mg rectal), but I've only tried it a handful of times. For me a solid 24 mg dose orally gives all I need, but I often take only around 20 mg and it is fully developed with all that I could ask for at this dosage.

To me the therapeutic value of 2C-B is mainly that it serves as some sort of refuge from the stressors of life, forcing a change in perception enhancing the look at what's good. It is very powerful at that and even in sober reality I can think back to 2C-B and whenever I'm low I'm able to remember the great times I had on 2C-B. It's like "hey friend, life isn't so serious, don't beat yourself up" and brings a smile. Yet it is not an artificial escape and to me, entirely non-addictive and self-regulating. I find it hard to overuse, but I've certainly noticed a tendency in some people to be a bit too légère with it. A mountain of 2C-B to snort from every day sitting on a table readily available is pretty high in my personal list of "things not to do". But that's just my opinion and no offence meant (I think you wouldn't take it as offensive anyways, Esperighanto).

I would like to hear your opinion though on why you think such frequent dosing offers advantages in comparison to regular trips (say every 2 weeks or every month). I've tried tripping multiple days in a week with 2C-B, or even going for another round of 2C-B (never really redosing, but going for a separate trip after the first ended), and while there is not necessarily tolerance going on, there is some kind of blunting. It may have to do with being exhausted from the previous trip or from having a bad conscience of tripping too frequently. Psychedelics are more anti-drug (even to themselves) for me than the D.E.A. could ever be 😜
 
I've been pondering microdosing psychedelics for a while and was considering if 2-CB could be a candidate, this thread's prompted me to finally do a bit of research.

general forum themes seem to call out that its steep response curve makes it hard to consistently microdose so you're either too low or too high (esp. when you consider tolerance builds), there's negative body load issues that offset the upside of the microdose - better dose bigger less frequently.

Think I'll save mine for treats and look at Psilocybin microdosing instead.

AI summary:-

Why 2‑CB microdosing is riskier than LSD/psilocybin microdosing

1. Steep dose–response curve

2‑CB has a narrow threshold window.A tiny difference can shift from “barely noticeable” to “strongly psychoactive.”

2. Body load at low doses

Even sub‑perceptual doses can cause:

  • GI discomfort
  • Muscle tension
  • Temperature dysregulation

3. Limited long‑term safety data

Repeated low‑dose phenethylamine exposure has not been studied.

4. Adulteration risk

2‑CB is frequently misrepresented or contaminated in illicit markets.
 
Had to look up 2cb on tor. Came up with chem companies selling not for human consumption chemical varieties. How safe is it to buy from these sites?
In this day and age reliable vendors are a thing of the past; all the good ones either got busted or retired. Allot of changes came to the drug laws in the Netherlands. I wouldn't trust any of the connects these days.
 
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