Peptides (CJC, MGF, Frag-HGH, etc)

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I don't really think that peptides are very good for most people anymore. I used to think they were the shit and awesome...and IGF is still some pretty anabolic stuff. But if you want mass then test is your best bet. If its an either or issue (and not a both issue!) then the answer is obviously testosterone.
 
In the Eyes of God said:
CJC-1295 = GOD!! fucking GOD! Ive been using this almost non-stop since the day I first tried it. This shit is GOD. The single most beautifully developed peptide ever to come across the BBing scene. In-fucking-credible. This is seriously a FLAWLESSLY designed pharmacologic agent. The things ConjuChem did for developing this peptide is phenomenal. Ive never been more proud to be Canadian (ConjuChem is Montreal based company!). Even more incredible, this product provides the perfect foundation for enhancing it to a level greater than anything thats ever existed for the bodybuilding scene before. Something I discovered that ive been experimenting with for the past little while that no one else seems to have realized, and I need to break the silence on it and open up the can of worms.

Im telling you, CJC-1295 is PEPTIDE PERFECTION. There will never, ever, be any greater peptide than this peptide to ever hit the BBing scene, ever, thats a guarantee. It cannot get any better than this, it really cannot its the pinnacle. Lr3IGF-1 is OBSOLETE, HGH is OBSOLETE, SERMORELIN? HEXARELIN? GHRELIN? GHRP-2? GHRP-6? ALL OBSOLETE, LAUGHABLE by comparison. Its PERFECT dude.


First these dudes (ConjuChem) realized that natural pulsatile release patterns are more effective and less likely to promote acromegalic deformations verse exogenously supplier recombinant HGH. So they chose GHRH to base their masterpiece off of, and thats exactly what it is a fawkin masterpiece.

Next, these sons of bitches analyzed all the proteases in the body that cleave various amino acids from the GHRH peptide and therefore degrade and deactivate it after approximately 7 minutes. They then chose to remove all the exact specific amino acids that undergo proteolytic cleavage in the GHRH peptide string and replace them with amino acids that cannot be cleaved by the bodies proteases. GENIUS. It makes it virtually immortal. They then modify it to undergo bioconjugation and bind to albumin, one of the most abundant compounds in the body, to further enhance its duration and prevent its clearance from the body. Creating a monstrously mutant masterpiece.
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That is some serious praise for GHRH. My boss has mentioned working with it before, as lots of our work would be applicable to it, but it's not really a high priority right now if that says anything.

In the eyes of god, you would probably love to hear what I could tell you I can do to GHRH!
 
Can't really say. Proprietary information. Covalent chemical modifications & special amino acid substitutions. I do a lot of work on endocrine hormones. ;-P
 
There is a lot of misinformation regarding ghrh and ghrp-6 in this thread. For one, ghrp-6 carries with it enormous sides. The most obvious is the tremendous increase in appetite. It also turns your nut sack into a loose, shriveled up sack of nothing. Most of the users of ghrp-6 realize this and it is losing popularity. BB'ers no longer use it post cycle for pct, obviously. For gh release, synergistic potentiation effects, and a subsequent increase in igf-1 you would combine ghrh (grf-29 a.k.a. cjc-1293) with the ghrp ipamorelin (not ghrp-2 or ghpr-6). Nobody wants their nut sack turning into that of a 90 yr old mans'. However, if you want to bulk up and don't care if you have raisin nuts, then ghrp-6 is an awesome appetite stimulator. Stick to the ghrh/ipamorelin combo and forget ghrp-6. Ghrp-6 should be used strictly as an appetite increaser and nothing else. For some nice gains, combining igf-1 lr3 with ghrh/ipamorelin will give you 5-10 lbs of rip in 6 weeks with significant fat loss. Works incredible at joint/tendon repair, especially at inj. site.
 
Hi!
Now I have a plan to use CJC-1295 with DAC/ipamorelin/ghrp-6.
GHRP-6 only in the morning, before breakfast for take much calories for growing.
At present time I'm on sust-250, test enant 250 and test prop. Have a plan to use peptides for PCT for around 8weeks.
Dose of peptides will be classic.
How do you think regarding such idea with ipa+ghrp-6 ?

PS Sorry for my English. I'm from Ukraine and English is not my native language.
 
gunR said:
Hi!
Now I have a plan to use CJC-1295 with DAC/ipamorelin/ghrp-6.
GHRP-6 only in the morning, before breakfast for take much calories for growing.
At present time I'm on sust-250, test enant 250 and test prop. Have a plan to use peptides for PCT for around 8weeks.
Dose of peptides will be classic.
How do you think regarding such idea with ipa+ghrp-6 ?

PS Sorry for my English. I'm from Ukraine and English is not my native language.
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DO NOT USE CJC-1295 W/ DAC...DAC has been shown in something like 95-98% of cases to cause severe GH bleed which is very very dangerous. What else are you adding to the peps for PCT as they are not going to suffice for a proper pct?

as for the dosing, to maximize effectiveness you should dose all of them at 100 mcg 3x per day and 2x per day minimum.
 
maakshif said:
DO NOT USE CJC-1295 W/ DAC...DAC has been shown in something like 95-98% of cases to cause severe GH bleed which is very very dangerous. What else are you adding to the peps for PCT as they are not going to suffice for a proper pct?

as for the dosing, to maximize effectiveness you should dose all of them at 100 mcg 3x per day and 2x per day minimum.
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Generally my PCT is not very loaded by tabs or pricks. Just use tamox and it is enough for me.

Regarding cjc w dac: I'm surprized by your warning.
Possible I dont understand you correctly... You mean that GH/IGF will "bleed" in my blood(serum)? Is it not good to have during long time a high level of GH/IGF for better repair of muscles/fat loss?
Or I will lost blood due to unexpected bleedings 8o
You offer to use simple modified GHRH(cjc w/o dac)? Not long-acting version?
 
I think that necessary pulsation will be provided by GHRP-6/ipamorelin...
So during high levels of base GH/IGF there will pulsation after injecting ghrp/ghrh
Or I'm not right?
Regarding "feminized pattern"-you mean that levels of prolactine will increase?
 
GHRP 2 - my opinion I found less of the sides than 6. I found at 300mcg day (100,100,100) of 2 I didn't have nearly as bad appateite issues , I also didn't feel quite as "slinny" kinda dizzy here n there , anyone else notice that big time w/6 ?
Anyone, right now - GHRPp2, 300mcg ed / HGH 3ius ed / IGF 100mcg ed.

Everything is burning like fucking crazy, my cycle's going awesome - CEPT - tore my fucking trap (staggered tear, so not gonna be out as long).
 
maakshif said:
DO NOT USE CJC-1295 W/ DAC...DAC has been shown in something like 95-98% of cases to cause severe GH bleed which is very very dangerous. What else are you adding to the peps for PCT as they are not going to suffice for a proper pct?

as for the dosing, to maximize effectiveness you should dose all of them at 100 mcg 3x per day and 2x per day minimum.
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This is not very dangerous and this is stolen from DATBTRUE's website and every person is going around posting this same thing again and again and misunderstanding what he is saying and running around spreading all kinds of misinformation. There is nothing at all dagerous about CJC-1295, people have used it quite a bit and have experienced little to no side effects at all No you would not want to run this compound year round because it would decrease your body's natural ability to produce IGF and HGH, however, used for short periods of time there is no danger at all and every single study shows levels going right back to baseline shortly after cessation of use. Stop parroting what others are saying. I am so sick and tired of hearing this BS Feminine GH bleed and how it is "not desirable". It cause"s increased levels of GH on a continuous basis, but does not cause spikes, spikes are better as it mimics the body';s natural production, but there is no danger in having elevated levels of gH for short periods (8 weeks) at a time.
 
sandow said:
This is not very dangerous and this is stolen from DATBTRUE's website and every person is going around posting this same thing again and again and misunderstanding what he is saying and running around spreading all kinds of misinformation. There is nothing at all dagerous about CJC-1295, people have used it quite a bit and have experienced little to no side effects at all No you would not want to run this compound year round because it would decrease your body's natural ability to produce IGF and HGH, however, used for short periods of time there is no danger at all and every single study shows levels going right back to baseline shortly after cessation of use. Stop parroting what others are saying. I am so sick and tired of hearing this BS Feminine GH bleed and how it is "not desirable". It cause"s increased levels of GH on a continuous basis, but does not cause spikes, spikes are better as it mimics the body';s natural production, but there is no danger in having elevated levels of gH for short periods (8 weeks) at a time.
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sorry but you are wrong about where I got the info and your info isn't correct, from the studies and research I've read and done...my info came directly from an endocrinologist friend of mine that I work with who also does conducts studies on GH and studies GH peptides himself, which is where I got the "95-98%" that I stated....if he got some of his information from DATBTRUE's or whoever's website then so be it, but I've never read anything by this person...before you go accusing someone of just parroting information from around the internet, it would be a good idea to know the background of the person somewhat, because I have a pretty extensive one when it comes to this lifestyle...from the studies I've read and other research I've done, having a continual high GH for extended periods, basically more than a few days, begins to become counter-productive for the use of peptides....you have to keep some levels "stored" so to speak so you can experience the pulses that the body produces naturally...just because it goes back to baseline after discontinuing use doesn't mean that it is safe or good while you are using it

If using GH, it keeps a continual high level, rather than pulses, but the difference is it shuts your natural production of GH down for approximately 12 hours, much like exogenous AAS shut down natural test production...peptides on the other don't shutdown natural GH production, they only cause a rise or spikes in your natural production
 
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maakshif said:
sorry but you are wrong about where I got the info and your info isn't correct, from the studies and research I've read and done...my info came directly from an endocrinologist friend of mine that I work with who also does conducts studies on GH and studies GH peptides himself, which is where I got the "95-98%" that I stated....if he got some of his information from DATBTRUE's or whoever's website then so be it, but I've never read anything by this person...before you go accusing someone of just parroting information from around the internet, it would be a good idea to know the background of the person somewhat, because I have a pretty extensive one when it comes to this lifestyle...from the studies I've read and other research I've done, having a continual high GH for extended periods, basically more than a few days, begins to become counter-productive for the use of peptides....you have to keep some levels "stored" so to speak so you can experience the pulses that the body produces naturally...just because it goes back to baseline after discontinuing use doesn't mean that it is safe or good while you are using it

If using GH, it keeps a continual high level, rather than pulses, but the difference is it shuts your natural production of GH down for approximately 12 hours, much like exogenous AAS shut down natural test production...peptides on the other don't shutdown natural GH production, they only cause a rise or spikes in your natural production
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Ohh BS. Show me a single study showing that CJC-1295 is dangerous! I can show you several that show that it is not and that all HGH and IGF levels return to baseling shortly after cessation.
 
having a continual high GH for extended periods, basically more than a few days, begins to become counter-productive for the use of peptides
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could you elaborate? I've never heard of high GH levels being a negative thing...
 
as someone who has significant brachial plexus nerve damage (motorcycle accident 8/25/10) as well as damage to surrounding muscle i'm curious if hgh products in general, perhaps cjc-1295 specifically, could help in recovery. i'm still hoping for a spontaneous recovery of function of my right arm/hand which currently has no movement. i'm not looking for miracle cures but opinions on if hgh supplementation might help nerves/muscle rebuild over a 3 month period. thanks for any input.
 
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