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The Worst "Schedule II" Drug

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Schedule II.—
(A) The drug or other subeatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.

Stimulants: Cocaine, Methylphenidate, Amphetamine Derivates
Opiates: Opium, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Codeine, Morphine, Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone.
Syntethic Opiates: Pethidine, Fentanyl, Tapentadol
Synthetic Cannabinoids: Nabilone
Barbiturates: Secobarbital, Pentobarbital
Dissociatives: PCP


In my opinion, PCP was the most awful and not addictive crap ever. Methylphenidate, I was on it when i was a kid but really not big deal. Nabilone was relaxing but nahh...
 
I would say codeine (it should be taken off of Schedule II even as a single agent and put into Schedule III), but I guess it's chemical structure is too close to morphine's (which is nearly identical to heroin). It all has to do with chemistry, really.

Methylphenidate is another one. It sucks, but I'm not sure if it should be taken off Schedule II.

Nabilone sucks too. I can't even believe that is a Schedule II drug. It should be Schedule IV.

I think formulations of oxycodone with APAP or ASA (Percocet and Percodan, respectively) should be placed in Schedule III, just like hydrocodone compounds are.

Methamphetamine should be Schedule I, IMO. There is nothing that methamphetamine can provide that dextroamphetamine can't, so ADD/ADHD meds should start off with methylphenidate, next in line should be Adderall, and then if that don't cut it, dextroamphetamine comes in. D-amp and m-amp are equipotent (5 mg = 5 mg). No other developed country in the world seems to need it on the market for ADHD but the United States. D-amp is always last line.

Likewise, I think cocaine should be Schedule I also. There are other local anesthetics that can be used in the same fashion cocaine is used on the eyes.

Phencyclidine (PCP) is exactly where it should be. In fact, if it didn't have veterinary use, it would probably have been Schedule I by now.
 
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I would say codeine (it should be taken off of Schedule II even as a single agent and put into Schedule III), but I guess it's chemical structure is too close to morphine's (which is nearly identical to heroin). It all has to do with chemistry, really.
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Couldn't agree more, combination products of oxycodone should be Schedule III, just like hydrocodone combination products. Oxycodone XR should stay in Schedule II IMO.

I personally think methamphetamine should stay in Schedule II, while dextroamphetamine, mixed amphet salts and methylphenidate should be in schedule III, if only for refill purposes.
 
The whole Scheduling of controlled substances in the United States is based on bullshit. If you ask any doctor, they will tell you that all the Schedule lists of drugs need major changes because the Schedules weren't decided by doctors, but by the DEA.
 
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Couldn't agree more, combination products of oxycodone should be Schedule III, just like hydrocodone combination products. Oxycodone XR should stay in Schedule II IMO.

I personally think methamphetamine should stay in Schedule II, while dextroamphetamine, mixed amphet salts and methylphenidate should be in schedule III, if only for refill purposes.
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Methylphenidate as a Schedule III I would agree with, but not the amphetamines. I think the mixed amphetamine salts, and d-amp belong where they are.
 
Since this id regarding *US* drug schedules, I'll send it over to a regional forum.



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^This is entirely true. Cannabis shouldn't be scheduled, but its in Schedule I. Heroin and all those mild opiates/opioids that are Schedule I should be in III, or even IV for some of them.

Codeine cough syrup and Tylenol 2/3 shouldn't even be scheduled.

Methylphenidate as a Schedule III I would agree with, but not the amphetamines. I think the mixed amphetamine salts, and d-amp belong where they are.
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Fair enough, but I believe methamphetamine has medical use, should also be Schedule II
 
Where did you hear methamp and d-amp are equipotent?
Me hasn't tried meth but i'd hope that thats not true..and im pretty sure everyone "knows" that meth is stronger than regular amp/d-amp
ive done a lot of d-amp and if thats what meth is liek...pfft.
 
*I never said methamphetamine and dextroamphetamine were equipotent. I know most methamphetamine is racemic methamphetamine, isn't scripted methamphetamine (Desoxyn) technically dextromethamphetamine?
 
herp derp yeah desoxyn is d-meth
but last i knew most meth period is d-meth, cause mofos aint had no P2P
or thats what me thought, frying squirrel would know teh most about meth
 
^Any reason why?

This has, somehow or another, become a topic of much debate.

<<List of Schedule II Drugs (U.S.)>>

Why is everybody forgetting about all the opiates/opioids that have no reason being in C-II? Like ethylmorphine, for example.

Both codeine and ethylmorphine should be unscheduled like they are in France and other countries, if you ask me.
 
I would rank them based on how much trouble they would cause in my life. Since I am a massive opiate/opioid fan, Oxymorphone would probably be the one to spiral me into a nasty web of addiction that I would be hard pressed to make it out of. I have a hard enough time with hydrocodone!!
 
I would say any of the barbs but, that's just like my opinion man. That is of course if we are ranking them based on recreational value.

Couldn't tell ya why methylphenidate (ritalin, concerta) is in there

The DEA works with the FDA on drug scheduling in the US.
 
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gotta love the fact that cocaine is C-II and marijuana is C-I...so that must mean marijuana is a gateway drug to LESS dangerous drugs lol

Heroin has it's place in medicine, has been that way for a very long time. I think it should be placed on C-II since its just as addictive as any other strong short acting opiate/opioid. And yeah they should remove codiene, ethylmorphine, DHC since they are available w/o a rx in the UK and it hasnt spurred a wave of red eyed dangerous home invading junkies looking to steal your gold tooth to pay for their next fix.
 
"Heroin has it's place in medicine, has been that way for a very long time. I think it should be placed on C-II since its just as addictive as any other strong short acting opiate/opioid. And yeah they should remove codiene, ethylmorphine, DHC since they are available w/o a rx in the UK and it hasnt spurred a wave of red eyed dangerous home invading junkies looking to steal your gold tooth to pay for their next fix."

Yea I would have much prefered heroin to diluadid when I was in the hospital for surgery, once you get used to the whoosh of diluadid its kinda fleeting and too short on the half life.

I felt like an equipotent ( as far as analgesia) dose of heroin would been nicer, if only so I didn't have to concentrate on hitting the pain pump button every 10 min as allowed to keep my buzz, er, pain relief going good.. like some kinda video game where the goal is to lounge and stay jacked outta your mind the whole time by pressing this single button, (it resembled a single button joy stick)..

The half life of diluadid was 6-10 min I think so if I kept hitting it every chance i got, which boy u better believe I did, only slept an hour or two a night to get alll my free goddamn heroin-like drugs, anyways it over lapped, the half-life and really built up, one point I came to to a nurse trying to free an iv line from underneath me, I didn't know where the fuck I was, Only reasonable course of action seemed to be to pull back my gown and show her my half-flaccid cock, she seemed like she'd seen a few in her day.. told me no one wanted to see my limp weiner and ta put it away.. That was the closest I got to a BJ from one of the nurses.. shoulda went for the fatty instead of the random 40-ish married lookin' one.. LOL
 
Oh yeah I also agree we should have that glorified aspirin dihydrocodone/vicoden/etc available otc here.. Even in Europe and England I believe they put in enough aspirin to make you ill b4 anyone other than a wee lad could get high on it..

A bullshit system designed to keep people who don't really require a trip to the emergency room or doc going in for a script for the vic's for the pain, (and then still get looked at as junkies AS_FUCKING_IF anyone with a half respectable opiate habit could get high/not sick for a day, two tops off #30 5/500 vics) when they don't have a broken bone to be set or a jagged wound to be looked at cleaned and stitched up..


AARRGHHH I"M STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLDWIDE HATRED OF AMERICAN WANKERS!!
 
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