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Hello,

Long time lurker, first time posting,

Firstly, I apologise if this should be in the Legal Discussion forum, however i figured with it being Australian specificity posting it in here should be fine, seen a lot of legal discussion threads in here anyway.

So I managed to get myself a Drug caution in the last few weeks and honestly not sure what to expect and what will come of it.

I'm mainly worried about my working future, I imagine this will now come up on any police checks, after the 5 year period will it still come up?

This whole post may be a little scattered, Honestly I'm just a mess at the moment,

Any help would be appreciated :(
 
drug cautions doesnt come up on police checks niggah :)

it only comes up on the police's private check thingymagy

so like if u get checked up by actual coppers next time, their machine will show u have had a drug caution before.
but thru a police check it wont comeup :)
 
drug cautions doesnt come up on police checks niggah :)

it only comes up on the police's private check thingymagy

so like if u get checked up by actual coppers next time, their machine will show u have had a drug caution before.
but thru a police check it wont comeup :)


Giant relief, Headdah i want your babies!
 
if i remember correctly, some drug cautions can last for around 5 years?
mine did i think (might have been 2?), and i think after that time it might be wiped from your 'record'...
so if you get a similar offense in that period can me harsher penalties, but i don't think its as bad as say violating a good behavior bond.
but was 10 years ago now, so maybe someone with more recent knowledge can clarify.
 
For national record release. Pretty much the same for other states but this one is for vic

What will be released
Victoria Police release criminal history information on the basis of findings of guilt,
and may also release details of matters currently under investigation or awaiting
court hearing. It is important to note that a finding of guilt without conviction is still a
finding of guilt and will be released according to the information release policy.
Victoria Police release police records in accordance with any or all of the following
guidelines:
• If the individual was an adult (eighteen years* or over) when last found
guilty of an offence and ten years have since elapsed, subject to
exceptions listed below, no details of previous offences will be released.
• If the individual was a child (under eighteen years*) when last found guilty
of an offence and five years have since elapsed, subject to exceptions
listed below, no details of previous offences will be released. (Note: Court
Orders on care/protection applications will not be released regardless of
the age of the order).
• If the last finding of guilt resulted in a non-custodial sentence or custodial sentence of 30 months or less, the ten or five
year period commences from the day the individual was found guilty.
• If the last finding of guilt is an appeal or re-hearing, the ten or five year period will be calculated from the original court
date.
• If the last offence qualifies to be released, then all finding of guilt will be released, including juvenile offences.
• If the record contains an offence that resulted in a custodial sentence of longer than 30 months the offence will
always be released.
• If 10 years have elapsed since the last finding of guilt, then only the offence(s) that resulted in a custodial sentence of
longer than 30 months will be released.
• If the individual is currently under investigation or has been charged with an offence and is awaiting the final court
outcome the pending matters / charges are released It is noted on the certificate that the matter / charge cannot be
regarded as a finding of guilt as either the matter is currently under investigation or the charge has not yet been
determined by a court.
Please Note: Findings of guilt without conviction and findings of guilt resulting in a good behaviour bond are findings of guilt and
will be released under this policy.
Exceptions
There are some other circumstances where a record that is over ten years old may be released, these are:
• If the record check is for the purpose of :-
о Registration with a child-screening unit and/or Victorian Institute of Teaching
о Assisted Reproductive Treatment (Act 2008)
о Registration and accreditation of health professionals
о Employment in prisons or state or territory police forces
о Casino or Gaming Licence
о Prostitution Service Provider’s Licence (Prostitution Control Act 1994)
о Operator Accreditation under the Bus Safety Act (2009)
• If the record includes a serious offence of violence or a sex offence and the records check is for the purposes of
employment or voluntary work with children or vulnerable people.
• In other exceptional circumstances where the release of information is in the interest of crime prevention or the
administration of justice.
• Victoria Police will release traffic offences where the court outcome was a sentence of imprisonment or detention.
• Serious Offences where the result was ‘Acquitted by reason of insanity/mental impairment’ or ‘Not guilty by reason of
insanity/mental impairment.
Police Records Obtained in Other Australian Police Jurisdictions
Victoria Police conducts national police record checks. If information is obtained from other police jurisdictions the relevant
legislation / policy for that jurisdiction is applied to the information before it is released. In relation to legislation / policy used by
state or territories other than Victoria please contact the relevant police jurisdiction directly for more information.

http://police.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?Media_ID=38447

Since a caution isnt a offence (found guilty [either pled guilty (inc. pay fine) or found by court]), shouldnt be released anyway. But if you were to be pulled over or anything, and they suspect drugs/really bored, look you up and can see you've had a caution, depending how long ago, they have reasonable cause to search your car, body etc. either way speak to a lawyer if your really paranoid.
 
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Yeah was xxxxx, didn't think event names were allowed, and honestly, was stupidly my fault.

Also thank you grugz for digging up that information

My main concern was work related, as in police checks for things like gaming licensing and liquor licensing .

I figured from now on ill get screwed on car / body searches and i won't really have a leg to stand on.

Complete and utter shit, get to waste 2 hours of my life listening to why drugs are bad over two counselling sessions.

This world is going backwards when recreational drug users cop shit like this, when there is so much violence on the streets, waste of tax payers money and general police time.

Really wish I'd taken the matter to court in hindsight, more risky but I imagine I'd be off scott free.

Does anyone know of / or is someone that currently holds a gaming license / casino license that applied for one after getting a drug caution / Cannabis caution?
 
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i wouldn't stress on it too much man.
most police checks are looking for things like violent or sexual related crimes from my experience - obviously to an extent depending on the industry.
i worked for a centrelink warehouse and had a police check done and was currently in the middle of a court case for a car accident (careless driving, failing to stop at the scene of an accident and failing for report an accident to police) and they didn't care.
my caution for possession of pot had already been cleared, but i asked about that just in case and they didn't care either.

if you were charged, it would be a bit more concerning, but as mentioned above, a caution is more used for police in future incidents.
i would say something like a gaming license or casino license would be more effected by something like a theft or robbery conviction (as well as what i mentioned above), and i'm sure a drugs conviction wouldn't go down too well, but perhaps even a small possession charge may not be the end of the world if it was some years in the past, but trafficking would be.

maybe give legal aid a call regarding the matter to hear their thoughts to put your mind at ease?
 
Cheers Misk,

Feeling a lot better now, Might give legal aid a call tomorrow just to hear there thoughts on the matter.
 
Your lucky, its pretty light and won't affect you too much.

Just out of interest. what drug were you carrying, how much were you carrying and how did it all go down?
 
Um dont mention what and how many. Im guessing since xxxxxx is past, and since you already got done, they cant really go caution u again for somethig in the past.

Pretty much on news report it was 8ppl with pills and 2 with weed. Using sniffer dogs. Its in megathread

Police caution and drug diversion course. Would have been personal amount, prolly not more than 3-4, but I dont know as im not a copper.

Well the cops have to have reasonable cause to search u, but the again they just cite anti-knife law n search u regardless depends how much pissed em off or how bored they are
 
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Actually drug charge would be very important in gambling licence, esp posession. Mean you could fall into a habnit, n be likely to feed your habbit, since you pretty much handle money byeye job. But caution shouldnt showup.

Mind you a judge/cop could change it to a possesion charge or using a illicit substance charge or even impose a fine along with drug diversion program. A caution is good in your case. Either that or court imposed drug testing, my mate got that, that was one long year for him.
 
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depends on severity of the case and the time in between.
but you're right, they look at many things to get an idea of character and integrity, but would be interesting to know how strict they are regarding some matters.
 
a said:
Please Note: Findings of guilt without conviction and findings of guilt resulting in a good behaviour bond are findings of guilt and
will be released under this policy.

Wow, never realised that. I guess that means there's absolutely no difference between guilty - conviction recorded, guilty - no conviction recorded, and good behaviour bond - no conviction. As it'll all show up on a criminal record check.

Even shit like insurance. They ask you something like "Have you ever been found guilty of a criminal offence in the last 10 years?".
I always say no, because although i was found guilty it was 'conviction not recorded'. So I thought 'well not like they can find out, so why not lie'

I"m glad I havent' caused a car accident since being found guilty as the insurance would likely not pay out & I'd then be sued for what could be an amount that I could never afford.
 
I've gone ahead and removed all references to the event where this happened. Firstly because we don't usually allow naming of events, and secondly because it was leading to the OP giving potentially revealing information about the offence.
 
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