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What is the strongest drug you can do and function normally in Society?

when i do drugs i dont want to function....
i do that shit on my own time when i know i can just chill and enjoy my high

i would never do them at work or if i had a family thing to go to
 
Personally I function better when I'm under the influence of 15+ mgs of hydrocodone or 10+ mgs of oxycodone. I'm more social, more motivated and generally happier about life.

If I had the resources to be high all the time, I would be and I feel that I could function quite well.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Oxycodone is NEVER prescribed for depression, sorry. Doctors are very reluctant in prescribing oxycodone these days. Almost always reserved for severe chronic pain. There are exceptions...but never for depression. Doctors are stingy with oxycodone. Don't get me wrong, its great for depression but ANY opiate is great for depression. Its too bad they cause physical dependence with daily use.
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i want to go to that psychiatrist
 
Crystal methamphetamine used in moderation.

Haven't done it in a couple years probably now though.
 
some people are misinterpreting the OP's question. i did at first. he means what drugs can you use and not be a fuck-up, not what drugs can you use and pass for sober and function that day.

not a great question though.
 
hydroazuanacaine said:
some people are misinterpreting the OP's question. i did at first. he means what drugs can you use and not be a fuck-up, not what drugs can you use and pass for sober and function that day.

not a great question though.
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Yeah, I realised that. So I edited it to "crystal methamphetamine when used in moderation". As obviously, regular tweaking wouldn't be good long-term at all... it'd be the complete opposite.

edit: Should have probably added "...when used in moderation and only until the crash" too.
 
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Almost any psychoactive substance can be debilitating in large and frequent amounts. I have a few friends who smoke weed daily and they seriously have no ambitions, and they are blatantly not happy with their lives, yet they continue this cycle :(
I on the other hand ingest copious amounts of narcotics on a regular basis, and I somehow managed to get into university. I think the main thing is will-power/luck
 
KingBlueTwista said:
Almost any psychoactive substance can be debilitating in large and frequent amounts. I have a few friends who smoke weed daily and they seriously have no ambitions, and they are blatantly not happy with their lives, yet they continue this cycle :(
I on the other hand ingest copious amounts of narcotics on a regular basis, and I somehow managed to get into university. I think the main thing is will-power/luck
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Will power imo has alot to do with it. Some people can handle drugs in moderation while others get into a zone of uncontrollable wild excess. It depends on the persons personality I suppose & will power. I could never understand why some people get mean & nasty after drinking whisky. Im assuming its their true personality coming out while drinking whisky.
 
One of the founders of Johns Hopkins Hospital/Medical School, William Stewart Halsted, had a long-term cocaine and, later, intravenous morphine habit, which he maintained for decades. He's sometimes referred to as "The father of American surgery."

My point here is "it varies from person to person, and it depends on what you mean." Also, although he did manage to carve out a niche for himself and to lead what most would call an extraordinarily successful life, at least, the drug use obviously did have negative effects on him, personally and professionally. An interesting person to look into further. This is a complicated topic.
 
allalong said:
One of the founders of Johns Hopkins Hospital/Medical School, William Stewart Halsted, had a long-term cocaine and, later, intravenous morphine habit, which he maintained for decades. He's sometimes referred to as "The father of American surgery."

My point here is "it varies from person to person, and it depends on what you mean." Also, although he did manage to carve out a niche for himself and to lead what most would call an extraordinarily successful life, at least, the drug use obviously did have negative effects on him, personally and professionally. An interesting person to look into further. This is a complicated topic.
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Of course drugs will have a negative effect on people in one way or another but SSRI's also effect people negatively too. No matter what the meds are, there will be some negative repercussion. As you stated, William Halsted coped with life successfully while using narcotics but anything you take can have a negative impact on your health & mind. Alcohol, cigarettes, etc.....The question should be, how do you want to deal with your problems thru out life whether its physical pain or mental pain. Some people just do drugs because they are bored & its their choice but it seems those are the people that lose control get out of hand quickly.

Can you live a productive life with family & friends & work included? Yes you can & do it successfully for a long time but just like any thing else, it can have a negative impact whether we want to admit it or not. Cigarettes are known to cause cancer & yet we smoke them like there is no tomorrow. Same with meds, we do them to cope with physical & mental pain or just out of boredom & we know what the outcome can be but we still do them, hey, its life & it makes it just a bit better when we are relieved, if not just for that perfect minute.
 
BananasAndOranges said:
Um....probably not any opiates. Ketamine even though I have no personal experience maybe. Amphetamines and xanax. I dont think you can go wrong with that and some valium....or I Guess Klonopin
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Opiates are just about the only drugs I can function on... I'd be shooting a couple bags of H or a quarter of a Fentanyl pop (not at the same time and not a crazy amount, obviously) before heading out the door to do whatever that needed to get done. Helps that I have very dark brown, almost black eyes that no one can tell my eyes are pinned unless they shine a flashlight...

I have very little tolerance for benzo, they just make me feel groggy. I'm pretty sure people can tell when I had a fair amount of coke or pot... I can tell I'm noticeably "slower" on pot and coke, well, coke and I don't get along very well.
 
Hydrocodone and codeine are pretty weak opiates... I would hope someone would be able to function on either one of those..
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Oxycodone is NEVER prescribed for depression, sorry. Doctors are very reluctant in prescribing oxycodone these days. Almost always reserved for severe chronic pain. There are exceptions...but never for depression. Doctors are stingy with oxycodone. Don't get me wrong, its great for depression but ANY opiate is great for depression. Its too bad they cause physical dependence with daily use.
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Not my doctor, I went to my doctor cause I was hooked on oxy's and couldnt go to rehab/detox cause I would lose my job. So my doctor prescribed me oxycontin to "wean" myself off of them. Starting at 80mg for 2 weeks, 60 mg for 2 weeks, than 40mg for a month and finally 20mg for a month.

Didn't help at all, it only made me worse, so I went to my doctor maybe a month ago to get my clonidine for my withdrawals and somehow managed to walk out with another 68 tabs of 20's. I live in Canada too so still get the original ones. In a way I HATE my doctor but I also LOVE her so so much.
 
i do 60mg worth of roxi's about three four times a week and function perfectly fine, senior in college with a 3.0 average, i take tramadol when not taking roxi's....it depends on the person and their tolerance towards addiction, if i didnt have thse types of drugs around me i prob wouldnt do them
 
i think the hardest drugs to function on in public are:

MDMA- can't stop talking, always a weird big smile, pupils get huge, get flushed and sweat, you look tweaked/can't stop moving, you look spaced out and wide eyed, to tend to say weird things and get amazed at everything. just not good in public.

Dissociatives- mostly PCP, you look kinda crazy and spaced out and tend to wander with poor cordination. theres also a blank stare and clipped, flat speech. same goes for large doses of DXM and ketamine.

Meth- you look crazy and tweaked, flushed and sweating, dilated pupils, look overy awake(eyes are wide open) and wound up, also you get overly talkative and even a bit aggressive(sometimes paranoid) and you can't stop moving.

Weed- the smell on your clothes is the biggest part, even with sprays to try and cover it most can detect the smell of pot. the actual effects of weed aren't too impairing but it can be with some people(it can be quite psychedelic).

Psychedelics- LSD, shrooms, etc. bad trips are more likely in public areas, pupil dilation, look spaced out/tripped out, can have a though time holding a normal conversation, tend to wander and look all around.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Oxycodone is NEVER prescribed for depression, sorry. Doctors are very reluctant in prescribing oxycodone these days. Almost always reserved for severe chronic pain. There are exceptions...but never for depression. Doctors are stingy with oxycodone. Don't get me wrong, its great for depression but ANY opiate is great for depression. Its too bad they cause physical dependence with daily use.
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opiates are great for depression, esp. oxycodone. not even at doses required for people in pain but low dose(7.5-10mg) oxycodone is very effective at providing a lifted mood(not quite euphoria), stress and anxiety relief, and causing a general increase in motivational thinking/mood.

but addiction from either abuse or physical dependence(with regular use) heavily limits it for other uses. however just like with theraputic long term use with benzos for anxiety(not high dose abuse) or even SSRIs(they have a "discontinuation syndrome" which is a bullshit fancy cover title for withdrawl) if the patient sticks to the lowest effective dose and follows the doctor's orders then a taper is all thats required and its easier than benzos which are more dangerous with dependence and are used long term all the time.

however amphetamines are given for resistant depression and often work wonders, and even though they're addictive they won't cause physical dependence. but still opioids need to be looked into for the treatment of depression.
 
puckboy said:
Yeah, I realised that. So I edited it to "crystal methamphetamine when used in moderation". As obviously, regular tweaking wouldn't be good long-term at all... it'd be the complete opposite.

edit: Should have probably added "...when used in moderation and only until the crash" too.
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In most cases, but there are always exceptions to the rule, making it a very difficult question to answer, because some people can't function using 8 vicodin a day, and others can hold down jobs as doctors, lawyers, politicians, professors, etc with an IV H/M/Fent what have you habit.

Philip K. Dick comes to mind...an incredibly prolific author who used heroic amounts of various amphetamines regularly for most of his life, although it's thought that methamphetamine contributed to his death from a stroke aged 53, his cannon is well respected and relatively unique and has been the basis for several films. Most of which suck due to poor adaptation, but that's more the fault of screenwriters/directors using meth.
 
or theres Jimi Hendrix, who consumed massive amounts of LSD, weed, barbiturates(which ended up killing him), amphetamines, and other drugs.

he was always fucked up yet he managed to get the title of the most skilled guitarist period.

sadly, he went overboard with barbs and booze one night and died but we can only learn from that.
 
Really what this thread is turning into is famous addicts that are idolized by non-famous addicts to justify their ability to function in society?
 
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