Violenza666
Bluelighter
It's okay, I am well travelled as well. Perhaps we're the same kind of person.. haha
OK stuckinaloop. I'm gonna make this real easy to understand (at least for most people; hopefully you'll qualify too). Actually, come to think of it, I'll answer your very mature post to me in two different ways. Choose whichever you prefer. And please, do me a favor and try not to answer this by something like, "I don't give a fuck what you think, you shit spewing motherfucker!", or something like that. It's just so pathetically childish.
Answer #1:
Grow up, would you? This isn't a competition, a fight or a bragging board. It's (hopefully) a place where people engage in meaningful conversation that helps, informs, prompts others to think.
It's obvious to me that you rather become aggressive, defensive and (hopefully unintentionally) - incredibly confused.
If your brand of 'spiritual awakening' is the kind they foster at your meeting hall, remind me to avoid it like the plague.
Way to represent 12 step philosophy like a pissed off, jealous, cognitively-challenged, clueless child.
Answer #2:
I wasn't 'spewing a bunch of bullshit'. I wasn't 'attacking' anyone or anything. And, for the second time, I certainly wasn't trying to show off by naming the places I've traveled to. Do you attend 12 step meetings? If so, I'm amazed at how knee-jerk your reactions are, how angry you seem, and how resistant to thinking out different points of views you apparently are. (Actually, I'm amazed at how either opposed to or incapable you are of thinking, period). No offense. Just an observation. I could be wrong and you could be the greatest guy in the world (though I just kinda doubt it).
If I had never been to a 12 step meeting and was considering it, then read one of your posts...I think I'd decide to avoid it like the plague. I'd probably think something along the lines of, "Wow, is that the kind of result going to AA brings about in people? No thanks, not for me." Stuckinaloop: if you like your meetings and what they do for you, it might be a good idea to not come across on an internet discussion board like a pissed off, defensive, stubborn, insulting asshole. Just a thought.
As for your having said, 'Way to keep on point, you've got me so beat,' my words went over your head faster than Homer can eat donuts didn't they? I named off the different meeting locations I've been to over the many years I've been to meetings in order to illustrate how they all had my observation of religious flavor in common. That's called keeping on point. When I posit something, I always make an effort to back it up with evidence, either theoretical or empirical, in order to give my statements some credibility.
Lastly, it's not about "getting anyone beat". It's about meaningful communication and honest communication that hopefully prompts more meaningful communication. A discussion board like this one isn't about housing fora in which people purposefully post information to "beat out" other posters. It's about observations, experiences, concerns, info-seeking on the very serious issue of addiction.
Oh, and you never answered my question...Your interpersonal style, your anger, your evident feeling that this is about competition and put-downs - not about idea-sharing, making points backed up by personal experience, about curiosity and concern...
Is that the kind of "spiritual awakening" they're about at your 12 step meetings? Is that what your higher power is all about? Sounds like it's all working out miraculously for you buddy. Congratulations, and keep coming back.
