6th Issue Heroin Discussion Thread... v. Doprah

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I must be extra lucky and the exception as far as subs go cause I can do dope at like midnight wake up at 7 am and blow atleast 2mg usually more of a sub and not go into PW. I've also scraped emptys before, did whatever I got out of 'em waited for the little buzz to wear off and do some sub and don't feel shitty at all.

On the other hand, it seems like no matter how much dope I do after I do subs I can't get a decent breakthrough, and I usually only take them 1 or 2 days at a time max so it's not like there's a bunch built up in my system. Seems like 1 bag makes me feel just the same as 5 or a bundle or whatever. I've seen a bunch of people do subs then a bunch of dope later on and nod out and I've never been able to get even close. I always end up doin a couple bags if I get em when I'm on subs though like a dumbass and always wishin I wouldn't of.
 
Damn I ran into some fire ass off white powder heroin in Southern Missouri of all places!! Got a cousin and her husband that live in Springfield,MO and I was up there last night and this moring I came back to where I'm staying right now, outta Memphis still..lol..and the dope was fire as hell, I have cut way down since I left Memphis to lay low so to speak, but my cousin gave me one bag,weighed 1/10th gram exactly..100 mg on triple beams and I snorted it in two lines a few hours ago and know I'm high as hell,and 1/2 ass on the nod, off snorting one bag of fire dope!! lol, I know my tolerance has not gone down that much becasue I have been doing a little bit of dope from some dudes in the next town over, they get Chicago dope moslty, or Memphis dope from Chicago, but they cut it to like 50% or 40% becasue they are in a small town, and I have to snort quite a bit of that dope to get this high!! lol..damn loaded good off one 1/10th gram of fire dope!! That is some good dope I got and it was from Southern Missouri, where they either have tar or no dope, but this shit was brought in from St.Louis area,where the people that sold it from St.Louis got it I dunno ,but it's the best dope I have done in a good while, months maybe..and the price was right=free from my cousin..lol..although I did give them a 1/4oz. of mid grade sinsemilla from Jamaica, some good mid grade Jamaican sinsemilla my homey brought from New Orleans to me and a few others for a good price..lol..on the nod again good ,been missing dope like this since I left Memphis, and it is better than most of the fire dope in Memphis lately anyway!! lol
 
Whokid? said:
Always you can try telling ur doc. that the naltrexone makes you sick. Got me switched to Subutex
Hope that helps
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I dont have a doctor, and i certainly dont have enough money for one either. Also, i have never encountered subutex on the streets, only suboxone.

But, i might have a doc in a while, if im lucky. Theres this FREE suboxone clinic 10 min away. I havent actually tried getting it from there yet, but its well worth a try.
 
Nothing pisses me off more than being told the raw they got now is "fire"... only to drive and pick up bullshit!!!
 
Whokid? said:
Always you can try telling ur doc. that the naltrexone makes you sick. Got me switched to Subutex
Hope that helps
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Do you notice a difference between the two, and if so, what?

I was just wondering what the point of switching from suboxone to subutex would be, since the bupe is what is active in both.
 
Some people think the naloxone in suboxone is what blocks the opiate. Maybe that's what they are referring to? I know people that say that subutex doesn't block at all like suboxone.

The naloxone was added as an "abuse deterrent" to suboxone to prevent IV use. Basically just BS marketting. It's not to keep you from getting high on full agonists.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
Do you notice a difference between the two, and if so, what?

I was just wondering what the point of switching from suboxone to subutex would be, since the bupe is what is active in both.
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To me, and a lot of other people I know, it seems like the regular orange subs give me painful ass headaches. It's to the point I can't even really take em anymore, I used to think it was just bupe in general or whatever then I started being able to get the generix subutex and I never have a problem with it now.

I've heard it was the naloxone in the suboxone that causes the headaches, but I ain't for sure on that.
 
bmore$finest said:
Nothing pisses me off more than being told the raw they got now is "fire"... only to drive and pick up bullshit!!!
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Yeah no doubt. "raw" should be "fire" but then again what someone calls "raw" is never uncut,always some cut of course,more in some places than others, but it should still be "fire dope" if they are calling it "raw", I hate it when someone says they have some "raw"and it's all powder.."raw" should be rocks at least in grams anyway,or pieces that are hard to crush up without it (a piece) flying across the room when you try to cut it into smaller pieces with a knife or razor blade IMO..raw should def. always be "fire" , but with some of the shady dealers who sell heroin ,you can never tell what they are calling "fire" or "raw" dope..
 
^ I've been on dope for long enoughto know better... But it's like gambling. "What if?" always makes me check it out. It just seems that dealers now a day aren't as reliable on quality or consistancy.
 
to rockmonster i always thought you should take the subs whenever you start to feel WDs kickin in...no matter if its 10 hours or 24 , as long as you feel the wds your all good...is that not true?
 
yall mofos make it hard as fuck to save the shot for in the morning when i get on here hahah. Anyways continue nodding as usual just wanted to pop in and say what up
 
What's up chi town? Copped for the first time in a while. Feelin' real good.

As for the last like 4 pages of this thread, can we cut the fucking speculation about all those busts and hijackings and how higher-ups do shit out of here? Damn, that was just a whole bunch of bullshit spewing right and left.
 
[To me, and a lot of other people I know, it seems like the regular orange subs give me painful ass headaches. It's to the point I can't even really take em anymore, I used to think it was just bupe in general or whatever then I started being able to get the generix subutex and I never have a problem with it now.

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I was tapering over months on subs. See pschiatrist tommorow. Anyway, I was done to a little less than 1/4 of the 2 mg film ( o.5- 0.3 mg). I had a bad day at work and took like 10 mg. That was 4 days ago and I'm fine, just aliitle weak, but I heard it takes 5 days before symptoms start kicking in with subs. Hope I just pass through it with minimal ( I kicked a tar habit- good one in 90 doing 60 mg of juice for 3 days then jumping off- my symtoms were minimal).

But anyway, I woke up with the worst headache the day after, and I don't get headaches much.

bmore's finest said that dealers aren't as consistent. Does the quality of dope seem to be dropping were you'all live individually?

Doesn't seem that way, but Europe has a major drought- they get theirs from afganistan not colombia, mexico, and SE Asia (except for Chicago that seems to get their supply from alittle bit of everywhere).

They're lots of complaints, especially from the UK and Ireland that their issues are mostly cut, don't burn right on foil, ect, are mostly cut (or bash as they call it). Its mostly wacked to shit but someone occasionally gets ahold of fire and then you here speculation that the drought is ending only to find that the dope is shit the next day. A few people sometimes manage descent dope in big cities like London or Birmingham.

Bay Area, Socal, and TJ, whats happening in my backyard?
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chinky said:
to rockmonster i always thought you should take the subs whenever you start to feel WDs kickin in...no matter if its 10 hours or 24 , as long as you feel the wds your all good...is that not true?
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That is absolutely true. You just gotta make sure its really w/ds that you're feeling, and not just coming down, which shouldn't be too difficult if you've ever gone through withdrawal. I can always tell the onset of w/ds cuz my eyes and nose start leaking, and usually shortly after my gut will start rumbling and cramping, i know once that happens subs (or dope) are gonna make me feel a whole hell of lot better real soon. Precip w/ds suck hard, but dont last that long. If you got more bupe, keep taking it in small amounts, like a quarter of your usual dose every hour, and they should go away within an hour or two. That worked for me at least.
 
Hypothetical question: Say someone without an opiate habit did heroin/oxy/strong opiate for like 2 days straight and stopped (they really wouldn't get W/D's) but if they did that and then took subs would they get precipitated W/D's? just food for thought.. anyone?
 
alteknj said:
Hypothetical question: Say someone without an opiate habit did heroin/oxy/strong opiate for like 2 days straight and stopped (they really wouldn't get W/D's) but if they did that and then took subs would they get precipitated W/D's? just food for thought.. anyone?
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I'm not 100% on this but I think it's not so much having an addiction that sends you into PW. It's more of the fact that the dope is taking up all/most of your receptors then if you do sub since it's stronger or whatever it rips the dope off the receptors, sending you into PW. So I think, and again I ain't sure, that if you just did dope for the first time in your life then did sub to soon after it would send you into PW.
 
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