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Psychedelics and Creativity/Self-Discovery

Eye

Eye

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I'm looking for candidate psychedelics for their creativity enhancing and self-discovery features. Any comments or suggestions? I know and understand DXM, LSD, and psilocybin, and I have heard this about methoxetamine.

I'm not interested in studying visuals. I'm trying to put together a blog post about this topic. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Ayahuasca? I've found these trips to be particularly transformative. Several months ago during a trip I had a vision of the person I wanted to be, and now looking back I can see that I've changed and in many ways have gotten closer to becoming that person. I also know of somebody who will go to a ceremony once a year or so to get inspiration for her paintings.
 
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Ayahuasca? I've found these trips to be particularly transformative. Several months ago during a trip I had a vision of the person I wanted to be, and now looking back I can see that I've changed and in many ways have gotten closer to becoming that person. I also know of somebody who will go to a ceremony once a year or so to get inspiration for her paintings.
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I think I saw someone using this in a ceremony on the telly, some sickness involved at first. I will research it. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
I gave my roommate 20mg of Methoxetamine, and it improved his drawing skills (he is a skilled artist) in the areas of shading and fine detail. Perhaps a result of the anesthetic and calming qualities of the drug. But there are also some speedy properties as well, so its hard to say what caused this.
 
Mescaline is a pro-active psychedelic, I can;t sit still on it full of sexual and creative energy whole on cactus, i've only ever tried trichocereus peruvianus but many artists have used peyote or mescaline in which ever form to inspire and drive them to create surreal works for decades/hundreds of years!

LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline - they are the holy trinity as a good friend once put it!
 
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I gave my roommate 20mg of Methoxetamine, and it improved his drawing skills (he is a skilled artist) in the areas of shading and fine detail. Perhaps a result of the anesthetic and calming qualities of the drug. But there are also some speedy properties as well, so its hard to say what caused this.
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I've got some methoxetamine on its way to me right now for my own experimentation. I'm a writer and found DXM to be incredibly creativity-inducing, but it messes with my gastrointestinal system for days after use, and I'd like to find other things that work similarly.

Reading Pihkal has got me thinking I should write about psychedelics in my blog; it's such a fascinating subject. Some of the stories in the book are astonishing. Stories of improved mental health, speech pathology miracles, and the like sure suggest that we should be studying these things in great detail.

I have never had so many fruitful writing ideas as when I used DXM. I had to keep a notebook on my nightstand and in a few other places so I wouldn't forget anything I came up with.
 
There's more to it than calm or speediness. I can't explain it, but I was truly overwhelmed with ideas, and my writing has really improved as well. It's more poetic, more metered. And way more intense. It requires regular use but not overuse. Overuse kills it. I got started using DXM because it is rumored to spark creativity. I read about it in my addiction counseling classes.
 
4-Aco-Dmt sparked some really lucid creativity in my writings. After the lazy come up, my train of thought was fluent and very creative.

Something along the lines of i was using all of my known knowledge at once, and it was coming out properly and making sence, as opposed to being on LSD and just making noises and laughing and making absoutly no sence what so ever.
 
I have a friend who makes psychedelic paintings on mushrooms, 2C-E and LSD. I also heard from another friend that mescaline + MDMA combo is VERY inspirational for art making.
 
Eye said:
I know and understand DXM
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My *1st* suggestion was going to be DXM, since it gives you the tools to "put together" your building blocks. DXM expands one's comprehension of 3D/2D space (and other complex ideas), allowing one to fully visualize coherent structures. But (and it's a big-ass but), it doesn't provide the impetus, the wild card to come up with truly new things.

For that impetus, let me suggest cannabis. It roils your emotions, puts instability into your system, disrupts your lattice to the point of thinking about things you might have never arrived at with other drugs (drugs including your day-to-day endogenous makeup). It may take an heroic oral dose.

and psilocybin
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Similar to cannabis, but with some DXM aspects. Shrooms let you experience completely alien things (like DXM), allow you to partition your internal storage (also like DXM), but seem to also bring you.... something unexpected. It does all this while leaving you more clear-headed than cannabis. You might need to take A LOT.

I'm not interested in studying visuals. I'm trying to put together a blog post about this topic. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have a literature-oriented friend, and he liked DXM (Coricidin, to be exact) above all else. He said it allowed him to "stack his blocks," but he never attained visuals like I did. I can only imagine that he might have been talking about something related to what I experienced, but in a non-visual sense.

So maybe you need DXM, a bunch of shrooms, a *tiny* touch of alcohol, cannabis and perhaps some thujone.

-Mec
 
DXM, 2CE, LSD, and MDMA all seemed to have altered my creative abilities. The only real creativity stimulant I have found is the chronic.
 
LSD would be alright.

It surprises me metoxetamine is useful since it bears resemblance to ketamine and I can have a hard time drawing on that, my skills are pretty much shot though on the other hand there is more interesting abstraction, I was reminded of alien symbols but also of a mentally impaired person drawing it :D good thing I finished it later.

4-HO-MET has given me the absolute most creative ideas, when I used it in a pretty high dose I saw and experienced great and otherworldly things, they were very visual as well. Even though you say that is not what you are looking for let me tell you it helped, because in visions I saw my own creative imagination at work and I came up with excellent ideas that I listed on a note and used later to inspire works that are still pretty much the nicest I have.

By the way one great thing about 4-HO-MET is that it stays light-hearted for much longer than mushrooms (which can be more serious to me), and it allowed me to focus on creative thought and not follow the guidance of the shroom so to speak. I can see 4-AcO-DMT being nice as well but it can be a little too otherworldly and I might have a harder time expressing the mindscapes experienced or visited on it. I guess you could say it's too deep and doesn't relate to everyday things well enough to be expressed in those terms.

Tryptamines are IMO your very best bet, they produce more conceptual distortions that let you tap into creativity - LSD has this as well, it depends whether you want to count it as a tryptamine.
I am not saying phenethylamines won't do you any good, probably most psychedelics will... but they remain more superficial for me and I can only work with things I am already seeing or thinking about so not too much novelty in comparison. 2C-E might get you there and 2C-T-7 and others also have potential but I feel like it would not be efficient.

The reason I am not more enthousiastic about LSD is probably because I have tried drawing under the influence multiple times and it always ends up a little too trippy. If I had used the method I used for 4-HO-MET and only written down the subjects to draw, enough to remember and visualize it all later on it would probably be a big success.
My recipe with 4-HO-MET was 20 mg, then a while into the plateau I took another 12 mg or so and quickly after that I also added the 8 mg I had left at the time. I guess when in doubt double the dose applied here. The trip kicked into full gear but it became pretty crazy though still manageable when I smoked some weed after that as well. Best recipe I can give you but less experienced trippers should definitely be more conservative with their tryptamine dose. :)
 
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Hmm, cannabis kills my creativity, I find it a pretty poor drug for any kind of mental stimulation personally.

I'd agree about DXM, I'm a musician, not an artist, although when I sat down to paint on DXM I made some very bizarre yet coherent paintings. If technically lacking, the creativity was there. I've yet to fully explore psychedelics and guitar...
 
i began drawing when i first took mescaline
then after a few tabs of LSD over the summer my drawing improved more and more
now i have a significant style. i dont use this talent particularly seriously, but it's nice to have!

i'd say mescaline acid & cannabis
 
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My *1st* suggestion was going to be DXM, since it gives you the tools to "put together" your building blocks. DXM expands one's comprehension of 3D/2D space (and other complex ideas), allowing one to fully visualize coherent structures. But (and it's a big-ass but), it doesn't provide the impetus, the wild card to come up with truly new things.

For that impetus, let me suggest cannabis. It roils your emotions, puts instability into your system, disrupts your lattice to the point of thinking about things you might have never arrived at with other drugs (drugs including your day-to-day endogenous makeup). It may take an heroic oral dose.



Similar to cannabis, but with some DXM aspects. Shrooms let you experience completely alien things (like DXM), allow you to partition your internal storage (also like DXM), but seem to also bring you.... something unexpected. It does all this while leaving you more clear-headed than cannabis. You might need to take A LOT.



I have a literature-oriented friend, and he liked DXM (Coricidin, to be exact) above all else. He said it allowed him to "stack his blocks," but he never attained visuals like I did. I can only imagine that he might have been talking about something related to what I experienced, but in a non-visual sense.

So maybe you need DXM, a bunch of shrooms, a *tiny* touch of alcohol, cannabis and perhaps some thujone.

-Mec
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Awesome suggestions and descriptions here, Mec. No alcohol for me, though. %)
 
thomas2laylum said:
i began drawing when i first took mescaline
then after a few tabs of LSD over the summer my drawing improved more and more
now i have a significant style. i dont use this talent particularly seriously, but it's nice to have!

i'd say mescaline acid & cannabis
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Have never tried mescaline and would need research to source it. It may be time for me to find some LSD again, as it has been decades for me. I think it would be an entirely new experience.
 
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