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[dti]

The so-called ‘War on Drugs’ or ‘drug policy’ is not related in any way to preventing or reducing substance-related harm. This much is obvious. If it was about drug-related harm, the suppliers and users of alcohol, tobacco and caffeine would be subject to the same legal sanctions as are the suppliers and users of other drugs. The phenomenon is solely an economic construct. Apart from the astonishingly lucrative black market in illicit substances, the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ allows for the distribution of vast amounts of public money. This being the case, one would assume that the people behind forums such as this would express their outrage in an open and honest manner given their stated apparent concern about people’s welfare. Let this be an open invitation to such people to do just that: acknowledge the true nature of 'drug policy' and express their outrage and horror about the situation.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

There's plenty of expressions of disgust and outrage regarding drug policy / the war on drugs on this forum. Plenty

It's not just an economic construct either, although it is partly. There are many other issues at play - social control, political, racial, ideological, etc

 

[M!$TER-ED]

It's good to acknowledge history and injustice, however, regarding drugs and drug policy like @ageingpartyfiend reported, there are many factors surrounding the use drugs that are not health related at all. In order to convince society to go along with drug prohibition the government flooded the media drugs were harmful, caused schizophrenia, made people crazy, and unproductive. Drug users are depicted as leeches to society, costing tax payers millions of dollars, responsible for criminal activities, junkies selling the bodies to feed their addiction, breaking up families, the list goes on.

Ironically, if the government had taken time to research these drugs without completely shutting them down by way of prohibition, the criminal element would not exist the way it was and is today. In other words, all those things the government reported drugs were responsible as causes to the decline of society, would not exist the way we know it today. Drugs did not cause these problem, the government did.

 

[dti]

There's plenty of expressions of disgust and outrage regarding drug policy / the war on drugs on this forum. Plenty

It's not just an economic construct either, although it is partly. There are many other issues at play - social control, political, racial, ideological, etc

Thanks for your response but you have apparently misunderstood the post. The invitation was not related to your reader’s feelings rather the people behind the scenes particularly the executive director. We both know that as discussed, the so-called ‘WoDs’ or ‘drug policy’ has nothing to do with substance-related harm. It is predominately an economic construct based on the creation and subsequent oppression of a minority (those who supply and use drugs other than alcohol, tobacco and caffeine).

Surely, given the gravity of the situation, an honest and frank admission of the true nature of the phenomenon by the people behind this forum would be a minor but extremely important undertaking? I wait eagerly for an honest and candid statement from your executive director confirming that the so-called 'War on Drugs' is not what it is portrayed to be.

 

[dti]

The management team of this forum, despite an invitation, has failed to acknowledge that the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ is a deception, a con-job and a massive fraud that actually constitutes a worldwide economic system based on intentionally-created crime and a gross human-rights abuse. This deafening silence suggests one unfortunate circumstance: that this forum is actively complicit in the aforementioned atrocity via the act of facilitating misinformation. The perpetuation and reinforcing of the fallacy that the purpose of the phenomenon is the prevention and reduction of substance-related harm is an obviously misleading narrative. Please be reminded that the oppression meted out under the banner of the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ takes the form of imprisonment, execution and many other forms of brutality. Drug Truth International invites those who assume that this forum exists to support people who use various substances to reassess this belief.

 

[MushroomRyder25]

The management team of this forum, despite an invitation, has failed to acknowledge that the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ is a deception, a con-job and a massive fraud that actually constitutes a worldwide economic system based on intentionally-created crime and a gross human-rights abuse. This deafening silence suggests one unfortunate circumstance: that this forum is actively complicit in the aforementioned atrocity via the act of facilitating misinformation. The perpetuation and reinforcing of the fallacy that the purpose of the phenomenon is the prevention and reduction of substance-related harm is an obviously misleading narrative. Please be reminded that the oppression meted out under the banner of the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ takes the form of imprisonment, execution and many other forms of brutality. Drug Truth International invites those who assume that this forum exists to support people who use various substances to reassess this belief.

Stayed a daily reader here but haven't posted in almost eight years....needed to respond to this:

I have no idea where this comes from. Bluelight, in my experience, has always been a community focused on informing people and more than anything harm reduction.
DiTM (God how I miss the life this forum used to have) is the forum where most discussions on the topics you're addressing happen. Granted this new DiTM is not nearly as popular as it used to be that doesn't change the focus (or what I've always taken to be the focus) of Bluelight as a whole.

You make some valid points although economic reasons definitely aren't the sole cause of the WoD.
I mean it would be cool, inspiring really, to rally a bunch of people in support of drug policy reform but that's a long ways away and I feel requires other societal changes first before the majority would even entertain the idea.

Point being - Bluelight is a solid resource for those interested in discussion regarding psychoactive substances, drug policy, and harm reduction. This is just my opinion but I don't agree with your sentiment about Bluelight at all and needed to dust off my old account (I'm 39 now...not 25 lol) to post this.

 

[Phobos]

The management team of this forum, despite an invitation, has failed to acknowledge that the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ is a deception, a con-job and a massive fraud that actually constitutes a worldwide economic system based on intentionally-created crime and a gross human-rights abuse. This deafening silence suggests one unfortunate circumstance: that this forum is actively complicit in the aforementioned atrocity via the act of facilitating misinformation. The perpetuation and reinforcing of the fallacy that the purpose of the phenomenon is the prevention and reduction of substance-related harm is an obviously misleading narrative. Please be reminded that the oppression meted out under the banner of the so-called ‘War on Drugs’ takes the form of imprisonment, execution and many other forms of brutality. Drug Truth International invites those who assume that this forum exists to support people who use various substances to reassess this belief.

I'm afraid it's very likely that "the management team of this forum" hasn't even noticed your thread yet.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Any one noticing a shit ton of 'articles' coming out about weed, psychedelics, kratom & opioids in general?
All negative. Mostly from the US & Australia. Claiming there's no evidence now for cannabis helping depression or mental health.
And that psychedelics are only as good as regular SSRIs for depression.
And that kratom is the 'new opioid epidemic" and all these states are looking to ban kratom & 7-oh now (which is laughable, such a weak opioid IMO, even the extracts, not to mention expensive).

I'm seeing articles from CNN, ABC, Fox, "Science" pages all making these claims as if they've been given orders to start saying all this negative shit about all the drugs that were making head way in society. I've been seeing it non stop for the past week or so.


People have to keep fighting back against the drug war. Especially in terms of pain & depression relief. Because once they take away all the access to opioids, good pain meds will be something reserved only for the rich.


As for BL itself, I've met some wonderful people here & found good friends. And I think the concept of this site overall is great. But I have to occasionally take breaks cause this site can be full of people with huge egos who wanna argue over nothing or bug the shit out of you & start shit, etc..
But overall, I think there's some decent people here.

 

[Flynnal]

Mostly from the US & Australia.

Which are both run by a bunch of fucking puritanical lunatics.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Any one noticing a shit ton of 'articles' coming out about weed, psychedelics, kratom & opioids in general?
All negative. Mostly from the US & Australia. Claiming there's no evidence now for cannabis helping depression or mental health.
And that psychedelics are only as good as regular SSRIs for depression.
And that kratom is the 'new opioid epidemic" and all these states are looking to ban kratom & 7-oh now (which is laughable, such a weak opioid IMO, even the extracts, not to mention expensive).

I'm seeing articles from CNN, ABC, Fox, "Science" pages all making these claims as if they've been given orders to start saying all this negative shit about all the drugs that were making head way in society. I've been seeing it non stop for the past week or so.


People have to keep fighting back against the drug war. Especially in terms of pain & depression relief. Because once they take away all the access to opioids, good pain meds will be something reserved only for the rich.


As for BL itself, I've met some wonderful people here & found good friends. And I think the concept of this site overall is great. But I have to occasionally take breaks cause this site can be full of people with huge egos who wanna argue over nothing or bug the shit out of you & start shit, etc..
But overall, I think there's some decent people here.

Yes -- are we still waiting on the supreme court ruling in the hemani v usa case? I noticed alot of BS articles popping up around that

20% of people believe cannabis can lead to schizophrenia --- that is a weird stat, who cares what ppl believe to be true --- wanna go with what IS TRUE instead?

 

[Flynnal]

Most of this anti-drug nonsense is written by people with withered and nonfunctional brains and genitals. They derive their pleasure from causing others distress and from taking things away from people, such as drugs that have helped these people. Because they never had any pleasure, they were raised by puritans, and they ARE puritans, they want everyone else to go without pleasure and enjoyment. What dollar value do you put on a lifetime of pleasure? I cannot put any value on that because it's worth more than all the trillions of dollars circulating on the planet.

How much does a lifetime of suffering cost? Well, it can cost more than money. It can cost relationships. It can even lead to brutal assaults, murders, and other crimes related to anger.

What are these lunatics trying to prove? That they are in control and enjoy bullying people who need help the most? Seems like that ticks the box.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I never got any notifications that anyone replied to me on this thread. BL's been doing that a lot lately & I don't know why. It's like it's selective in what notifications it wants to send me. Which then makes me look like I'm ignoring or not acknowledging people who respond to me, but in reality, I just never got a notification.


Makes me wonder how many other notifications I missed & who I might've offended or ticked off because they took it personally.

As for the drug war stuff... Some states have or are trying to make 7-oh a "schedule I" substance. Lol 7-oh barely feels like much to me.
The world just gets dumber & dumber.

I thought of a good analogy/example of hypocrisy the other day; Imagine you get hit by a drunk driver & it lands you in the hospital & you end up in severe pain the rest of your life. And the doctors/DEA tell you "oh we can't prescribe you pain meds cause they're addictive". And people don't see the irony in a situation like that? It's fine to be a drunk in our society, but wanting to be a productive member of society by not being in pain means you're a horrible junkie piece of shit who needs help. It's so fucking pathetic.

Fuck America. And just people in general. Even people on my side of the aisle can be assholes lately. People who once claimed to be my friend or people who are my family or long time friends just absolutely taking advantage of me & having no remorse or care about it at all. I can't wait to be dead. Hopefully I won't need pain & depression relief in the next life.

I feel extremely dead inside & numb & apathetic in a horrible way. Not only is society dumb as fuck, but even the people who are suppose to be there for me are just users.

Maybe I need Buddhism or something? I dunno. How do you reconcile that the world is evil & actively plots against you by making the very things that help you, illegal? And that all the people who look me in the face & claim to be my friend, family, whatever... Can take advantage of me, stab me in the back, literally every single person (just about). Tired of this realm of existence. I feel like my soul belongs somewhere else or something. Cause I just don't understand how so many people can be so dumb (society, the drug war, hypocrisy, etc..) & also be so damn fake (friends, family, people, whatever...).

My life is about 98% solitude at this point. I like it really, but I know that humans are social creatures & it's not good to not socialize. But when everything else doesn't matter, who cares about decaying social skills right? Pfft.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

My opinion like the op's opinion is bullshit. I stand by my statement. I checked out the website you mentioned, drug truth international. I assume you did your own research to back up your statements? From what I read on the site you mentioned you copied word for word from parts of the website. The information you submitted may or may not be true, even though the website may have convinced you to post on BL what evidence have you uncovered to make certain the information on drug truth international was true? My guess you have nothing back up your statements other than what you read on the website.

 

[Ki3ly]

<< Hopefully I won't need pain & depression relief in the next life. >>
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<<<< Maybe I need Buddhism or something? I dunno. How do you reconcile that the world is evil & actively plots against you by making the very things that help you, illegal? >

Tell me about it. But at least I have weed though.

I'm sorry you are Sad. I'm Sad too.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Thinking about OP's accusation and motive to discredit BL management. Didn't understand at first but maybe there is more meets the eye here. What if BL along with its multiple members around the world were actually making a positive impact in people's lives? What if the powers that be do not want change because chaos is easier to manage and control with unjust laws and the consequences of disobeying these laws designed to protect health and welfare of society. Of course the irony of these laws have nothing to with the health and welfare of society. If we as society were to realize drug users are people like everyone else, instead of as what has been implied by our government, there may be hope for humanity yet.

When we stop letting organizations think and decide for us as individuals, we stop being puppets and objects of their control. Far too long we've accepted and believed whatever was given to us on basis of merit. This type of submission has got to stop, all I am saying is use your brain, question everything. You have a voice and a brain, not doing anything at all is still a decision you must live with.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Tell me about it. But at least I have weed though.

I'm sorry you are Sad. I'm Sad too.

How are you feeling now?

I'm a little better. Not much.
Had gout in my left wrist this week. Was incredibly painful, but it's starting to ease up thankfully.

I hope things are a little brighter for you this weekend!

 

[CalicoCatLover]

My experience with rehab was blackmail and evil

 

[Ki3ly]

How are you feeling now?

I'm a little better. Not much.
Had gout in my left wrist this week. Was incredibly painful, but it's starting to ease up thankfully.

I hope things are a little brighter for you this weekend!

Thank you. You are so Kind always.

I just can't right now with it.

If I had to sell my ass in an alley for an unholy Norco it wouldn't even work.

Hopefully I can get some morphine then. Because I know they give that stuff out.

It's liquid in a bottle with a plunger that measures out the ml's or dose whatever.

I still think Norco works better for me than Morphine. But I probably wasn't used to the morphine yet.

Sori I don't want to trigger or anything.


Hope you feel better as well. Yes.


That's so warm and comfortable and really helps so much though.

 

[Ki3ly]

Probably because the morphine helps but the pain really outweighs it if it's bad enough.

Believe me I know it really helps. The pain gets so intense it barely hits it but

oh it helps so much. I do know. Understand. Unless you go through it I guess......

Sure hope that you get Better. Right.

I guess pray. meditate. Yeah and all.

How are you feeling now?

At least gout passed in a few days. But still.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I still think Norco works better for me than Morphine. But I probably wasn't used to the morphine yet.

Sori I don't want to trigger or anything.

No worries!
I'm always thinking about opioids, regardless of anyone else. lol

I've never actually had isolated morphine before. I wish I could try it. I've had poppyseed tea & heroin, so that's about as close as I've come to morphine-anything. But if morphine is similar to heroin at all, I'd probably love it.

I've had a hard time getting into Norco (hydrocodone). I use to hate it, but I think I like it now. I just require insane doses for some reason.
I had some recently & was easily able to put down 120-130mg of it in one single day. I'm guessing buprenorphine keeps my tolerance really damn high.

I wish I could help you out! Hit me up any time if you need some one to talk to though! I totally get it. I have both pain & an "addict" (god I hate that word & all of it's connotations). But the drug war disgusts me. It's leaving so many people in pain & living terrible lives.

I keep seeing so much anti-opioid propaganda on Facebook too. Like this one page keeps posting that "fentanyl kills every 5 minutes".
So I did the math & that'd be like 100,000+ people a year. When in the US, only roughly 70,000-100,000 people a year die from ALL OPIOIDS COMBINED. So they're clearly lying about that "every 5 minutes" shit. Not to mention even if it were true, that's still a lot less than the amount of people killed by alcohol in the US every year. lol But nobody's screaming "alcohol epidemic". It's utterly hypocritical.

Gout has mostly healed, thankfully. Still have some stiffness in that hand though, but I'm not too worried about it

Now I just gotta deal with the anxiety of worrying about appts I have next week. lol Always gotta worry for a week ahead of time for whatever reason. Guess having an anxiety problem will do that to you though. lol

Thank you. You are so Kind always.

I just can't right now with it.

Stay strong my friend. At the very least, we all got each other on here to relate to & share our struggles with. I've met some amazing people thanks to BL!