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easy peeps, your right bout jail back in the day, i remember getting thrown in belmarsh in 2000 with a teenth a day habbit on brown and w as well as 70ml of green, fuck me now that was a rattle, got fuck all except like you said m8, 5ml diazi, they were wankers sorry still are, at least now days you can get the green soon as you go in, result, glad people are getting ok now in most of the country, my main man came on this wk, and the gear is fucking lovely 9/10 pre drought ive been smashed and i love it, take care all, and to all that are getting off the ride, fair play to you, good luck be strong, and dont try and do any more than a day at a time, peace %)

Oh so theres a rattle to be had off the rock too? I just never knew this; I was only aware of the intense cravings and the soul-crushing comedown.

Oh my god a Diazepam 5mg wouldnt be worth a fuckin wank - jesus, that is almost fucking inhumane. Respect for kicking under those circumstances man.

Over all, Ireland (Dublin at least) is on fire, and that's official. Its the consensus at last.
 
Hi peeps

I am coming to the general consensus that people do not know what good gear is even if they fell over it I must have phoned 15 people on the advice of other people saying they have good food so off I trot wasting £90 buying singles to find if its worth getting weight and every fucking one was shit the moss whythenshaw fallowfield old trafford gorton all wank at the very best 2.10 from asian and yardie firms so its back on the road for me paying mad money but least its proper 7.10 that's my rating fuck me if I sold it to them clowns they would be saying its 100% lol all I want is a small weight of proper gear
so I can go to work each day leading a normal life is that to much to ask sorry for my rant just pisses me off:(
 
Jesus fuck.

I read this thread, all 644 posts, and that's what I thought. Jesus fuck. Did Thatcher put something in the tap water that turned everyone into zombies? Can't folk think straight any more?

Heroin is the most powerful painkiller in the world. There are some kinds of cancer that morphine can't allay the pain from. But diamorphine does, allows the terminally ill to go out at peace. Useful stuff. It's also the most powerful anti-depressant in the world. In case you haven't noticed.

When I was a kid, GPs could prescribe heroin. There were less than 1000 addicts in the whole country. No drug gangs. No narcoterrorists. No war madness. That all came after they decided to outlaw diamorphine because people got high. Pleasure is bad for you, doncha know. So they introduced methadone - just as, possibly more addictive but not so euphoric. Keep 'em down. They ought to work harder, get their pleasure from the consumer goods they can buy with their wages.

And, over the years, we've come to accept our forelock-duffing, shamed status. After the Iranian junk replaced the old Chinese rocks - the Chinese were honest folk, easily taken down by a motivated Met - we had to turn to lemons to dissolve the muck. In time, we found citric and now you get Vit C in your' exchange packs'. But the addicts have turned into lemons. You go to your 'clinic', now in the hands of private companies (the 'voluntary sector', some scam) and say what a naughty 'user' you've been in hope you'll get some slush to drink, under supervision, to stop the 'rattle'. You say you're 'clucking', hot chicken, and boast to your mates if you get over 50 ml.

Dumb fucks. 300,000 dumb fucks. Do you like it on the outside, criminalised, marginalised, stigmatised, destabilised etc? Do you like giving most of your money to crims who think you're beneath contempt? For crappy gear, cut with god-knows-what. Day in, day out, till you wind up in Belmarsh. But now you get a bit of slush on arrival, no more jailhouse cold turkey - boy, aren't you lucky?

Why the fuck do you put up with it? There are more heroin addicts than Unite union members. Why do you let yourselves remain so powerless?

I'll tell you. You've bought into a crock of shite. You've been fucking brainwashed. Maybe that's what attracts you to the smack, you sorta know it and want your freedom. But, with any proper heroin going for silly money, you end up in deeper bondage. They got you thinking how they want you to think. Folk don't even say " I wanna come off " anymore, they say " I got to get in rehab" instead. Jesus. Suckers.

Wake up! There's £250,000,000 (go on, think about it) of taxpayers money spent annually on 'drug treatment'. That's 'helping' you with your 'drug problem'. Where's the money go? Not on you. Unless you co-operate. If your 'key worker' is your role-model and your highest hope, after of course 42 tiers of detox/rehab, is a job working for the company, they'll help you do that. Otherwise, fuck you - the bread's better spend on the helpers. They're clean and you're junk.

Indeed, way it goes nowadays, you're actually expected to help the people who are getting the big bucks to help you. Think about it. Treatment's a big con and you're the suckers. Because you let yourselves be perceived as animated waste, they assume you are. Might as well make a few quid and kick you around a bit more.

Just think what would happen if all of you walked into your 'drug service provider' one day and demanded what you want - a legal heroin script. How many lives in your town would be vastly improved by one- 10, 100, 1000 more? Get on down there, en masse. Do it today. They've got you where they want you. Shivering on the corner. Stop their reporting to government how happy you are with present arrangements. Fight the Big Lie now! Before you're bled dry.

Time for old Charlie's legal, perfect breakfast shot. The corporation now in charge of my script want to take it away. It'll kill me or close, of course, at my age, but no matter. I'm expected to co-operate, to help in my own destruction, or the d.s.p. get mad, say I'm ungrateful for their help and they'll have to punish me to make me learn. Incredible. But that's 40 years of wrong-way British Drug Treatment at its logical conclusion. They've eaten you and they're still hungry. They'll see a few quid in scrawny old Charlie, toss him into the pot.

I'm not fucking trash. I'm responsible and love my life. If you're not trash either, maybe divert the incredible energies you put into scoring to a better direction. Wake up! It's time 300,000 British citizens stood up and screamed " We've had enough of this shit. We simply do not deserve to be treated this way. We're not going to take it any more."

Or shrug and carry on heading down the toilet. If the next post is some arsehole whingeing about the 'bash' he copped today, or how sharp he is to cop 30% pure, I'll know I'm out of date, my day is done. Within a few years, the ideas of the sixties will undergo a mighty revival or their memory will be extinguished forever. I've a sneaking suspicion it's all in the hands of a bunch of sensitive souls decried as 'junkies'. Out the shadows comes freedom or freedom is relegated to the shadows of history. Up to you.
 
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Jesus fuck.

I read this thread, all 644 posts, and that's what I thought. Jesus fuck. Did Thatcher put something in the tap water that turned everyone into zombies? Can't folk think straight any more?

Heroin is the most powerful painkiller in the world. There are some kinds of cancer that morphine can't allay the pain from. But diamorphine does, allows the terminally ill to go out at peace. Useful stuff. It's also the most powerful anti-depressant in the world. In case you haven't noticed.

When I was a kid, GPs could prescribe heroin. There were less than 1000 addicts in the whole country. No drug gangs. No narcoterrorists. No war madness. That all came after they decided to outlaw diamorphine because people got high. Pleasure is bad for you, doncha know. So they introduced methadone - just as, possibly more addictive but not so euphoric. Keep 'em down. They ought to work harder, get their pleasure from the consumer goods they can buy with their wages.

And, over the years, we've come to accept our forelock-duffing, shamed status. After the Iranian junk replaced the old Chinese rocks - the Chinese were honest folk, easily taken down by a motivated Met - we had to turn to lemons to dissolve the muck. In time, we found citric and now you get Vit C in your' exchange packs'. But the addicts have turned into lemons. You go to your 'clinic', now in the hands of private companies (the 'voluntary sector', some scam) and say what a naughty 'user' you've been in hope you'll get some slush to drink, under supervision, to stop the 'rattle'. You say you're 'clucking', hot chicken, and boast to your mates if you get over 50 ml.

Dumb fucks. 300,000 dumb fucks. Do you like it on the outside, criminalised, marginalised, stigmatised, destabilised etc? Do you like giving most of your money to crims who think you're beneath contempt? For crappy gear, cut with god-knows-what. Day in, day out, till you wind up in Belmarsh. But now you get a bit of slush on arrival, no more jailhouse cold turkey - boy, aren't you lucky?

Why the fuck do you put up with it? There are more heroin addicts than Unite union members. Why do you let yourselves remain so powerless?

I'll tell you. You've bought into a crock of shite. You've been fucking brainwashed. Maybe that's what attracts you to the smack, you sorta know it and want your freedom. But, with any proper heroin going for silly money, you end up in deeper bondage. They got you thinking how they want you to think. Folk don't even say " I wanna come off " anymore, they say " I got to get in rehab" instead. Jesus. Suckers.

Wake up! There's £250,000,000 (go on, think about it) of taxpayers money spent annually on 'drug treatment'. That's 'helping' you with your 'drug problem'. Where's the money go? Not on you. Unless you co-operate. If your 'key worker' is your role-model and your highest hope, after of course 42 tiers of detox/rehab, is a job working for the company, they'll help you do that. Otherwise, fuck you - the bread's better spend on the helpers. They're clean and you're junk.

Indeed, way it goes nowadays, you're actually expected to help the people who are getting the big bucks to help you. Think about it. Treatment's a big con and you're the suckers. Because you let yourselves be perceived as animated waste, they assume you are. Might as well make a few quid and kick you around a bit more.

Just think what would happen if all of you walked into your 'drug service provider' one day and demanded what you want - a legal heroin script. How many lives in your town would be vastly improved by one- 10, 100, 1000 more? Get on down there, en masse. Do it today. They've got you where they want you. Shivering on the corner. Stop their reporting to government how happy you are with present arrangements. Fight the Big Lie now! Before you're bled dry.

Time for old Charlie's legal, perfect breakfast shot. The corporation now in charge of my script want to take it away. It'll kill me or close, of course, at my age, but no matter. I'm expected to co-operate, to help in my own destruction, or the d.s.p. get mad, say I'm ungrateful for their help and they'll have to punish me to make me learn. Incredible. But that's 40 years of wrong-way British Drug Treatment at its logical conclusion. They've eaten you and they're still hungry. They'll see a few quid in scrawny old Charlie, toss him into the pot.

I'm not fucking trash. I'm responsible and love my life. If you're not trash either, maybe divert the incredible energies you put into scoring to a better direction. Wake up! It's time 300,000 British citizens stood up and screamed " We've had enough of this shit. We simply do not deserve to be treated this way. We're not going to take it any more."

Or shrug and carry on heading down the toilet. If the next post is some arsehole whingeing about the 'bash' he copped today, or how sharp he is to cop 30% pure, I'll know I'm out of date, my day is done. Within a few years, the ideas of the sixties will undergo a mighty revival or their memory will be extinguished forever. I've a sneaking suspicion it's all in the hands of a bunch of sensitive souls decried as 'junkies'. Out the shadows comes freedom or freedom is relegated to the shadows of history. Up to you.
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I empathise with Charlie. We NEED to be more vocal. No point whinging about problems, we should use our energy to demand change from up on high.
In this case, we want pure pharmaceutical grade opiates to be available to addicts to allow them the pleasure they deserve from their drug of choice and also the chance to lead a normal life as a functional member of society.
Maybe we should take inspiration from our brothers in Egypt who got what they wanted through simple use of internet, non-violent protest and persaverance.
 
Hi peeps

I am coming to the general consensus that people do not know what good gear is even if they fell over it I must have phoned 15 people on the advice of other people saying they have good
all I want is a small weight of proper gear so I can go to work each day leading a normal life is that to much to ask sorry for my rant just pisses me off:(

I agree with you totally, these people with their recommendation are lying mother fucking wanking bastards.
 
Hi,
This is my first post - though I have been following since November. I have never joined any forum type things before so new exp. for me.
The situ in Edinburgh is still dire - easily the worst in over 20 years. People I used to trust are trying to tell me that 2/10 stuff is "absolute fire". This is going to make it very dangerous if good ever does come back. Having been told this so often and it turning out to be rubbish, folk are just ignoring this "fire" spiel and loading the barrel with multi bags.
These boys who are crying wolf could cause alot of people to go over.

Cheers,
O.
 
Dumb fucks. 300,000 dumb fucks. Do you like it on the outside, criminalised, marginalised, stigmatised, destabilised etc? Do you like giving most of your money to crims who think you're beneath contempt? For crappy gear, cut with god-knows-what. Day in, day out, till you wind up in Belmarsh. But now you get a bit of slush on arrival, no more jailhouse cold turkey - boy, aren't you lucky?

Why the fuck do you put up with it? There are more heroin addicts than Unite union members. Why do you let yourselves remain so powerless?




I know its not funny really but trying to stir up a load of junkies an give us some fire in our bellies, calling us Dumb Fucks, trying to get up off our asses and do something other than going out to score is pretty funny. I know your right but I just want everybody else to get up and fight for our rights, an that the honest truth.
 
Junkies revolution ..

Dear Charlie
We would love to join you in your quest , but we will be to busy standing around in the fucking cold waitin to score our bash.

Many thanks.
 
easy peeps, your right bout jail back in the day, i remember getting thrown in belmarsh in 2000 with a teenth a day habbit on brown and w as well as 70ml of green, fuck me now that was a rattle, got fuck all except like you said m8, 5ml diazi, they were wankers sorry still are, at least now days you can get the green soon as you go in, result, glad people are getting ok now in most of the country, my main man came on this wk, and the gear is fucking lovely 9/10 pre drought ive been smashed and i love it, take care all, and to all that are getting off the ride, fair play to you, good luck be strong, and dont try and do any more than a day at a time, peace %)

I was in jail in 89 m8 n i was on 60ml of meth n using about 3/4 bags on top. i got 27 mths 4 two bars of blow (half key)!!!! SCANDAL EH ? in them days if they got u wiv an ounce of weed the fuckin cops were buzzin there tits off m8. anyway wen i went in lincoln nick they gave me 1 emeneverin !!! i dint even know wot they were apparently its wot they giv 2 alcoholics!!! I got that down reception n thats all i fuckin got. Now THAT was sum rattle m8.
 
I know its not funny really but trying to stir up a load of junkies an give us some fire in our bellies, calling us Dumb Fucks, trying to get up off our asses and do something other than going out to score is pretty funny. I know your right but I just want everybody else to get up and fight for our rights, an that the honest truth.

You ain't wrong%)....maybe someday. For now, best to be hoped is that maybe one or two peops who read it may talk about the insanity of it all to one or two workers at their 'clinic', who may talk to one or two consultants, who may etc.

If i'm not long gone by the time sense returns to UK Drug Treatment, I'll be pleasantly surprised<3
 
This thread, and the seven versions (1000 posts per version) that came before it were an eye opener for me too Charlie.

It ain't the junk that makes them creep - to borrow from Trocchi. The servility runs deeper than that.

(Keep posting. Just maybe not in this thread. ;) I'm enjoying reading.)
 
so,i go down to my clinic and demand what is my right to have-heroin
what do you think they gonna do?
i tell you what they will do
they'll laugh in my face
what about if everyone does it?
then they will invoke their 'right' to refuse us treatment and show us the door
in an ideal world,of course,they'd listen
but we don't live in an ideal world
 
so,i go down to my clinic and demand what is my right to have-heroin
what do you think they gonna do?
i tell you what they will do
they'll laugh in my face
what about if everyone does it?
then they will invoke their 'right' to refuse us treatment and show us the door
in an ideal world,of course,they'd listen
but we don't live in an ideal world

thats the wrong attitude, dya think thats what went thru rosa parks head on the bus?
dya think that went thru martin luther kings head?
dya think thats what went thru the heads of the civil rights movement in derry?
no, it wasnt, people took action coz they believed, im gonna find a poem for yall and then im gonna jump in the bath and clean this mf house!!!
 
easy peeps, your right bout jail back in the day, i remember getting thrown in belmarsh in 2000 with a teenth a day habbit on brown and w as well as 70ml of green, fuck me now that was a rattle, got fuck all except like you said m8, 5ml diazi, they were wankers sorry still are, at least now days you can get the green soon as you go in, result, glad people are getting ok now in most of the country, my main man came on this wk, and the gear is fucking lovely 9/10 pre drought ive been smashed and i love it, take care all, and to all that are getting off the ride, fair play to you, good luck be strong, and dont try and do any more than a day at a time, peace %)

Damn man that must of been some rattle. I was on1g H daily with a 40 mil daily usage ontop when i was nicked, and that rattle (the first one i did inside) was f/king murder. I was climbing the walls so bad. So yourself it must of been so baaaad.
haha yer the 5 il diaz is a joke. i am sure the doctor thought he was covering his arse at the same time not giving 2 f/ks about us. :o
Any way on the better news of your day glad to read you got real nice food. I may be off it myself now, but i hate the idea of those still using being ripped off by rats that need a good bat across their skull.

So great to see things are getting better, and dealers are realizing (hopefully) to claw their buisness back they need to be fair. The one i used for years is back on and he stayed off from 26th of december till a few days ago so i am assuming he has good food, he says it is but i cannot persnaly vouch on quality due to me seeing god since the drought lol;)
Hapy nodding bud. :)
 
so,i go down to my clinic and demand what is my right to have-heroin
what do you think they gonna do?
i tell you what they will do
they'll laugh in my face
what about if everyone does it?
then they will invoke their 'right' to refuse us treatment and show us the door
in an ideal world,of course,they'd listen
but we don't live in an ideal world


They're laughing at you already.

If by 'refuse treatment' you mean boot you off any script you get, they can't if you're polite. What sort of treatment you think you get anyway? Is it so good you couldn't ask for better? You've been conned. Talking trash cos you're scared they'll whup you some more perpetuates the lie - your lack of objection is taken as enthusiastic approval.

I'm not picking on you, we're all just as bad. But would you be so subservient to your GP? Would you expect to consume the paracetemol he prescribes in a pharmacy cubicle under supervison? Or would you say it insulted your dignity? Paracetemol kill far more than narcotics but you swallow all the indignities heaped on you for being 'on drugs' without a cheep. Why?

You are the world, cheroobi. It's precisely because it isn't ideal that you need to speak out. Not like a junkie.:\
 
They're laughing at you already.

If by 'refuse treatment' you mean boot you off any script you get, they can't if you're polite. What sort of treatment you think you get anyway? Is it so good you couldn't ask for better? You've been conned. Talking trash cos you're scared they'll whup you some more perpetuates the lie - your lack of objection is taken as enthusiastic approval.

I'm not picking on you, we're all just as bad. But would you be so subservient to your GP? Would you expect to consume the paracetemol he prescribes in a pharmacy cubicle under supervison? Or would you say it insulted your dignity? Paracetemol kill far more than narcotics but you swallow all the indignities heaped on you for being 'on drugs' without a cheep. Why?

You are the world, cheroobi. It's precisely because it isn't ideal that you need to speak out. Not like a junkie.:\

of course i agree with you
but us junkies are still the minority and any change that would have to be backed by the gov would fail cos the gov is scared of joe public not voting for them cos they wanted to treat junkies like human beings.
you only gotta look at any tabloid newspaper to see that junkies are perceived as no better than paedos or rapists and should be strung up or buried alive.
there is loadsa evidence to support the changes and to prove that they would benefit the public in terms of less crime and more people working and being productive in society.But they are still too scared to be seen helping dirty druggies in any way.it's all about politics and nothing about humanity
 
Originally Posted by brimz View Post
I'm really surprised that peeps rate dhc so highly . Are we tal;king 30mg instant release or 60,90,120mg time release?
As i said earlier if u can get by on say 8 x 30mg a day and be all good then u can't have had much of a habit. if a proper physical addiction at all .
I'm not tryin 2 belittle anyone here i just find it amazing

Bit late in replying to this but I have had a habit for 10+ years smoking anywhere between £30 and £80 a day, took 10 40mg instant release on my first day then cut down by 2 a day, leveled out on 3 which I take when I wake up. Think the drought and the shit gear thats around has made it easier. Have to say in the past I tried the slow release ones and they didn't really work.
 
I was in jail in 89 m8 n i was on 60ml of meth n using about 3/4 bags on top. i got 27 mths 4 two bars of blow (half key)!!!! SCANDAL EH ? in them days if they got u wiv an ounce of weed the fuckin cops were buzzin there tits off m8. anyway wen i went in lincoln nick they gave me 1 emeneverin !!! i dint even know wot they were apparently its wot they giv 2 alcoholics!!! I got that down reception n thats all i fuckin got. Now THAT was sum rattle m8.

Haha you bring back my memories not nice ofc ourse :\ 27 months for 2 - 9 bars, f/k dude but then it was like that back then. I started a 4 year sentence in 88 also mate i was in walton prison in 84 or 5 when there was NO association was 23 bang up and on Sunday we got a film, we were marched to an old church isnide the grounds with shitty thin wooden pews. watching shitty films from the 60s from a prjector, shite days. The same though in 88. I was banged up with 2 others 3 of us in a cell with no toilet no sink no running water doin a 23/7 in the cell. Just a piss bucket for number 2s also, but in all the years i did my time i never once did anything but piss in it but neither would any pad mates.

The kids today who have tvs, play stations, music systems, sky tv also their own flushing toilet in their cell, with a sink hot and cold running water, and their own f/king light switch 8o. 10 o clock our lights were turned off, the night cocky walks along the landing come 10pm flicks your light if you stay silent then he keeps it off, if you want it left on you shout "on boss" and he comes back along around 11pm to turn it off. (i know you know all this bud) plus now they have association most nights playing pool/table tennis/waching tv etc. do not know how good they have it.
Oh by the way i was threed up from jan 88 till december 20th(ish) in walton prison until i was transfered to Lancaster castle (my favourite prison been there more than once) not that any one should have favourites when it comes to prison, but we do :!

Never heard of emeneverin mate. And yep thats were we all got our diaz in reception, when we have to see doc, drop lift cough 8o then he takes the piss with his f/king lack of concern.

Sorry for the long speel, i had a moment :\ so needed a thereputic release in words:)
 
Haha you bring back my memories not nice ofc ourse :\ 27 months for 2 - 9 bars, f/k dude but then it was like that back then. I started a 4 year sentence in 88 also mate i was in walton prison in 84 or 5 when there was NO association was 23 bang up and on Sunday we got a film, we were marched to an old church isnide the grounds with shitty thin wooden pews. watching shitty films from the 60s from a prjector, shite days. The same though in 88. I was banged up with 2 others 3 of us in a cell with no toilet no sink no running water doin a 23/7 in the cell. Just a piss bucket for number 2s also, but in all the years i did my time i never once did anything but piss in it but neither would any pad mates.

The kids today who have tvs, play stations, music systems, sky tv also their own flushing toilet in their cell, with a sink hot and cold running water, and their own f/king light switch 8o. 10 o clock our lights were turned off, the night cocky walks along the landing come 10pm flicks your light if you stay silent then he keeps it off, if you want it left on you shout "on boss" and he comes back along around 11pm to turn it off. (i know you know all this bud) plus now they have association most nights playing pool/table tennis/waching tv etc. do not know how good they have it.
Oh by the way i was threed up from jan 88 till december 20th(ish) in walton prison until i was transfered to Lancaster castle (my favourite prison been there more than once) not that any one should have favourites when it comes to prison, but we do :!

Never heard of emeneverin mate. And yep thats were we all got our diaz in reception, when we have to see doc, drop lift cough 8o then he takes the piss with his f/king lack of concern.

Sorry for the long speel, i had a moment :\ so needed a thereputic release in words:)
The old liquid cosh had that in barrow police station when all the jails were full smashed up coz no treatment for my 15 a day peach palph habbit the worst rattle ever you could kill for it the only good thing its a short but very intence I came round about 2 days later after my cosh feeling grogey as fuck but rattle subsided I thought thank god till they fucked me off to preston jail 1 more shit hole in the prison system
:!
 
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