How come it seems like every mod here has a stick up their ass?

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i agree as far as OD goes. completly nazi with the thread closing mods dnt even let a thread develope at all to see if anything good or entertaining will come out of it. if you go and look at the "BEST OF BLUE LIGHT" IF SOMONE POSTED MOST OF THAT SHIT IN OD OR EVN WHERE THE SHIT WAS SOPPUSED TO BE POSTED TI GARUNTEE CAPTIAN HERION WOULD CLOSE THEM BEFORE THEY WERE EVER ABLE TO REACH THERE GREATNESS, NOTHING AGAINST U RLLY CAPT h I THINK UR VERY KNOWLEGABLE BUT A THREAD CLOSING NAZI ={

If you express yourself in this frankly, primitive, garbled, unfathomable and irritating way, no wonder they close your threads.
I thought we at least shared a language gene, but perhaps not.
Didn't you ever learn to read and write?
My kindergarden kids i teach express themselves better using the English language, and they are all Japanese between 4/6 years old.

Capn H is safe as f*ck.

Piss off and come back when you've grasped the very basics of syntax and simple communication techniques.
 
I don't have anything against the mods but I don't like all the threads being closed. Of course this is a harm reduction site not a chit chat area for drugs but work isn't the place for naps and I still like those too.

Regardless of whether or not anyone agrees I don't see opening a thread here is immature or unwarrantably attacking any mods. Clearly this would be "attacking" the some mods but that is due to them being tied to issue.

I do not much appreciate places which are so strict about their policies. I do not want this many threads closed, if nobody wanted to post in a bad thread then they would go down naturally without anyone locking it. When people get together through any medium there will be micro-governments. I would rather bluelight be much more laissez faire than communistic but there isn't much to do about it right? Voicing opinions will only ever work when the voice that is spewing an opinion coincides with the people in charge. The only valid options are to go somewhere else or to gain mod status yourself and go rogue as it were.

Goodluck OP, I agree with everything except your reference to Nazis but whatever.

You make some excellent points but at the same time, you don't really see the big picture the same as we do who have been carefully watching the forum for so long.

OD especially relies on a core of regulars to contribute a substantial portion of most valuable, necessary, accurate information and when we allow the same threads over and over, they'll get bored and leave... and when that person can go and EASILY find the information using the directory or search engine, why should that detract from new and innovative discussion that furthers the community?

If we didn't moderate (ignoring the sourcing issue) the forum would be overrun by the same threads over and over asking....

-what they can take to get more fucked up off their opioid-of-choice
-how long suboxone will block opioids/how long to wait to avoid P-w/d
-how to defeat the newest abuse proof measure
-how long before they become addicted to 'X'
-how to deal with opiate withdrawal?
and other threads in this vein

Then we'd have TONS of threads with no harm reduction value such as...

-what should I say to a doctor to get 'X'
-Please guess what my heroin was cut with
-Please guess what my RC order really was



If a thread is ever at all a gray area and not a specific, concrete guideline-violation I tell people if they'd like to discuss reopening it, to PM me and I often do reopen them. Oftentimes it seems like it'll be the same discussion that's been done 2 dozen times but when the OP demonstrates any good reason (or sometimes just a polite request) then I'm amenable.

If anyone thinks the forum should be run differently, I am quite open to suggestions. Saying "you close too many threads" isn't helpful nor is throwing around nazi or communist comparisons.

If anyone thinks a specific policy should be changed or amended, let us know and we'll hear you out. I don't IN THE LEAST enjoy closing threads, in fact its annoying, but I'm just trying to keep the discussion as productive and HR-focused as I can.

I don't take criticism personally and I've learned a lot being called out when I was wrong. If its beneficial for the forum I appreciate any feedback.

Recently we started an OD Feedback thread to gauge opinion on this subject and it generated next to no discussion. If people just want to call us nazi's, nothing is going to change. If you have suggestions and solutions to help improve the forum, we're all ears.
 
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lol sorry i had to do it Cane
 
You make some excellent points but at the same time, you don't really see the big picture the same as we do who have been carefully watching the forum for so long.

OD especially relies on a core of regulars to contribute a substantial portion of most valuable, necessary, accurate information and when we allow the same threads over and over, they'll get bored and leave... and when that person can go and EASILY find the information using the directory or search engine, why should that detract from new and innovative discussion that furthers the community?

If we didn't moderate (ignoring the sourcing issue) the forum would be overrun by the same threads over and over asking....

-what they can take to get more fucked up off their opioid-of-choice
-how long suboxone will block opioids/how long to wait to avoid P-w/d
-how to defeat the newest abuse proof measure
-how long before they become addicted to 'X'
-how to deal with opiate withdrawal?
and other threads in this vein

Then we'd have TONS of threads with no harm reduction value such as...

-what should I say to a doctor to get 'X'
-Please guess what my heroin was cut with
-Please guess what my RC order really was



If a thread is ever at all a gray area and not a specific, concrete guideline-violation I tell people if they'd like to discuss reopening it, to PM me and I often do reopen them. Oftentimes it seems like it'll be the same discussion that's been done 2 dozen times but when the OP demonstrates any good reason (or sometimes just a polite request) then I'm amenable.

If anyone thinks the forum should be run differently, I am quite open to suggestions. Saying "you close too many threads" isn't helpful nor is throwing around nazi or communist comparisons.

If anyone thinks a specific policy should be changed or amended, let us know and we'll hear you out. I don't IN THE LEAST enjoy closing threads, in fact its annoying, but I'm just trying to keep the discussion as productive and HR-focused as I can.

I don't take criticism personally and I've learned a lot being called out when I was wrong. If its beneficial for the forum I appreciate any feedback.

Recently we started an OD Feedback thread to gauge opinion on this subject and it generated next to no discussion. If people just want to call us nazi's, nothing is going to change. If you have suggestions and solutions to help improve the forum, we're all ears.

This is why mods are sound. Fair play.
If you don't agree with this then you smell of poo anyway.
 
i personally think there are several reasons drug forums tend to have the strictest mods.

1. they are druggies so they are lashing out after years of being treated like jews by greater authorities.
2. they're on drugs and on the internet most of the time so they're frustrated and abusive.
3. this forum is probably watched by minions of Team America so they tell them to keep it cleaned up to make it easier to peruse our genital state
4. its fun
5. its the internet
6. I'm bored
7. Drugs are fucked

actually, its probably just the Bureacracy effect: give anyone, even a turtle, a rubber stamp to wield and they will start pissing on people's shoes. its basic science.
 
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1.) I can't speak for the others but I have a clean police record so no issues of mistreatment by the authorities.

2.) I'm close to becoming an addictions counselor so rarely use anything other than alcohol and pot here and there so most of the time I'm on, I'm sober. I don't get very frustrated nor would my conduct be construed as abusive... you could argue closing threads in and of itself is, but I try to help individuals as much as I'm able.

3.) The forum probably is being watched but its not something that ever effects us so its generally not much of a consideration.

4.) I would much rather be participating in discussion, not having to clean up gratuitous bullshit so no, mod duties are not "fun".

5.) It IS the internet, you have me there.

6.) I am often bored. I have chronic pain which substantially limits how active I can be.

7.) This one seems kind of irrelevant given the aforementioned.
 
Capn H is safe as f*ck.

Haha, +1.

All of the other mods here have earned my respect as well, not attempting to establish a Hierarchy or anything. I have learned a lot from them all, and for the most part been shown nothing but kindness :D

@OP, when trying to make a serious point, you should refrain from comparing anyone or anything to the nazis. Your likely to immediately discredit yourself to a very large portion of your audience.
 
Cane2theleft, thats true. :) i wasnt referring to ALL mods EVER, i just meant the ones that one might angrily label as "nazi" in reaction to some kind of over-use of power. so not you... i dont think haha... i cant think of any mod currently active who annoyed me before actually. but i know it does happen. it happens pretty much everywhere on the net. its kind of like when a telecom worker can be a dick when you call for troubleshooting or something. dealing with the public etc. etc.

im curious, what do you need to do, in the US anyway, to become an addictions counselor? in canada they all have masters degrees lol! its basically a social worker. so they need a master degree i think. the requirements for jobs in canada involve too much academia IMO, so im curious what its like there. if and when i crawl out of the junky world, i would also like to do that [not that i would, but if you have yourself conquered addiction, who better to helps other?]
 
^It varies quite a bit state-to-state. Most in the field do have bachelors or masters but its not required for the very entry-level positions. You can actually get certified without a degree in my state and this involves basically a 2 year program including about 50 semester hours of instruction, 2 internships and a certification exam.

I plan on continuing my education and at least getting a masters, but I didn't want to get a masters in this if I wasn't sure this is ALL that I want to do, so I'm doing the certification program to start working in the field sooner while continuing my education.

I will probably get a masters in either psychology or social work and I'll likely have some flexibility if I want to stay in the addictions side of things or pursue opportunities elsewhere.

/derailment --- feel free to resume ad hominems.
 
Looks to me like its only the greenlighters and the new comers that complain.
Ive bin on this site way before 2009 and i never had a thread closed or had a infraction.
I think evrey mod is the shit for taking there time to make sure to spread HARM REDUCTION and they dont even get paid for it.
 
My pleasure.I dont think ppl realise that all the mods choose to be mods and all for the safety of other people they dont even know.
It really pisses me off when i see threads like this.Maybe its just that the new comers dont even know that mods dont get paid for this.
Anyways i would like to show my gratitude and say THANK YOU TO ALL THE MODS!!!!!
 
^ YES mate good on you!!

I'm still considering the angles of a Mod appreciation thread.
But in the meantime lets hear it for the BL mods!

Fucking sterling work from you guys and gals.
Ive never been lost for advice or help at BL, nor have I ever been remotely hassled or displeased with the efforts of a moderator. quite the opposite!

Every time i sign in I witness some mod or other doing or saying something ethically spot on.
The work of the mods is never for self-benefit either, as they volunteer their hard work for the benefit of everybody else, and the upkeep of the righteous ethics that govern this forum.

Anyone failing to recognise this ought to be slapped with a soggy wank rag, and anyone slating them with crude and idiotic fascist analogies, is quite clearly a fucking muppet.
We need the mods here to protect us all from your stupidity.
 
I think sometimes moderators of websites in general do not get the respect or time of day they feel they deserve in real life so they make up for it on the internet. And quite frankly Im all for it. Its not like you are forced to post on that website and if it keeps just one introverted mod from shooting up a school and causing a stricter gun law to be put in place, then its definitely was worth it IMHO!
 
Speaking as a newcomer, I think part of the problem is the way the forums are arranged doesn't make it clear what the focus is supposed to be. OD is in the same subheading under Ecstasy, Cannabis, Steroid, and Psychedelic drug forums. If I want to post "I got really fucked up on some great bud last night, what's the best strain in your area?" I'll post it in CD. If I want to post a similar LSD question I'll post it in PD. If I want to post the same question about stims, well it doesn't fit in the 4 categories above, so OD is the next logical choice. But if I post it there then my thread gets closed, because it turns out OD is not just the "other drugs" version of the categories above it.

Here's a real life example: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=490854
If that thread was posted in OD the response would be "Closed, this is just a trip report."
 
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All the mods here have been cool and patient with me, only giving me warnings for stupid rambling posts, but looking back on a few posts that were removed of mine, I see that the stuff had either been covered in another forum or I was being an ass.
The mods do this shit for free, and IMO they are fair to people as long as you do not mess with them on a personal level much, they are people like us and can get tired of someones shit, I know I have annoyed and argued with several mods about things that I thought were true, but after researching the stuff, I found that they were correct about it, and I told them I was wrong and we went on..
They are doing this for free!!! I could not do what they have to do all day long for no money,nothing but complaints half the time, and people not reading the rules,and/or researching shit on their own coming in here asking dumb questions that a quick google, wikipedia search or so on would easily answer!!
 
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