Detox from 300mg Oxycodone per day

[PatienceOxy24]

So I have been taking Oxycodone for over a year and half now. I am up to 300 mg per day, sometimes more. Two days ago I decided to try and take a day off. The morning wasn't so bad, by bedtime my legs were extremely sore. By the next morning it was unbearable, RLS, muscle pain, diarrhea, etc. I mean it was absolutely terrible. Needless to say I went and got my fix. Well, this habit is becoming extremely expensive and is starting to have complete control over my life. Is Suboxone the best way to go for someone like me? I am lost and I don't want to do this anymore.

 

[Atlien3]

try methadone maintenance it works better and is cheaper than suboxone, it was a godsend for me, call you local methadone clinic and arrange an appointment

 

[curlygurl1980]

i am on methadone maitenence and it has absolutley changed my life but bfore i got on methadone i tried suboxone it also works really well it made me to where i couldnt sleep though. they both work really well its just your preference. I also want to tell u i totally understand what u r going thru. i have been a severe opiate addict for 10 years. i tried everything to get clean . but let me tell u there is hope i dont care if some people think u r trading one thing for another i beleive some people need maitenence therapy think about like this a diabetic has to take their insulin that is how i look at my methadone. u dont have to live the way u r living anymore i think suboxone or methadone would work great for u. i have not touched any other drug since starting my methadone it has given me my life back. suboxone worked well for me also i was on it for 3 months and felt like i ciould do it without suboxone i detoxed off of it and i was dead wrong once my opiate receptors didnt have suboxone on them to keep them happy anymore i went right back into my addiction it was horrible that is when i decided to try methadone bc of my sleep issues with the subs. either one u decide though once u get stable i promise u its like a total different world no more waking up grabing the phone trying to find something no more running around and all of the bull shit that come along with addiction. there is hope for u i promise. i am happier than i have ever been and i will prob be on methadone for the rest of my life and thats just fine with me bc i never ever want to go back to being on pill again. you should either go to the methadone clinic or make an appointment with a sub doc immediatley. once u get stable on either one there is a whole wonderfull new way of living. best of luck to u and if i can do it u can too!!!

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^I fully agree that some people certainly need and benefit from long term maintenance (whether that be suboxone or methadone) but strongly feel that its not the first course of action that someone who has only been using for 18 months should pursue.

At this point you'll probably need some form of assistance getting off the oxycodone but I recommend inpatient detox if its feasible or attempting a quicker methadone or suboxone taper and pursuing other methods to assist you in recovery.

Maintenance medications are best suited for people who have repeatedly tried to get clean and standard treatments simply did not suffice so they'll benefit most from maintaining their use in a more socially acceptable and less destructive fashion.

Long term suboxone and methadone treatments have many drawbacks alongside their benefits. One of the most common effects I see from people who utilize maintenance without other treatment is that they get onto medication and are finally able to stabilize a bit and it appears to be a godsend but they don't make substantial changes in their lives or address why get developed a problem in the first place. After doing well for a while they decide to get off the maintenance medication and the problems that drove them to use as well as the consequences from their use return and send them straight back to where they were previously.

Addiction, unlike most medical problems, affects all aspects of your life so to truly treat it you have to address the impacts it has on all of these aspects. Taking a pill certainly addresses the physiological aspect but little (if anything) else.

Curly's diabetes analogy is apt but most diabetics require more than just insulin... they have to make lots of lifestyle changes and if they neglect certain aspects then the consequences of their disease are likely to persist or return.

 

[nanoshot]

I had a 10yr addiction to oxycodone. Been clean for 5.8yrs now. I was up to 8 30mg roxys at a time, 3 times a day. Yes, thats 720mg of roxys a day plus the regular percs and 4 40mg oxycontins (chewed up of course) a day as well plus kadian morphine pills. I was working 7 doctors. I got cought at the pharmacy filling a script that was written by two different doctors for the same med. It was over for me. Told the wife at that time and she wanted full divorce. I was now out of drugs and entering into divorce. Told my regular doctor what happened. He immediatly put me on Wellbutrin and more monitored 30mg roxys to ween me off. I was also using ultram to ween off as well (without my doc knowing that). Don't let anyone tell you you can't get hooked on ultram and have withdraws off that either because it's very real. It took 1 month to totally get off the roxys. The Wellbutrin kicked in at the 30 day mark and that was my saviour. These opiates bombard and wreck your dopamine and you need to fix your dopamine as well. You have 1/3 the problem I had. You can do it, kick it. Don't get me wrong, I still did not feel normal after that month but I could feel I was quickly becomming better. I am still on wellbutrin as of now. I find more pleasure in non-addictive drugs like ecstacy and ketamine now. I hear too many storys of people getting hooked on suboxone when using it for opiate withdraw.

 

[phr]

Long term suboxone and methadone treatments have many drawbacks alongside their benefits. One of the most common effects I see from people who utilize maintenance without other treatment is that they get onto medication and are finally able to stabilize a bit and it appears to be a godsend but they don't make substantial changes in their lives or address why get developed a problem in the first place. After doing well for a while they decide to get off the maintenance medication and the problems that drove them to use as well as the consequences from their use return and send them straight back to where they were previously.

Addiction, unlike most medical problems, affects all aspects of your life so to truly treat it you have to address the impacts it has on all of these aspects. Taking a pill certainly addresses the physiological aspect but little (if anything) else.

Well said.

Maintenance will take care of your dependence, and help you get out of the ups and downs associated with opiate dependency, but it won't fix your addiction or why you developed one in the first place.


You don't necessarily have to use methadone/suboxone, but they're your easiest way out of dependence, by far. If you have the will power, you can taper. And keep in mind that OC's are extended release, making them good for tapers if they're taken as intended.

Good luck.

 

[jamesBrown]

I find more pleasure in non-addictive drugs like ecstacy and ketamine now. I hear too many storys of people getting hooked on suboxone when using it for opiate withdraw.

I couldnt help but say something when I read this.

You are mistaken.....escstacy and ketamine can very well be addictive. It all depends on the person. Im too tired to explain it in detail.....but do some research.....trust me, those drugs can be just as addictive as opiates....just in a different way.

I guess you can learn something new every day.

 

[nanoshot]

I couldnt help but say something when I read this.

You are mistaken.....escstacy and ketamine can very well be addictive. It all depends on the person. Im too tired to explain it in detail.....but do some research.....trust me, those drugs can be just as addictive as opiates....just in a different way.

I guess you can learn something new every day.

What I meant to say was that x and k are not physically addictive like opiates are when they get a hold of the mU receptors. You keep growing more mU receptors and need more opaites to bond to them, thus the physical addiction. I never seen anyone addicated to x so they need it every day to function normal. A person whos physically addicted to almost a gram of opiates a day is not doing it for the "buzz" anymore, there doing it to be "normal" and function within society. It takes a long time to get up to this amount, ten years for me. I functioned normal at work and no one knew I had an opiate problem. I also never seen anyone physically addicted to k where they need it to function on a daily basis as well. Theres no physical withdraw from x or k, where you want to crawl out of your skin because your being eaten alive by withdraws. Maybe the addiction your talking about is just the constant thought of just "wanting" to use x or k, that being a mental addiction.

 

[curlygurl1980]

Cane to the left u r right about him trying other routes first i really wasnt looking that he had only been using for 18 months and also along with my maitenence treatment i go to meetings and see a counsler which i did not do the first time i was on subs u r very right about people stopping maitenece and going right back to using bc they didnt fix the prob they had to begin with. that is what happened to me when i went off of subs. now that i am on methadone i am also doing meetings and counseling. for me i will prob be on mmt for the rest of my life and that is perfectly fine with me bc i have tried every other route

 

[HT harm redux]

I was shooting around 250mg of oxy per day for about 9 months. and i went to a methadone clinic for two weeks, but i didnt like how long i would have to be in therapy (years). so i quit after two weeks. and just stuck to imodium and benzos and aleve and a ton of water.

 

[jamesBrown]

What I meant to say was that x and k are not physically addictive like opiates are when they get a hold of the mU receptors. You keep growing more mU receptors and need more opaites to bond to them, thus the physical addiction. I never seen anyone addicated to x so they need it every day to function normal. A person whos physically addicted to almost a gram of opiates a day is not doing it for the "buzz" anymore, there doing it to be "normal" and function within society. It takes a long time to get up to this amount, ten years for me. I functioned normal at work and no one knew I had an opiate problem. I also never seen anyone physically addicted to k where they need it to function on a daily basis as well. Theres no physical withdraw from x or k, where you want to crawl out of your skin because your being eaten alive by withdraws. Maybe the addiction your talking about is just the constant thought of just "wanting" to use x or k, that being a mental addiction.

yea thats mainly what I was talking about...mental addiction. And in my experience, mental addiction can be just as horrible as physical addiction, and Ive been a seriously hardcore longtime IV heroin junky.

 

[mrflowers00]

methadone or subutex are best also don't do suboxone for at least 2 days after your last oxy dose thats why i say subutex is better i only wait 24 hours with subutex

 

[Blackhawktown]

Well said.

Maintenance will take care of your dependence, and help you get out of the ups and downs associated with opiate dependency, but it won't fix your addiction or why you developed one in the first place.


You don't necessarily have to use methadone/suboxone, but they're your easiest way out of dependence, by far. If you have the will power, you can taper. And keep in mind that OC's are extended release, making them good for tapers if they're taken as intended.

Good luck.

Honostley I disagree. Ive been on high dose narcotics for at least a year opana, oxy, fent, the whole nine. I got sick, but abused before that then was prescribed.I feel tapers prolong the wds.

See I feel like I dont want any of this shit.. i threw my opana's at the wall. I think cold turkey is the best way if your mentally fit. Im on benzos and efffexor (for anxiety) and want the fuck off those too. Im done with that pill shit forever.

 

[caseface99]

^^ It depends on how you go about doing the maintenance. For some people being stable on suboxone for a year or more is the only way to rebuild your life and get back to being a responsible person. It's difficult, but if you work for it time will make it happen. You can maintian on nothing but a couple mgs of buprenorphine even with a huge opioid tolerance, and being on 2-3mgs of bupe isn't a very difficult taper to cut down once your ready to make that step in recovery.

 

[nanoshot]

Honostley I disagree. Ive been on high dose narcotics for at least a year opana, oxy, fent, the whole nine. I got sick, but abused before that then was prescribed.I feel tapers prolong the wds.

See I feel like I dont want any of this shit.. i threw my opana's at the wall. I think cold turkey is the best way if your mentally fit. Im on benzos and efffexor (for anxiety) and want the fuck off those too. Im done with that pill shit forever.

You can do cold turkey with a little help from supporting drugs.. Like I used Ultram to get off Oxy's

 

[teabagger]

x is def addictive

 

[PillPoppingAnimal]

So I have been taking Oxycodone for over a year and half now. I am up to 300 mg per day, sometimes more. Two days ago I decided to try and take a day off. The morning wasn't so bad, by bedtime my legs were extremely sore. By the next morning it was unbearable, RLS, muscle pain, diarrhea, etc. I mean it was absolutely terrible. Needless to say I went and got my fix. Well, this habit is becoming extremely expensive and is starting to have complete control over my life. Is Suboxone the best way to go for someone like me? I am lost and I don't want to do this anymore.

if you use bupe, you can ween down, and should ween down.

if you go on methadone, weening down will take much longer. and for many people its near impossible.

get a suboxone/subutex doctor, and wean down.

i had a 600-1200mg habit and i did it and im now at .7-.9 subutex a day, from 40mg. yes 40mg, i know its a waste but the suboxone could cover my insanely obeast habit.

first few days might suck on sub but i garentee youl feel great by a week.

tip, once the debate to start using again comes up in your head, just dont even let the debate start.

 

[regfairfield]

fuck.........

 

[Thomas29]

One thing I know is that there is no easy way out.

 

[stumblestoprepeat]

x is def addictive

Not in me and my friends experiences. I don't like how after rolling my brain feels fried for a day or two, feels pretty harmful. Everyone I know feels the same way, or at least has no problem maintaining responsible use. Have you been "addicted" to x?


Sorry to thread derail. I've never been addicted to opiates, but I can't even imagine what it's like. Keep on keeping on!