Heroin Difficulty IV'ing

[bnghit3]

What about the veins in your hands. Seem like they would be easy to hit, but i'm always fucking my shots up too. Ive pretty much given up but i have ampules of morphine coming so I am prollly just going to IM those. also what about the between the toes myth, does that work, or the veins in your feet

 

[amapola]

The IV Injection Megathread as found in the OD directory in my signature has a lot of good information on what veins to hit. The problem with the lower body is it is harder for the blood to flow up the veins.

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Just cut your losses...learn from your mistakes. Remember, you gave someone xxx bucks and let them drive away. Someone who uses dope, someone who already overcharged you, someone you knew for a few days...

I am sorry man but thats pretty damn lame to call the cops because you got ripped off.

What the hell was the point anyway? You told them a fake story, didn't wanna press charges...what do you think you accomplished?

I was gonna press charges I just had to make a decision because this jerk knew where I lived and I had to think about my family, and my automobiles. Also, what the hell man it was over a bill anyway I just wanted my money back. I got my regular guy looking into it anyway.

@John Burrows. I have gotten quite good at it by now except today lol I did a huge shot then I was so shaky i missed another, then I tried another and missed that in the other time. I got to give myself more time in between shots. You know what it also was I was doing to many shots in one day and when I let it heal, this past friday I was hitting each shot first try.

@Cane I understand the misuse of the homophobic term, but now I am offended that you would even change it to gentleman after this person robbed me. I am sure that offended me more than any other members who viewed my post as the context was not meant to demean homosexuals. Obviously I know that it was merely a neutral replacement but when I first viewed it, I was and still am angry about the situation.

 

[SececaRD]

Fuck my life! Just got robbed.Any ideas what I can do fellas/felletes?

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I know this aint the most popular advice, but press the fuck out of the charges on their asses/ They want to play dirty you can play right back!

 

[John_Burrows]

Just be careful not to overuse your "magic" vein. As a general rule I try not to use the same vein more than once in 24 hours, but if you're bruising or it hurts or just seems wrong then you might want to give it more time.

Use the time to find more injection sites!

Is your heroin white powder or black tar?

 

[masspain]

I am so glad I seem to have grat veins that pop out. I am quickly losing them though as time goes on

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Damn I was doing really well over the last two weeks. I would register and rarely missed. But I didn't give my veins time to heal and now I have a bunch of missed shots, bumps and swollen. Right now my dilemma is I have a syringe with three bags in it and its filled with blood. Obviously it's hard to see if the blood shoots in when the syringe is filled with blood. Is there any way to do this? I was going to split the shot in half and fill it up with more water so it would be clearer but then I wouldn't feel anything and risk having those two fill up with blood and have to diluted hard to use shots. Another problem I am having is that I think I am in the vein but for some reason I am not getting the right suction. For example when I pull the needle out a little squirt of blood goes into the solution. Other times I barely pull the plunger back and it fills up with blood in a second. When I pull the plunger back sometimes the air bubble goes straight to the back.

How do I get the maximum suction and how can I see if I am in the vein if I have a syringe filled with blood? Also, this may be a stupid question but aside from diluting the shot by splitting it up into two and using more water is there anyway to get some blood out? I tried to re filter it through a cotton swab but it did nothing.

Update: I split it into two shots I got the first one which was very diluted of course but on the second one I missed it thinking I was in because it didn't swell up until after I loosened the tourniquet. Now I have three abscesses each on both of my elbow crooks. I am using a heating pad and taking doxycycline prescription I had. I am gonna give myself until Thursday to heal. What are ways to improve my vascularity? I have a friend who has really nice veins and I shot him up for the first time the other day and got it first try. Making my veins more visible would not only make it easier to hit a shot, it would save me time, money, product, and the health of my arm. I know losing body fat is a big one but even sometimes that is not enough. I know being hydrated is important but what else, any vitamins or supplements that can help with this. I don't want it to be something temporary I want it to last. Thanks

 

[amapola]

I would be very hesitant about shooting blood as once outside of body it is a breeding ground for bacteria and you can end up shooting clots into you blood stream. Perhaps you could just snort or eat this batch instead?

I have a few questions about your post as well.

For example when I pull the needle out a little squirt of blood goes into the solution.

Pull the needle out of what, your arm? Usually you have finished the shot by then and there is no solution.

Other times I barely pull the plunger back and it fills up with blood in a second.

If the plunger is forced back then it is likely an artery but it should fill with blood in time with your pull back.

When I pull the plunger back sometimes the air bubble goes straight to the back

What air bubble? Isn't it only liquid in your syringe?

 

[TheManWithNoName]

I would be very hesitant about shooting blood as once outside of body it is a breeding ground for bacteria and you can end up shooting clots into you blood stream. Perhaps you could just snort or eat this batch instead?

I have a few questions about your post as well.

Pull the needle out of what, your arm? Usually you have finished the shot by then and there is no solution.

If the plunger is forced back then it is likely an artery but it should fill with blood in time with your pull back.


What air bubble? Isn't it only liquid in your syringe?

1. If I can't register, I pull out the needle and due to the suction I have created by pulling back the plunger, either just air, or air and a little blood is added to the solution.

2. The plunger has never been forced back and the blood is always dark red not bright red which could indicate registering in an artery. Sometimes if I am in the vein and pull the plunger back blood will flow into the syringe with ease. Other times
I just get air and if I puncture the vein a little blood may enter the syringe.

3. After sucking up my solution I flip the syringe up with the needle at the top and slowly push the plunger up while flick the syringe to make sure their are no air bubbles and just to make sure push a small amount of the solution out. Then when put the needle through my skin I pull the plunger back (a tip I picked up from members of bluelight) and if I am lucky blood will enter immediately and I am good to go. If I move slightly or see a bubble forming under my skin I pull the plunger back again to make sure I am in the vein. Most of the time when I pull the plunger back a pocket of air is created, usually about 10 mm and I try and find the vein (maybe that pocket or air is blocking the blood from coming in?) Also, quite commonly after I puncture my skin and pull back the plunger an air pocket is created and sometimes stays in the front towards the needle, but often moves towards to the back of the needle and the solution fills in where the gap was and an air bubble is present at the back of the solution. When I take the syringe out and flip it over the air bubble rises to the top and I repeat the process of removing the air, and start over.

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Something that happened to me that other day but I forgot to mention. I did a shot the other day and I got the usual heart race which usually last a few seconds for me. But it ended up lasting for almost two hours. It was very scary to say the least. I was so messed up at one point I imagined by phone ringing and answered what I thought was my phone but was actually my hand. I have done a lot of opiates but I have never experienced this before. What the hell was it. I asked the girl I got it from and she was like "you did to much, when you do to much it becomes speedy, when that happens to me my eyes get all big and stuff." That doesn't make any sense. At high does opiates don't work the opposite way they normally do. Was it cut with some time of amphetamine like meth or something to give a rush? My normal guy is out of town for the week, this girl can get great stuff but safety is a priority. Has anyone experienced anything like this?

 

[andrikos1977]

listen MAn WithNo Name..

from what you write here i strongly advise you to get with an experienced junkie asap and quit trying to find a solution here.members tell you the right ways to do it but nevertheless only once someone is there with you and shows you the exact way you will understand how to do it.others learn how to do it even by reading in forums but judging by your answers you are not one of them.

how to hold the spike is almost irrelevant my friend.every user does it the way HE or SHE finds it easier.some way that seems very easy to me might seem an impossible taks to you.waht is certain is that you have very big chances damaging your veins if you try to find the correct way of doing this without someone experienced to show you how in person.if you say you find a vein one out of 3 tries you will damage your health severally.amputations among IV users happen mainly cause they suck at shooting.my advice is find someone experienced and shoot with him.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

Listen to John_Burrows Plugging sounds the way to go for you, no needle, injuries, scars, blocked nose etc etc.

If only 1/3 of your shots are successful you need to stop now and get an experienced user to show you how to IV properly before you do some serious damage!!!!

Edit: If you draw back (very gently and slowly) and there is a little spurt of dark blood then you're in a vein. If it's really bright red you could be in an artery and injecting could do massive damage!

Edit x2: if you're using a tourniquet remember to release it after you register but before you inject.

Best advice.

 

[geordieal]

Not sure what stuff u using in US
In UK we cook up all of our gear with water and citric acid or vit C.
Nobody goes in the back door either !!!
And there has been NO , NONE...at all in England since October. ME n my mates have all done our rattles n turkey, n r gettin on wiv shitty normal life. Its shit tho

 

[TheManWithNoName]

I didn't mean that 1/3 of my shots are successful in that the other 2/3 I miss. I make sure I am in the vein and if I slip out I pull back the plunger and see if more blood comes up. I am actually pretty good at shooting I just have hard to see veins, and when I abuse them they are even hard to hit. I give them a break and they become more visible and easier to hit. I am gonna start working out so they become more visible. I have shot up three friends, all with easier veins to see then mine and got it the first time every time. Also, unfortunately the easiest vein I have to hit is in the right crook out my elbow and my left hand is a little shaky. The other night I was halfway done with a shot and my kitten came in the door and scared me and I missed the rest of the shot, lol. Plus you guys know once you go IV you don't go back. The only time when I miss is occasional fuck ups like I mentioned above, or if I get lazy and think I am the vein after a while of trying to hit it and inject but I am going to stop doing that, it's a waste of dope and harmful to my health. I have to gain patience, this girl I hang with has worse veins than me and the other night she sat their for two hours trying to hit it with a blood filled syringe, but she made sure she was in.

 

[littlesparkle]

use minimal units,just until you get better at it so that dosent slip out halfway easily,keep changing veins or your easy ones will go out fast.28guage is much easier to handle than 31 for me though.stick with your forearms/hands or bicep if its visible.anywhere else is asking for trouble

 

[DrugFuckedNZ]

I Took my 8 x 10mg Temazepam tabs which I ate with a few Ten % bourbon & cola's, then and hour later I filtered with a micron filter my 8x 10mg Rubifen brand Ritalin (Methylphenidate).

My first hit went like clockwork, so tried again to re-dose and inject an hour after the first shot.

I registered inserting the needle in my favorite spot and one and only vein I use as I could see a bit of blood shooting up the needle, but when I took the tourniquet off I bumped the syringe so when I jacked back slightly there was no blood so I kept poking to find the vein but nothing so I decided to pull out and try somewhere else.

I quickly replaced the needle and expelled the blood in the syringe and tied up again all very quickly as to not waste my last shot for the week.
I tried again somewhere upstream on my one and only vein and registered as I could see a little blood shoot up the needle so I took off the tie, jacked back to make sure I was still in the vein and started to push the plunger, I must admit I am sometimes a bit shaky by the time I jack back to make sure I'm still registered and in the vein then change my grip to push the plunger and sometimes I can move the syringe and needle around a bit especially on binges of Ritalin. I started to push the plunger as I was getting a bit panicky as it was taking so long and didn't want to waste anymore time. It was started to burn and sting as I was injecting which was a first and I could see the vein was slightly getting enlarged and swollen, as the shot was half way through and I could see the needle was about a third out of the injection site so I jacked back and there was blood so I quickly pushed the last half of the 3mL syringe and 28g needle, but it was still stinging and burning but at this stage I didn't care as long as I got my high (which sounds bad I know). There wasn't such a good rush this time as previous as I was too focused on the pain and a bit worried but I'm sure I missed a bit of the shot as it never hurt like this before and I only use the vein in my forearm that runs from my pinkey finger on my wrist (right hand left side of wrist bone).
This is the only vein I can get as my junkie mate with 20 years experience couldn't find a vein in my left arm after several tries and I also try once a week to give my right vein a rest with no luck.

Is it ok to use one vein as long as you rotate between your four main spots that usually register 100%?
I usually hit that vein every two-three hours on a three day binge and have noticed it has become hard and swollen?

Please give me your thoughts as I'm only 3 months into intravenous use : )

 

[andrikos1977]

I didn't mean that 1/3 of my shots are successful in that the other 2/3 I miss. I make sure I am in the vein and if I slip out I pull back the plunger and see if more blood comes up. I am actually pretty good at shooting I just have hard to see veins, and when I abuse them they are even hard to hit. I give them a break and they become more visible and easier to hit. I am gonna start working out so they become more visible. I have shot up three friends, all with easier veins to see then mine and got it the first time every time. Also, unfortunately the easiest vein I have to hit is in the right crook out my elbow and my left hand is a little shaky. The other night I was halfway done with a shot and my kitten came in the door and scared me and I missed the rest of the shot, lol. Plus you guys know once you go IV you don't go back. The only time when I miss is occasional fuck ups like I mentioned above, or if I get lazy and think I am the vein after a while of trying to hit it and inject but I am going to stop doing that, it's a waste of dope and harmful to my health. I have to gain patience, this girl I hang with has worse veins than me and the other night she sat their for two hours trying to hit it with a blood filled syringe, but she made sure she was in.

since that girl seemed to know exactly what she was doing why didnt you ask her to help you with all your troubles since she was right there infront of you?

my friend i ve been reading all your posts here regarding your trouble finding veins and other stuff and i honestly think you are in grave danger if you continue like this.if you find it that hard to reach your main veins in your crook,then i think you will find it impossible to shoot elsewhere once your crook veins are gone.and the way you treat them its just a matter of time.rotation is crucial and you dont do that.have in mind that once you start searching for other veins you are going also to have to deal with other matters.some of them will be in places where it is ten times more difficult to do the job,totally uncomfortable.also the pain increases in certain veins.both when you go through the skin and mostly if you miss.if you miss in the upper hand site you ll probably blush from the pain.

i strongly advice you to read what experienced members say to you but for crying out loud stop damaging perfectly good veins before you actually find someone to be there on the spot with you so he/she can show you and help you.shooting is firstly theory but then its mostly practise.

and something else my friend.about your loss by that other junkie.man c'mon..junkies steal money and stuff from eachother all day long.thats part of their way of finding their doses.they always did this and always will.good news is that most "bad" junkies can only succeed in stealing if they find a suitable victim.someone dumb or innocent maybe.you lost what you lost because you gave your money to a total stranger and you let him go away.period.just dont do it again.always buy your stuff hand to hand.give the money only if you received the product.and never do bussiness in dark alleys etc.now calling the police afterwards is kinda silly and dangerous if you ask me.many junkies lost in their own drama can get very very dangerous if you mess with them.maybe the guy u met seemed an ok kid but what if he has 2 junkie brothers?what if they take him to court and then after 6months he drops by your house?when i used to sell some russians stabbed me just to get 2 100miligram bags.i almost knew them in a way.they seemed ok kids but one night they were furious for their own reasons and also completely foked up from alcohol and benzos.i never saw that coming so be carefull.ofcourse any junkie you will meet anywhere,if he is sick he is going to talk all sweet to you cause he wants your goods.dont get fooled my friend.an angry junkie with a used needle in his pockets is someone you shouldnt mess with.

please find someone to shoot with you.you will see that after 2-3 times you will get 10 times better at doing it.and whenever you buy "new" stuff that you never tried before DO NOT push all the stuff inside untill you first understand how srong it is.

i hope you ll find your way cause dude you poke more holes in your body than a junkie with a piercing fetish!

 

[mr. mudd]

my hands shook like crazy years ago when I was afraid of missing (with good reason--I'd get infected every time I missed). what you need to do is rest your hand against your arm. it will not shake (well your fingers might, but that won't affect anything) if it's properly resting on your arm. hold the needle high up toward the plunger when you're putting it in so you don't have to move your (resting) hand.

 

[x719]

dude i just read like 3 pages of this thread and that is all i could tolerate. You are killing yourself, seriously. You need to use a diff ROA. Or you need to stop using. I have been doing this for years, at your rate, and your common sense. You have 1 year left of good health if you keep this up. Seriously, your not making good enough choices to stay okay using this ROA. Quit or die from being dumb, honestly.

 

[dirtyoldman]

I recently stopped IM H because members of this forum have made it very clear that it can cause some serious side effects. Not to mention I can see and feel it myself with my leg bruised and swollen. I tried to snort it but whenever I do I fell as my throat is closing up slightly and it ruins the euphoria for me, it may be some cut I might have an allergy too, as this does not happen when I snort say coke or the old oxy's. I have recently started to IV. In the past I have hit the vein maybe 1/3 of the times, usually resulting in an abscess ranging in size. But when I did I felt my heart race then all of a sudden I felt great! I just hit it to times in a row but still I have a very very small abscess on each vein with redness in the area, about the size of a pinky nail and an 1/8 of an inch high. I cook it, let it cool down to let the cuts separate, filter it with cotton, clean the needle with an alcohol swab and wipe down my arm as well. Am I doing something wrong? I have very little experience so i fiddle around with it in my vein, it moves around till I can get it to draw back to see blood then I hit it home.

I know this could have been placed in the IV mega thread but I have concluded people are more inclined to check new threads. Thank you in advance.

your procedure sounds about right....

but I think you may have hit it with the allergy diagnosis when talking about snorting... not to the H per se but more likely to the cut.