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Cannabis cures cancer. Our government(s) and drug companies have known about this for almost 40 years, and yet they continue to use very toxic methods, which often fail, over using cannabis.

The time is now to legalize cannabis and educate others on the many benefits it has for everyone.


Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm0Jq9bj98
 
thats amazing! except its another reason the government and pharmaceutical companies will do their best at keeping it illegal.
 
thats amazing! except its another reason the government and pharmaceutical companies will do their best at keeping it illegal.
It really is amazing isn't it? So much medicinal value, from a plant most people can grow and make themselves.

It is a shame how many people needlessly suffer, when a very real and cheap alternative to surgery and chemotherapy exists and the option is not made available to them. The greed from big pharmaceuticals will continue to make this an up hill battle, and the ignorance and apathy from our government will continue to downplay the importance, but it is humanity who suffers because of it. It is all of us, who suffers from the loss of efficiency, lack of education, and degradation of health and well being.


The audio was quite soft in that video. Heres a better version that was linked under the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyxonEc0rY
This one is easier to hear. Thank you.
 
I figure if I don't die of a heart attack/stroke, my most probable causes of death, and I end up with cancer, I will just start slamming back the hash oil and/or apply it topically. Gotta be better or at least as good as chemo/pharma drugs. Might as well try something if you get the big C. I would at least educate/propose it to my friends and family members if they received a diagnosis, and would supply them if necessary.
 
Lets not forget Run From the Cure and the fact that the government holds a patent claiming various, SIGNIFIGANT medicinal uses for cannabis, a patent issued in 2003 - yet cannabis is still schedule 1 meaning it has no accepted medical value.


Ingesting hash oil orally will cure just about anything from ulcers and diabetes to terminal cancer with "24 hours to live." And not only is it a cure, but also a prevention. Better still, there can be no controversy. EVEN IF getting high was a good argument to not use hemp oil, which it isn't, because a cure for cancer which gets you high is STILL A FUCKING CURE FOR CANCER, so i say again, even if it was a good argument - it matters not; orally ingested hemp oil will do all these things and more without getting you stoned, and all it takes is a drop or 2 a day of good old fashioned hash oil.
 
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Lets not forget Run From the Cure and the fact that the government holds a patent claiming various, SIGNIFIGANT medicinal uses for cannabis, a patent issued in 2003 - yet cannabis is still schedule 1 meaning it has no accepted medical value.


Ingesting hash oil orally will cure just about anything from ulcers and diabetes to terminal cancer with "24 hours to live." And not only is it a cure, but also a prevention. Better still, there can be no controversy. EVEN IF getting high was a good argument to not use hemp oil, which it isn't, because a cure for cancer which gets you high is STILL A FUCKING CURE FOR CANCER, so i say again, even if it was a good argument - it matters not; orally ingested hemp oil will do all these things and more without getting you stoned, and all it takes is a drop or 2 a day of good old fashioned hash oil.
Excellent post.

I would also like to add, that topically applied hash oil (as done in the film displayed in the OP), will not get you stoned. Also, it has more uses than just curing cancer (as if that wasn't enough). Topically applied hash oil will also relieve several types of physical pain/ailments.
 
Hi guys,

First of all I'd like to say I agree cannabis or a derivative of cannabis may have some potential use in the treatment of some cancers and other diseases. However it is NOT a cure-all and I do not believe it can cure all cancers. I'm glad you made this post wolfgang, as I think it needs to be discussed. However I think some people are taking things a little far.

I think we need to take a step back and allow more research to be done before we conclude it is a cute of any sorts for any cancer. I do agree that pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in suppressing research but that's not to say I think there's a huge conspiracy where drug companies are hiding a drug that can cure every type of cancer you can conceive of. I dread to think that a cancer sufferer will stop taking their meds in favour of taking hemp oil and ends up dying as a result.

Here's a letter to the High Timee magazine from a respected scientist:

Dec 03, 2009

Dr. Grinspoon's Response to High Times article on Rick Simpson

By Lester Grinspoon, M.D.

Dr. Lester Grinspoon is associate professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and the author of Marihuana Reconsidered (Harvard University Press, 1971) and Marijuana: The Forbidden Medicine (with Dr. James B. Bakalar, Yale University Press, 1993).

This op-ed is a response to an article that appeared in the January 2010 issue of HIGH TIMES, “Rick Simpson’s Hemp-Oil Medicine,” written by Steve Hager, HIGH TIMES creative director.

Like everyone else who has been working over decades to ensure that marijuana, with all that it has to offer, is allowed to take its proper place in our lives, I have been heartened by the rapidly growing pace at which it is gaining understanding as a safe and versatile medicine. In addition to the relief it offers to so many patients with a large array of symptoms and syndromes (almost invariably at less cost, both in toxicity and money, than the conventional drugs it replaces), it is providing those patients, their caregivers, and the people who are close to them an opportunity to see for themselves how useful and unthreatening its use is. It has been a long and difficult sell, but I think it is now generally believed (except by the United States government) that herbal marijuana as a medicine is here to stay.

The evidence which underpins this status as a medicine is, unlike that of almost all other modern medicines, anecdotal. Ever since the mid-1960s, new medicines have been officially approved through large, carefully controlled double-blind studies, the same path that marijuana might have followed had it not been placed in Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, which has made it impossible to do the kind of studies demanded for approval by the Food and Drug Administration. Anecdotal evidence commands much less attention than it once did, yet it is the source of much of our knowledge of synthetic medicines as well as plant derivatives. Controlled experiments were not needed to recognize the therapeutic potential of chloral hydrate, barbiturates, aspirin, curare, insulin or penicillin. And there are many more recent examples of the value of anecdotal evidence. It was in this way that the use of propranolol for angina and hypertension, of diazepam for status epilepticus (a state of continuous seizure activity), and of imipramine for childhood enuresis (bed-wetting) was discovered, although these drugs were originally approved by regulators for other purposes.

Today, advice on the use of marijuana to treat a particular sign or symptom, whether provided or not by a physician, is based almost entirely on anecdotal evidence. For example, let’s consider the case of a patient who has an established diagnosis of Crohn’s disease but gets little or no relief from conventional medicines (or even occasional surgery) and suffers from severe cramps, diarrhea and loss of weight. His cannabis-savvy physician – one who is aware of compelling anecdotal literature suggesting that it is quite useful in this syndrome – would not hesitate to recommend to this patient that he try using marijuana. He might say, “Look, I can’t be certain that this will help you, but there is now considerable experience that marijuana has been very useful in treating the symptoms of this disorder, and if you use it properly, it will not hurt you one bit; so I would suggest you give it a try, and if it works, great – and if it does not, it will not have harmed you.”

If this advice is followed and it works for this patient, he will report back that, indeed, his use of the drug has eliminated the symptoms and he is now regaining his weight; or that it doesn’t work for him but he is no better or worse off than he was before he had a trial of marijuana. Particularly in states which have accommodated the use of marijuana as a medicine, this kind of exchange is not uncommon. Because the use of cannabis as a medicine is so benign, relative to most of the conventional medicines it competes with, knowledgeable physicians are less hesitant to recommend a trial.

One of the problems of accepting a medicine – particularly one whose toxicity profile is lower than most over-the-counter medicines – on the basis of anecdotal evidence alone is that it runs the risk of being oversold. For example, it is presently being recommended for many types of pain, some of which are not responsive to its analgesic properties. Nonetheless, in this instance, a failed trial of marijuana is not a serious problem; and at the very least, both patient and physician learn that the least toxic analgesic available doesn’t work for this patient with this type of pain. Unfortunately, this kind of trial is not always benign.

In the January 2010 issue of HIGH TIMES, Steve Hager published an article, “Rick Simpson’s Hemp-Oil Medicine,” in which he extols the cancer-curing virtues of a concentrated form of marijuana which a Canadian man developed as “hemp oil.” Unfortunately, the anecdotal evidence on which the cancer-curing capacity is based is unconvincing; and because it is unconvincing, it raises a serious moral issue.

Simpson, who does not have a medical or scientific education (he dropped out of school in ninth grade), apparently does not require that a candidate for his treatment have an established diagnosis of a specific type of cancer, usually achieved through biopsy, gross and histopathological examinations, radiologic and clinical laboratory evidence. He apparently accepts the word of his “patients.” Furthermore, after he has given the course of “hemp oil,” there is apparently no clinical or laboratory follow-up; he apparently accepts the “patient’s” belief that he has been cured. According to Hager, he claims a cure rate of 70 percent. But 70 percent of what? Do all the people he “treats” with hemp-oil medicine have medically established, well-documented cancer, or is he treating the symptoms or a constellation of symptoms that he or the patient have concluded signify the existence of cancer? And what is the nature and duration of the follow-up which would allow him to conclude that he has cured 70 percent? Furthermore, does this population of “patients with cancer” include those who have already had therapeutic regimes (such as surgery, radiation or chemotherapy) which are known to be successful in curing some cancers or holding at bay, sometimes for long periods of time, many others?

There are patients who have a medically sound diagnosis of pre-symptomatic cancer (such as early prostate cancer) but who, for one reason or another, eschew allopathic treatment and desperately seek out other approaches. Such patients are all too eager to believe that a new treatment, such as hemp-oil medicine, has cured their cancer. Unfortunately, this cancer, which was asymptomatic at the time of its discovery, will eventually become symptomatic, and at that time the possibility of a cure is significantly diminished, if not inconceivable.

This lesson was brought home to me when I was asked by the American Cancer Society, during a period early in my medical career when I was doing cancer research, to participate in an investigation of a man in Texas who claimed that a particular herb that his grandfather discovered would cure cancer. I was able to locate two women who had well-documented diagnoses of early (asymptomatic) cervical cancer who had decided not to have surgery but instead went to Texas and took the “medicine.” When I first met them some months after each had taken the “cure,” they were certain that they were now cancer-free. With much effort, I was able to persuade them to have our surgical unit perform new biopsies, both of which revealed advancement in the pathological process over their initial biopsies. Both were then persuaded to have the surgery they had previously feared, and there is no doubt that this resulted in saving their lives.

There is little doubt that cannabis now may play some non-curative roles in the treatment of this disease (or diseases) because it is often useful to cancer patients who suffer from nausea, anorexia, depression, anxiety, pain and insomnia. However, while there is growing evidence from animal studies that it may shrink tumor cells and cause other promising salutary effects in some cancers, there is no present evidence that it cures any of the many different types of cancer. I think the day will come when it or some cannabinoid derivatives will be demonstrated to have cancer-curative powers, but in the meantime, we must be very cautious about what we promise these patients.
 
Hi guys,

First of all I'd like to say I agree cannabis or a derivative of cannabis may have some potential use in the treatment of some cancers and other diseases. However it is NOT a cure-all and I do not believe it can cure all cancers. I'm glad you made this post wolfgang, as I think it needs to be discussed. However I think some people are taking things a little far.
It's easy to get carried away when there is evidence of some cancers being cured with cannabis, but I don't think anyone in this thread is claiming that cannabis is a cure all for any cancer.

I think we need to take a step back and allow more research to be done before we conclude it is a cute of any sorts for any cancer. I do agree that pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in suppressing research but that's not to say I think there's a huge conspiracy where drug companies are hiding a drug that can cure every type of cancer you can conceive of.
Again, no one has claimed it's a cure-all. If it were to be legalized, we could actually get some decent research done and find out very specifically where cannabis is preventative, where it is a cure, and where it simply does nothing. The illegalities in itself are preventing a lot of the research we could be doing on it at this moment.

The issue at hand here is that pharmaceutical companies ARE keeping it illegal for profit. This isn't a conspiracy by any means. This is a known fact. It's business, and a dog eat dog world. There is little hiding what we know to be true, and what is going on. There is no hiding the fact that cannabis is a money maker (pharmaceutical, agriculture, ect.) and there are many corporations who work towards keeping it illegal simply for profit and no other reason.

I dread to think that a cancer sufferer will stop taking their meds in favour of taking hemp oil and ends up dying as a result.
You realize this scenario would NEVER happen if cannabis were legalized? Your hypothetical question only applies to the current status of most doctors around the world (they are uneducated due to lack of research due to illegalities), causing the patient to search out illegal and uneducated options.

Have you thought about the millions of cancer patients who go through humiliating years of pain and agony of chemo therapy only to die as a result, when an educated legal option could have saved their lives?
 
It's easy to get carried away when there is evidence of some cancers being cured with cannabis, but I don't think anyone in this thread is claiming that cannabis is a cure all for any cancer.


Again, no one has claimed it's a cure-all.

Here's the quote from a poster above that I was referring to:

Ingesting hash oil orally will cure just about anything from ulcers and diabetes to terminal cancer with "24 hours to live." And not only is it a cure, but also a prevention. Better still, there can be no controversy. EVEN IF getting high was a good argument to not use hemp oil, which it isn't, because a cure for cancer which gets you high is STILL A FUCKING CURE FOR CANCER, so i say again, even if it was a good argument - it matters not; orally ingested hemp oil will do all these things and more without getting you stoned, and all it takes is a drop or 2 a day of good old fashioned hash oil.

The issue I'm raising isn't whether it should be legal it not. I think it should be so we can have research done. But as it stands there isn't any research that has been done in thousands of patients which conclusively shows whether it can cure cancers in the way Rick Simpson etc are claiming. There are only anecddotes.

Until this research has been done it is irresponsible to make these claims without any evidence to back them up. Yes, things might be different if cannnabis were legal, but it is not. That is a fact of life. Just because it's illegal and it's impossible to do certain research at the moment, it doesn't mean one should advocate it as a cure/treatment for all sorts of cancers. If one feels so strongly about it being a potential treatment, concentrate on making it legal and pushing for further research into its use as a cancer treatment. However, don't advocate it as a treatment in the absense of research just because none exists due to cannabis' illegality.

Have you thought about the millions of cancer patients who go through humiliating years of pain and agony of chemo therapy only to die as a result, when an educated legal option could have saved their lives?

Have you thought about cancer sufferers that might die who otherwise might survive after they see videos on Youtube like 'Running from the cure' and stop taking chemotherapy that has been developed in controlled scientific clinical trials? Rick Simpson is not a scientist. He is making claims and offering anecdotes, not evidence-based medicine.
 
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But as it stands there isn't any research that has been done in thousands of patients which conclusively shows whether it can cure cancers
This is incorrect. There have been thousands of animals tested with THC and cannibinoids that is 100% conclusive in reducing tumors also, "cannabinoids have shown that they inhibit the proliferation of a wide range of cancers, including brain cancer, prostate cancer, oral cancers, lung cancer, skin cancer, pancreatic cancer, biliary tract cancers, and lymphoma."http://blog.norml.org/2010/08/04/cannabis-once-again-shown-to-halt-cancer-growth-so-why-arent-we-studying-it-in-humans/

There has not been nearly as much research done on humans as other animals, but how many animals did it take to approve all of these very well accepted forms of chemo therapy? I am willing to bet that many deadly medicines have been pushed through the door far quicker and faster with much less research done than with cannabis (which is STILL illegal).


How much MORE proof does one need to conclude that it does reduce tumors and cancer cells?
 
This is incorrect. There have been thousands of animals tested with THC and cannibinoids that is 100% conclusive in reducing tumors also, "cannabinoids have shown that they inhibit the proliferation of a wide range of cancers, including brain cancer, prostate cancer, oral cancers, lung cancer, skin cancer, pancreatic cancer, biliary tract cancers, and lymphoma."http://blog.norml.org/2010/08/04/cannabis-once-again-shown-to-halt-cancer-growth-so-why-arent-we-studying-it-in-humans/

There has not been nearly as much research done on humans as other animals, but how many animals did it take to approve all of these very well accepted forms of chemo therapy? I am willing to bet that many deadly medicines have been pushed through the door far quicker and faster with much less research done than with cannabis (which is STILL illegal).

How much MORE proof does one need to conclude that it does reduce tumors and cancer cells?

Show me one clinical trial done in humans which shows it's an effective treatment for cancer as described in this thread.

You can't.

In vitro studies or even in vivo animal studies are not proof it's an effective treatment for cancer in humans. There are many reasons why this is true, I dint have time to go into why this is.

These studies you are referring to should be used as a stepping stone for further research, not as a reason for cancer patients to haphazardly use cannabis instead of proven treatments that are already available.
 
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Show me one clinical trial done in humans which shows it's an effective treatment for cancer as described in this thread.

You can't.
That's because it's illegal.

These studies you are referring to should be used as a stepping stone for further research, not as a reason for cancer patients to haphazardly use cannabis instead of proven treatments that are already available.
You just described how every single type of cancer treatment is made available to the public.
 
We're going around in circles now

The way cancer treatments are 'made available to the public' is through completing final phase III clinical trials. However you don't seem to be able to referenced any phase III cannabis cancer trials. You're apparently only able to extrapolate obscure in vitro or in vivo animal trials.

I challenge you to give the source of one final phase III trial that shows cannabis is an efficacious treatment for cancer, in humans i.e a trial actually done with human volunteers.

You can't. Your response shouldn't be oh well, it's illegal and therefore research can't be done in humans, so we may as well rely on misleading anecdotes on YouTube as a basis for saying cancer patients should ditch tried and tested treatments in favour of using cannabis. It should be let's do something to make it legal so this research can be done.
 
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Your response shouldn't be oh well, it's illegal and therefore research can't be done in humans, so we may as well rely on misleading anecdotes on YouTube as a basis for saying cancer patients should ditch tried and tested treatments in favour of using cannabis.
That's not what I said at all. In fact, I will refer you to the OP of the thread:

"Cannabis cures cancer. Our government(s) and drug companies have known about this for almost 40 years, and yet they continue to use very toxic methods, which often fail, over using cannabis.

The time is now to legalize cannabis and educate others on the many benefits it has for everyone."

The original link to youtube is a very educational film simply there to aid you in the research process. If you actually paid attention to the film you would see that it is far from self reliant. It encourages you to look up your own research links such as the one I just posted.
 
Let's simplify this. You are making the claim that cannabis cures cancer. Right? Yet you can't verify this. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you say about it being illegal. Put simply, you cannot provide any credible proof it's an effective cancer treatment and therefore your advocating it's use in treating cancer is inappropriate.
 
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