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Captain.Heroin said:
I used to cringe when I was a child and my parents would play oldies. Fucking just as awful as watching a Disney movie, or sobriety. :!
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hey man-don't knock disney...some of the really OLD versions of cartoons are filled w/ subliminal messages-naked women-jessica rabbit flashes her snatch-so do the hookers in beauty and the beast. in the mermaid when they are getting married the preacher has a hard on right before he begins-then it is gone. there are racial parts to fantasia that shocked me...of course all this has been remastered but it's wicked. disney was kind of a sick fuck and a 33rd degree mason-now i am not all conspiracy theory but the evidence on this turd kind of leads me to believe he was in fact a member of a fucked up sect.


if anyone want's to see these things i have listed above-holla and i'l post some NSFW vids....it's crazy shit. for real.
 
I really like Cash.

as far as old country music, though, Hank Williams Sr. for the win.



Hey cap'n - What is shooting suboxone like? Is there a noticeable and stronger effect, or is it just about the same but with a higher BA? I got a pack of 90 new needles in and I'd like to use one.

Might have to wait for my O-desmethyltramadol (I actually found some!!!), I got 3grams, so when it gets here, I should be good to go for a while. I guess I'm one of those crazy people who likes the tramadol high.
 
muvolution said:
Hey cap'n - What is shooting suboxone like? Is there a noticeable and stronger effect, or is it just about the same but with a higher BA? I got a pack of 90 new needles in and I'd like to use one.

Might have to wait for my O-desmethyltramadol (I actually found some!!!), I got 3grams, so when it gets here, I should be good to go for a while. I guess I'm one of those crazy people who likes the tramadol high.
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IV buprenorphine is a very interesting drug experience. First and foremost I think it's important to point out that it isn't going to be like IVing heroin, dilaudid, or whatever other full agonist you are used to. It is quite different.

The buzz/"rush" type effect from IV buprenorphine is not going to be flooring, overwhelming, etc. - as buprenorphine is only a partial agonist. Additionally, it takes a bit longer for buprenorphine to cause a high when IV'd. Heroin or hydromorphone kick in much quicker.

The effects are going to be somewhat limited due to your opiate sensitivity/tolerance, as well as individual differences (some people never get a good feeling from IV buprenorphine, others do, etc.).

When I first started IVing buprenorphine, it was primarily to lower intake to conserve the medicine as well as to avoid vomiting from sublingual use (yeah I used to vomit a lot from using it as directed).

Over the course of about a year - I tapered down on my dosage gradually, and eventually IV buprenorphine gained euphoria that I wasn't getting the first few trials I had of it.

It's hard to know if you're going to like it where you are now. I wouldn't recommend using IV buprenorphine after recently coming off of a long stint of full agonist usage, as you may not get full effects - and the duration is most certainly shorter than sublingual usage.

However I think that there is some merit to using buprenorphine IV'd. Of course, use a micron filter - it is necessary.

Just to display some of the variety of responses IV buprenorphine can have, I have heard of people on Bluelight who described using a whole range of dosages of it (I'll get to the dosing part in a minute) - without feeling anything good from it. However, on the other hand, I have personally witnessed someone enjoy IV buprenorphine so much that it was like an addictive drive to keep using it, like someone gets from crack or heroin.

Not many people will like it "that much" so to speak. For this person it was the first drug they tried IVing so that may have something to do with it. Nonetheless, I just think there is a large difference between people and this drug with the IV route.

For dosing; I strongly recommend 0.2mg IV per shot maximum. Anything above this is just not worth it. This is the most I was using in excruciating pain (when I broke both bones in my one arm, very painful, worse than breaking a bone as a very young child).

If you start at 0.2mg IV'd to give yourself some sort of feel for the effects, I would try tapering down from there to continue to see what the effects are like.

At first I started on too large of a dosage - then when I realized this I started tapering and I instantly cut my dosage in half, then again later on, and this was much better. By the time I got down to 0.2mg per shot, I was noticing more euphoria than a larger dosage. This is because with too much buprenorphine, it will take up all your mu-opioid receptors, and norbuprenorphine (the full agonist metabolite) won't bind to the receptors.

Right now I am using about 0.1 to 0.15 milligrams per shot, which is 100 to 150 mcg per shot. I have been as low as 40 mcg per shot before (I haven't gotten back down there yet as I was in excruciating pain for months :|).

A lot of people have mixed opinions on IV buprenorphine. However, I think it's something worth trying if you are already IVing full agonist opiates. Over time (the course of 2-3 years) I have grown accustomed to IVing buprenorphine. There is essentially no withdrawal/comedown by comparison to full agonist opiates. Whatever symptoms there may be, will not be as bad as quitting full agonist opiates.

The only problem/side note I will discuss here with IV buprenorphine - I find myself using at least 4 to 8 times per day depending on if I am getting sleep in that 24 hour period or not. Some people do not find this level of use sustainable, others do.

I would try to cap your usage around 3 to 4 dosages per day, as this will help maintain a steady dosage in your blood as well as optimal effects.

This is the primary reason why I wouldn't actively encourage people to start doing it on a regular basis, also IV usage can be damaging and all. I just think that it was a very good thing for myself, as it helped me distance away from wanting to use full agonist opiates, and it worked very well.
 
Hey I would just like to let everyone know that Ektamine's brother just posted a thread in Second Opinion. Please go over there and give him your support - Make sure his family knows that he died in spite of Bluelight, not because of it.

And yes, the cause of death was drugs, awaiting tox report.
 
Hmm... well seeing as I have microns and everything I need... I am going to give it a shot once I guess. Probably wont switch it to my main ROA, but i do oftentimes puke from snorted/ sublingual suboxone. After you micron it, does it still taste?
 
I heard that shooting painkillers is pretty much worthless other than heroin and some of the liquid ones from hospitals. Anyways I never used to care for the oldies or country, but since then my musical tastes have matured I like some of both.

For oldies...

Jimmy Ruffin (motown)
The Supremes (motown)
Buddy Holly
Simon and Garfunkel

For country...

Hank III
Hank I
Johnny Cash
David Allen Coe
Waylon Jennings
Merle Haggard
Patsy Cline
Tammy Wynette

Those are just what I can think of off the top of my head. I really love Hank III and his related project Assjack...

Hank III- Crazed Country Rebel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YkMcauMmIY

Assjack- Smoke the Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_13WbphrApg

Not the best sound on the last one but oh well.
 
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muvolution said:
Hmm... well seeing as I have microns and everything I need... I am going to give it a shot once I guess. Probably wont switch it to my main ROA, but i do oftentimes puke from snorted/ sublingual suboxone. After you micron it, does it still taste?
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I don't get the nasty taste when IVing it like I did when I used it sublingually.

I haven't tried using the solution any other way to be able to tell you though.

nuttynutskin said:
I heard that shooting painkillers is pretty much worthless other than heroin and some of the liquid ones from hospitals.
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I disagree, namely because you can get hydromorphone and oxymorphone in tablet form. There is also fentora buccal tablets (fentanyl).

Buprenorphine doesn't seem to please as many people as the full agonist opiates I just listed - but nonetheless it's all about doing it safely - which is what Bluelight is here for. :)
 
man, I have dreams about all the Opana I snorted instead of IV'ing.

If I had the shake and dust from all the pills I crushed up that I brushed or blew off mirrors, countertops, my phone, etc..., I would be good to go for probably a couple months.
 
I actually like snorting my Dilaudids better as I also feel like I get "more out there" and stay high for probably 50%-120% longer.
 
muvolution said:
Hey I would just like to let everyone know that Ektamine's brother just posted a thread in Second Opinion. Please go over there and give him your support - Make sure his family knows that he died in spite of Bluelight, not because of it.

And yes, the cause of death was drugs, awaiting tox report.
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where is the thread you are talking about w/ ektamine's bro? either post the name or link it for me,brah.
 
thanks CI- i posted something there for his bro and fam if they care to read it. he was so young. i had no idea. i still have no idea-i just know he had a baby face in his obituary pic. fucked up.

tell em something good CI,something funny to lift my spirits. i feel sad now after that post.
 
Here's a pic I took only a few minutes ago... enormous orange yellow moon in the clouds... made me smile
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Get my rx filled today, got a free bottle of pinot grigio and bought some smokes... Guess this signifies the end of my 10 day sobriety. :P
 
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