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Do you think weed is a 'gate-way' drug?

it all depends on the persons personality and personal experience. i know that before i ever smoked weed i already had plans to drop acid and eat shrooms at some point in my life. i think if there is one true "gateway" drug, it would be alcohol because most people i know drank before they ever smoked
 
As "8L4YN3" said before me, marijuana is the most abundant illegal drug so it makes sense that everyone who uses hard drugs has tried smoking weed. Everyone I know who uses heroin, meth, crack, ket, or any other drug has smoked weed atleast a few times. I know personally as a kid I'd never have touched heroin or meth if it weren't for weed. I thought of weed as a soft drug, but to get it, I'd go hang out with the wrong people. They'd use harder drugs around me, and as I started using weed as an escape I became curious as to how all the other drugs felt. Curiosity killed the cat. Ultimately, it was my choice to start using hard drugs, but if I hadn't smoked weed, I wouldn't have turned to it as an escape. Allowing myself to justify using any "high" as an escape led to me just "trying" vicodin, percocet etc.. I never thought this would be me, especially considering how much I watched drugs tear apart my family as a child.
 
hahaha NO! I tried alcohol, LSD and Ecstasy before EVER smoking weed. If anything, I would say alcohol is more of gateway drug. And I agree- alcohol does suck! I drank for the first time in about a year 2 weeks ago and it was lame and tasted horrible. All I could think about was how enjoyable it is to smoke a bowl compared to the drink I was forcing down.
 
The statistics are fucking wrong.... My first drug was cooking brandy which I obtained easily in my kitchen as a young kid.
 
Is weed a gateway drug? No.

If someone smokes weed, are they more likely to consume other drugs? Yes.

Meaning.. if someone is the type of person to smoke weed (take drugs) then they are more likely to try other drugs.
 
No, weed is only an access to other drugs becasue it is illegal, and the people selling it often have other drugs around them or people that deal other drugs, which just makes it easier to get access to other drugs..weed was not my first drug , Valium ,booze and pain pills in the early 90's led to me eventually stoppin drinking and then start smoking weed.. but when I drink alcohol, it makes me want to do coke or some other drugs, but when smoking weed I am happy with just the weed.. Booze is a gateway drug if anything is, I have seen people who did not ever smoke weed do crystal meth, cocaine, and smoke crack becasue they were drunk as hell..never seen anyone stoned do any drug that was offered like a drunk person sometimes does, or has done IMO.
 
It is and it isn't, depends on who you are really. I've introduced people to weed who have never used anything in their life and then they instantly want to try every other mind altering chemical. Then there are those who use it and never want to use it or anything else again in their life. Completely subjective IMO.
 
Personal opinion is no I do not believe la'ganja to be a gateway drug.
I started smoking cigarettes before I ever thought about chiefing , and became heavily addicted to this deadly substance"s" and then on to drinking which I had a little trouble with but quit fairly easy and hen I met people who liked to chief down and so on.

My answer would be no, I do not consider green rose to be a gateway drug.
For side information I didn't become attached to chiefing and it never became a ongoing habit along with not becoming a gateway to other things .
 
The theory smoking pot will make you more likely to do harder drugs is completly groundless and untrue. By the logic one soft drug will make you do harder drugss eventually they should ban caffeine,nicotine,and any other legal substances that will alter your mood because they are all drugs to and if it were true of pot it should be true of them to, but its just bullshit. The guy that will move on from pot to harder drugs isnt doing that because of the pot,its because of who that person is. A shit load of people smoke pot and never move on to the other drugs, why? Because unlike most drugs pot really is safe and very close to harmless. Prohibition also causes a gateway effect,instead of pot being in a store its on the streets being sold along side various other harder drugs, and its pretty obvious that if your constantly going to be around and be offered harder drugs when you go to buy your weed, your gonna be alot more likely to do those drugs than if you went to a store like you would to get some beer where there wasnt any other drugs for sale. The government really is a bunch of fucking retards. They cause most of the drug problems in our society, and are always blaming them on this and that, to blind to see how easily it could all be fixed.
 
raver2008 said:
. A shit load of people smoke pot and never move on to the other drugs, why? Because unlike most drugs pot really is safe and very close to harmless.
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If used responsibly. Firearms are safe, but yet people are killed by people being irresponsible often just by by keeping a loaded gun around. so if you have some " loaded guns " or irresponsible people using and abusing then problems arise for those around them. So, all in all yes it has the potential to be " unsafe " though some really fabricate the truth and their " beliefs "

Yeah, firearms @ bud .. just a off the wall comparison.



raver2008 said:
The government really is a bunch of fucking retards.
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We the people, agree
 
delta, I don't think this issue is quite as open-and-shut as you think. There was a relatively recent study that found that rats that had previously been administered THC self-administered heroin at a higher rate than did THC-naive rats. I am also open to the idea that there might be a correlation between cannabis and "harder" drug use for any number of reasons (because they have similar sources, because those with a predisposition to hard drug use are likely to use cannabis etc), so I'm going to leave this open for a discussion of whether or not there is correlation/causation between these phenomena.
 
First off I think we should define what a gateway drugs is. Is it that pure use of the substance causes you to use other drugs, or the situations surrounding the use of the substance causes you to use other drugs?

If the former, then no, definitely not. The idea that taking one drug can make you use another, completely unrelated drugs is preposterous at best. No one has ever taken their first hit of weed and gone "Wow, I could really use a shot of H with this!" (Well I'm sure someone prolly has, but s/he was prolly a junkie to begin with).

If the latter, then yes, it would be, simply because marijuana is an extremely popular, easily obtainable illegal drug. Being around or obtaining ganja generally means being around people who either use or sell other drugs as well. Because of this you're more likely to try harder drugs than someone who never smoked weed before.

Also, anyone who suggests that alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or any other legal drug is a gateway drugs is fooling themselves. I've never bought an energy drink or cigarettes and had the cashier offer me a little cocaine to go with it.
 
Alcohol was my gateway drug. The first 10 or so times I drank, it was incredible. I can go on and on and on about how amazing it was. Now I hate alcohol. Then I smoked weed, which made me wanna try a hallucinogen, so I jumped to Salvia. Then I tried MDA, then MDMA which got a little out of hand for a while. So I took a break from everything for a long time (during which I got prescribed Hydrocodone). Now I'm an opiate guy. I just got some Oxycodone last night. I have never tried Oxycodone and to be honest I might just get rid of them. I have an INSANE addictive personality so this is probably a bad idea....

Anyways, I was hooked on "feeling better" instantly just by drinking two Budweisers. I never had a chance of being drug free. Getting a high for the first time blew me away. From that second on, I cant go a day without thinking about getting high. It sucks and I have no control over it. Sobriety is an amazing thing though. You'll live a happier and longer life. I hope I find that some day.
 
I started smoking seven months ago and have since then dropped acid, done shrooms, done k, all that. The issue with the term gateway drug is its negative connotation, yea after I smoked weed I started doing other drugs but I always had a desire to try the other drugs.
 
Skyie said:
If used responsibly. Firearms are safe, but yet people are killed by people being irresponsible often just by by keeping a loaded gun around. so if you have some " loaded guns " or irresponsible people using and abusing then problems arise for those around them. So, all in all yes it has the potential to be " unsafe " though some really fabricate the truth and their " beliefs "

Yeah, firearms @ bud .. just a off the wall comparison.




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Yeah I guess it depends on how you wanna look at unsafe, I mostly meant as far as health effects go, because vaporized there arent any to really worry about other than short term memory, but I do absoultly agree that it has potential to cause harm in other ways when put in the hands of irresponsible people, I suppose harmless wasnt quite the right word.
 
Assphace said:
First off I think we should define what a gateway drugs is. Is it that pure use of the substance causes you to use other drugs, or the situations surrounding the use of the substance causes you to use other drugs?

If the former, then no, definitely not. The idea that taking one drug can make you use another, completely unrelated drugs is preposterous at best. No one has ever taken their first hit of weed and gone "Wow, I could really use a shot of H with this!" (Well I'm sure someone prolly has, but s/he was prolly a junkie to begin with).

If the latter, then yes, it would be, simply because marijuana is an extremely popular, easily obtainable illegal drug. Being around or obtaining ganja generally means being around people who either use or sell other drugs as well. Because of this you're more likely to try harder drugs than someone who never smoked weed before.

Also, anyone who suggests that alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or any other legal drug is a gateway drugs is fooling themselves. I've never bought an energy drink or cigarettes and had the cashier offer me a little cocaine to go with it.
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Generally most people consider it to mean the first one, including the government who are the ones throwing out all the gateway lies. Lol the government is the cause of the second scenario so its not likely they would be putting campaigns out complaing about something they themselves are the direct cause of. Any legal drug absoultly would fall under the class of a gateway drug if the gateway bullshit was true, its not like pot has a special chemical compisition that makes you need to do other drugs, if it was true of one drug it would have to be true of all of them.

Sorry to doube post, not sure how to multiquote.
 
I think its undebatable that weed can be a gateway drug. It doesn't mean it is for everyone though. And Its unfair that weed gets flak for that when alcohol & tobacco is just as much. When you ask people it seems like they either start with weed, alcohol or tobacco, OR the odd completely random first drug.

I tried alcohol first, then fascinated with how different reality appeared to me, how exciting it was, I talked to my friends during high school about weed,
THEN: tobacco, amphetamines, hydrocodone, ambien, codeine dxm, salvia, lsa, mushrooms, mdma, lsd, (2ct2) xanax oxycodone

That was a lot of fun to list. But I never would have tried mushrooms, mdma, or lsd, if not for the fact that the dealer I bought my illegal weed at the time had that in supply and I decided to buy it. Gateways?
 
^ Totally agree. The first drug you do will be your gateway drug if you continue experimenting. Once you do a drug for the first time (typically illegal for you at the time or just in general), it kind of breaks that "drugs are horrible and will never do them" mindset for some people. Personally, I was trying to find LSD before I even thought about drinking or smoking weed, or even a cigarette. LSD would have been my gateway drug if I had found it before drinking for the first time, unless I had a bad trip and it scared the shit out of me. Then maybe I would have never touched drugs again. :\
 
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