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Obtaining nitrous oxide for legal use.

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If this is not allowed please close. Or i it dose not belong here, please move.

Im thinking of going around to carnivals with an ice cream stand, selling ice cream, smoothies, which i will top with whip cream.

Using the cartridges is going to be a hastle with the high volume of customers. I was hoping to equip a 5lb or 10lb tank. Is there any stipulations on equipping one?
 
Ya, that's exactly what you're gonna do with it...

But from what I know, you just need to show the companies that fill the tanks some sort of verification that you are a vendor. I don't know exactly what documentation a food vendor needs but I assume there is some sort of license or permit involved. You'd probably have to show that to get the tank filled. Different states have different rules though. As someone who uses nitrous for a slightly less legitimate purpose, the cartridges are by far the easiest way to go. Although it would be pretty sweet to show up at a party with a 10 pound tank...
 
Quite frankly this is a bit over the top. :\

You can buy chargers in most towns why on earth go through all this trouble for honestly a mediocre dissociative?

Tanks of any kind of industrial gas, whether it's O2, N2O, C3H8, etc. they all require a license to handle, use, or (re)fill. Ever hear of HAZMAT? ;)

Although it would be pretty sweet to show up at a party with a 10 pound tank...
*Sign* THIS is what killed the rave scene in my area. Dumb people wearing neon candy driving around with nitrous tanks sticking halfway out of their car.
 
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Last year at Shambhala music festival there was a camp called "camp giggles" and they had a semi-truck with trailer attached, and for a couple days there were just handing out free balloons of nitrous to ANYONE that walked by and saw them...the police shut them down, it was really sad. Oh well, that's what ya get for distributing drugs openly when the popo's are around I guess.
 
Perhaps I worded that wrong.

As a food component you're probably right, but N2O is still used in industrial purposes, and people who drive trucks with 75+ tanks of any kind of compressed gas will need a license to do so. This is hazmat.

I have rarely(actually, never) seen nitrous used in food being transported or distributed in large tanks, usually cardboard boxes of several hundred of those little one time use chargers. It is simply not necessary or practical for a food business to lug those things around. You cannot just throw them away they need to be disposed of properly unlike small chargers which can be tossed away in the trash or recycled.

I will read your link though when I have time.
 
^this. even The Big Green Seattle Mermaid herself simply goes through a case of steel whippits for the summer frappuccino rush.

N2O in a big tank is going to be medical use only, and i wouldn't want any industrial N2O or Honda Juice going near my balloons.
 
tanks risk being contaminated with sulfur in the gas to prevent people from huffing the fumes, although this can be filtered out by a fairly cheap trip to home depot it is much easier just to go get some chargers and a nice whip cream canister. never herd of anyone using a tank for whipped cream, even professional chefs use canisters. tanks usually get filled at auto shops, in which the gas is rarely pure.
 
Auto grade nitrous needs to be filtered, as they put something in it so people don't use it to get high. You need food grade or medical grade. As far as I know, most people who have tanks use food grade, as it is much easier to convince someone you're a food vendor than a doctor. The food grade tanks are the same quality as a whippit.
 
There's hydrogen sulphide or methanethiol or some equivalent nasty added to racing N2O as an anti-inhalation agent, there's no O2 as nitrous oxide is a better oxidiser than O2 in many situations.
 
Yeah, just use nangs...how are you going to hook up a tank to a cream whipper anyway?
Like greenmeanies said, even starbucks uses those. A+ for sourcing effort though

:D
 
A+ for sourcing effort though
haha. i think the nitrous mafia is in control of everything.
Nitrous Mafia Bringing Hippie Crack to a Concert Near You
For decades now, that cringe-worthy hissing sound heralding the presence of nitrous oxide dealers has permeated the parking lots of jam band shows. Neo-hippie burnouts and preppy Trustafarians alike line up to buy balloons filled with the gas for $5 a pop, then drop to the pavement, hit their heads, and start liking String Cheese Incident. It's a revolting scene, one that's now become familiar to concertgoers in NYC, where the "Nitrous Mafia" brazenly sets up shop on the sidewalk outside such venues as Terminal 5, The Music Hall of Williamsburg, and Brooklyn Bowl. How do they get away with it?
This week's loooong Village Voice cover story takes a grotesque look inside their booming business. The DEA doesn't consider nitrous a controlled substance and doesn't regulate it, so it falls under the purview of the FDA, which regulates it as a food-grade propellant, medical-grade gas, and prescription drug. It's illegal to purchase and sell nitrous for the purposes of getting high, but most states, including New York, treat it as a misdemeanor. And as the Voice reports, it isn't even on some cops' radar; some of them think it's helium, which may explain why we saw an NYPD car cruise right on by a crowd of nitrous buyers and sellers outside the Music Hall of Williamsburg last year.

There's now some push-back in the jam band scene against the dealers, who are seen as more parasitical than your average goo ball-slinging hippie. "I began noticing that all the people selling balloons weren't nice hippie kids trying to go from show to show," one fan, Justin Heller, tells the Voice. "It became clear that they were a bunch of thugs trying to make money." Another says, "These guys don't even know who Jerry Garcia is, and they never will." One EMT remarks, "I've watched so many young people crack their heads and faces open that I have personally stopped providing emergency first aid." The stuff is called "hippie crack" because of its addictive qualities (and brief high), and the fields of every concert festival are typically littered with balloons, "like bullet shells on a battlefield," as one head put it.

Yep, it's a war out there, and the Nitrous Mafia isn't afraid to fight back with knives and guns; reports of nitrous dealers beating up security guards and other dealers in turf wars are legion. Their main enemy is The Wrecking Crew, a loose affiliation of Dead Heads who recently scored a minor victory by kidnapping one of the Mafia's nitrous tanks and filming a YouTube hostage video, during which the precious gas was released into the open air like the blood of so many hippie infidels.

http://gothamist.com/2010/07/07/nitrous_mafia.php
 
^omg thats hilarious ahahah

$5 a ballon?! wow they must be rackin in the cash
 
it was 3 for $20 last time i was at Phish, 8/5/2010 Berkeley....fucking rippp offf.... nitrous vendors take in thousands and thousands of dollars a night and just run with it. they aren't part of the scene, they are violent at times, it is kind of fucked.
 
Ya, that's exactly what you're gonna do with it...

But from what I know, you just need to show the companies that fill the tanks some sort of verification that you are a vendor. I don't know exactly what documentation a food vendor needs but I assume there is some sort of license or permit involved. You'd probably have to show that to get the tank filled. Different states have different rules though. As someone who uses nitrous for a slightly less legitimate purpose, the cartridges are by far the easiest way to go. Although it would be pretty sweet to show up at a party with a 10 pound tank...

You just gotta tell them you run an ice cream truck business and you need the tanks to keep the freezers in your truck cold.
 
it was 3 for $20 last time i was at Phish, 8/5/2010 Berkeley....fucking rippp offf.... nitrous vendors take in thousands and thousands of dollars a night and just run with it. they aren't part of the scene, they are violent at times, it is kind of fucked.

It's such a shame, nitrous is compressed cosmic gas when used right!

Tanks actually are about the same price as getting a ton of cases of whippets online.

To be honest, I greatly prefer cases and my nitrous gun over dealing with balloons.
 
The mafia was out side of the house of blues in boston last night. They are the scum of the scene. Ruining it, it led me and my friends screaming at the top of our lungs, FUCK THE MAFIA, FIND THE DANK LOOSE THE TANK YOU FUCKS!
 
Me and a friend almost got kicked out of a psytrance night one time cos he had a fuckload of nangs on him for the afterparty and they were selling balloons at a quid a pop inside. He'd left the cracker at home though so got let off as it wasn't feasible that he'd be selling balloons at the party. Those cunts on the nitrous stands must make a feckin' fortune outta the kandi kidz :\
 
Quite frankly this is a bit over the top. :\

You can buy chargers in most towns why on earth go through all this trouble for honestly a mediocre dissociative?

Tanks of any kind of industrial gas, whether it's O2, N2O, C3H8, etc. they all require a license to handle, use, or (re)fill. Ever hear of HAZMAT? ;)

*Sign* THIS is what killed the rave scene in my area. Dumb people wearing neon candy driving around with nitrous tanks sticking halfway out of their car.

mediocre eh, try breathing a medical mix of N20 and O2 for a good hour or so.
 
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