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new OP / OC OXYCONTIN

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Witemike

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Ok let me first ask my question then go from there. Purdue has a patent on oxycontin and from my knowledge OC 40 and 80s were the first two pills to be introduced back in the late 90's.(96 or 98 I believe. Maybe even OC 20's but not 100% on that.) Anyway no generics are allowed to be made for like 5 years after that if I'm not mistaken. Now here's the question, being that the newer dosages (15/30/60's) were not introduced until more recently does this mean their formula can stay unchanged until that patent expires? Or was there some type of FDA/DEA mandate that requires all of the OC's to be updated?

Also does anyone know what the OP on the new pills stands for?

Please also discuss the methods for breaking the new formulation here if you don't mind. I've searched and there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive thread devoted just to this. I think someone on here has to come across a good way for extraction.
I read somewhere that you could use alcohol to extract oxymorphone from the timeRX, I know this isn't the same gel mechanism but has anyone tried this method yet or know a definitive reason why that wouldn't work?

Thanks for the input.
 
Purdue will begin shipment of new OC's Nationwide by the third quarter in 2010 (September). After that they will stop distributing and making the old formula of Oxycontin (For the U.S. anyway, Canada and various other countries will still receive OC's--this is due to their version of the FDA not approving the formulation based on an additional ingrediant).
This is for all versions--10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 60, 80-there will be no dosage that is not the OP formula.
I do not know what the new OP stands for. I'm assuming that OC originally stood for OxyContin, and that the new OP stands for something like Oxycodone Purdue, but that's only speculation.
Yes, there is a way to extract the Oxycodone from them. It's not a quick or relatively simple operation however. I'm actually writing a paper which is going to get turned into an e-book or something similar on how to do it.
P.S. No... alcohol based solvents will not 'dose dump', Purdues chemists made sure of that. Primarily because they didn't want an instant release of Oxycodone from the pill if someone drank a couple beers, that could potentially kill them if all the Oxycodone was released if they drank alcohol after ingesting their medication...considering the multitude of lawsuits they've already faced and the ones still in litigation I guess they decided that accidental overdoses wasn't a feature they want to hear reported in the new formula.
 
In first phase of cracking time release OP Formula.

Like I said I'm writing a paper on this, for monetary reasons of course ;)
But even if I do decide to make it freely available, I'm not going to do that until I've done enough trial and error extractions to obtain respectable results for any given extraction process. That is, I want to be able to definitively say for example:
"Take 5 80's, do this, then this, and finally that. Now if you followed the procedure correctly you'll have x.xx grams of 90-95% pure Oxycodone Hydrochloride"
I don't have the results, or even enough trials done to say anything like that yet.
 
any good news?

seperatis said:
Like I said I'm writing a paper on this, for monetary reasons of course ;)
But even if I do decide to make it freely available, I'm not going to do that until I've done enough trial and error extractions to obtain respectable results for any given extraction process. That is, I want to be able to definitively say for example:
"Take 5 80's, do this, then this, and finally that. Now if you followed the procedure correctly you'll have x.xx grams of 90-95% pure Oxycodone Hydrochloride"
I don't have the results, or even enough trials done to say anything like that yet.
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any luck on thoes results? please send a link once you figure it out! i prefer a free ebook out of the kindness of your heart but if not send me info please! i will be checking this every week. actually created an accout just for this one and only reason!!! Thanks.
 
I doubt people will pay for your paper, once a couple people buy it they will just post on the internet for the masses anyway.
 
I dont think he knows how to get shit out of the op hes full of crap or he would be telling every one.If you knew how to do this and your freinds new thay would beat the crap out of you if you didnt tell them. at lest in ct. thay would maybe I live to close to NY
 
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specialrelativity said:
NOthing new(e), here.
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No kidding. Looked all thru the threads on this, nobodies got nothin. And the ones who are on to it dont get the attention because of stupid fucks keep flappin their vagina mouths.
Ive heard of some ppl using MEK but with no solid basis. Best Ive been able to come up with:

take your DPH or other potentiators. Grapefruit juice, alcohol. & a microplaner (a ped egg, ones used for desserts and kitchen): get it nice n fine. sometimes take a blade to it after. split the pill in several piles, the more the better. Id do a 60 in four. Parachute each pile by itself. Id do maybe two at first, eat a small amount of fatty food, parachute the others. enjoy

reason is the new OP gel up to an extreme degree, preventing snorting and banging. when you pop them it all collects into one mass and is time released. when you get it to a fine powder after the microplane and razor blade and then parachute in separate doses youre trying to defeat this. the only thing better than this would be a tek involving a way to inhibit the "plastic-like" effects of the new OP formula.
 
just tell the dr you would like to try opana instedon oxy that gels up a littel but it can still be snorted but not banged
 
Found this on another forum

seems legit

Hey all, I've been a member here for a little while but I dont post very often, Im more of a lurker, & I mod a diff drug site that takes most of my time online. So anyway I am a pm patient and recently started IVing my opana IRs. However when I run out early I usually have to go to my guy and get OCs to tide me over.

Anyway, the other day I got these new fucking OPs and after reading up on here and wasting about 100mg I finally found a ridumentary (albeit not ideal) way to prepare these for IV.
1) Take your OP and chop it into the smallest chunks you can get it with a razor blade (sidenote: despite what has been said I had no trouble grinding them to a fine powder with a hose clamp, but for this I believe small chunks works better).
2) Put your chunks on some aluminum foil (I make mine into a spoon shape).
3) Heat from below just like you would for any crisping/smoking since thats what we're doing.
4) as the fumes come off be sure to inhale them with a straw since they contain some oxy that will be lost otherwise.
5) Once all your chunks have all become lightly carmelized then scrape them off the foil and cook them up in pre warmed water with a large cotton.

The reason I use chunks instead of powder is b/c the powder seemed to burn too fast and just left a black streak although i think it might be better for just straight smoking (the only type of abuse not affected by these new formulations). The chunks on the other hand let you carmelize the outside as a way to heat and destroy the gel matrix in the center without actually affecting the oxy in the center.

The resulting shot looks like a shot of black tar because of the coloring of the burned pill mass. It cant be healthy for you to be shooting this but it does work. Im only willing to do it becasue most of the time i have my opana so this isnt something that im doing every day.
 
rusty_shackelford said:
Anyway, the other day I got these new fucking OPs and after reading up on here and wasting about 100mg I finally found a ridumentary (albeit not ideal) way to prepare these for IV.
1) Take your OP and chop it into the smallest chunks you can get it with a razor blade (sidenote: despite what has been said I had no trouble grinding them to a fine powder with a hose clamp, but for this I believe small chunks works better).
2) Put your chunks on some aluminum foil (I make mine into a spoon shape).
3) Heat from below just like you would for any crisping/smoking since thats what we're doing.
4) as the fumes come off be sure to inhale them with a straw since they contain some oxy that will be lost otherwise.
5) Once all your chunks have all become lightly carmelized then scrape them off the foil and cook them up in pre warmed water with a large cotton.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe the oxycodone is destroyed if heated above a certain temp. I'm not sure what that temp is though. Also, I've heard of people doing this to snort, only to have the powder change back into gel after ingested. I'd be very leery about doing this possibly happening if you're hittin' it. Be careful.

In the original post in the thread, it mentions that the new OC formulation has not been approved in Canada. As such, if I have a legit script and find a mail order pharm in Canada, can I get the old formula OCs via this method?
 
seperatis said:
Like I said I'm writing a paper on this, for monetary reasons of course ;)
But even if I do decide to make it freely available, I'm not going to do that until I've done enough trial and error extractions to obtain respectable results for any given extraction process. That is, I want to be able to definitively say for example:
"Take 5 80's, do this, then this, and finally that. Now if you followed the procedure correctly you'll have x.xx grams of 90-95% pure Oxycodone Hydrochloride"
I don't have the results, or even enough trials done to say anything like that yet.
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ha dude,you don't now shit,if your looking for attention go video yourself playing with your mothers privets,and stop cluttering up this great website with your bullshit!
 
I'm gonna try these with OP 20mg. I really wonder though if it even works, how much of the 20mg will remain. Also, at what temperature fahrenheit does the gel crap become destroyed? I'd think broiling in the oven at a set temperature for length of time is ideal instead of in a microwave with unknown variables. Any who tried this method with microwave/oven and then freezing had great success? Also, did you notice any gel crap in your nose when you snorted it? or any adverse reactions in your body that you felt?
 
As a long time OC / opioid user once the new (OP) formula came out I did a little research and came the conclusion that there's basically no way to avoid the anti-abuse formula....

One time I said screw it and decided to snort one straight up... I had a hard time turning it to powder, a hose clamp didnt work, I didnt have a ped-egg, but I DID have a mortar & pestle, here's what I did.

I used a razor blade to slice the coating off piece by piece, it took 20-30 minutes but it worked pretty well. Then I used the razor blade to cut the pill in half, then cut those pieces in half, and so on and so on until i had 18 or so tiny little pieces. I put them all in the mortar & pestle and began grinding it up. I went at it for a half an hour or more until it was COMPLETELY pulverized into powder. Lined it up and railed an entire 80 in 5 minutes or so and was NODDING almost exactly like I would with the regular formula OC's. It did gel up in my nose and I spent the greater part of the next few hours sniffing back snot/goo but It had almost the exact same rushing high effects of regular OC's.
 
Canada oc

pappie said:
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the oxycodone is destroyed if heated above a certain temp. I'm not sure what that temp is though. Also, I've heard of people doing this to snort, only to have the powder change back into gel after ingested. I'd be very leery about doing this possibly happening if you're hittin' it. Be careful.

In the original post in the thread, it mentions that the new OC formulation has not been approved in Canada. As such, if I have a legit script and find a mail order pharm in Canada, can I get the old formula OCs via this method?
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I don't think it is the same exact American version you get from Canada, but they are smokable, sortable, and I assume injectible (although I don't know the details on that end) they have CND imprinted on the side that read oc in the US. They taste like shit. Too harsh to snort. Pratically numbs your throat when smoking. Be weary of them, cuz people will try to charger top dollar because they are 'abusable'
-but they suck! Not worth much more than what you would pay for an op these days.
 
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