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PepperSocks said:
I'd say it happens with all psychedelics. That cold come-up tension that makes you shiver, your muscles tense up, your bowels go to water, you feel like you're gonna puke, your head feels strange.

I'd have to say it's general psychedelic come-up side effects.

I haven't thought much about exact receptors involved. Likely adrenergic receptors for the coldness (vasoconstriction) and muscle tension (fight/flight response). Your body is getting ready to launch a defense against something that's infiltrating your mind (or something to that effect).

Some people seem to get this more from 2C's for some reason; personally I get it more from tryptamines. Pharmacologically I would think phenethylamines would be more likely to be direct agonists at adrenergic receptors (or catecholamine releasers) and thus would more strongly produce fight/flight type effects.

Tryptamines on the other hand for me anyways, give me more of a psychological scare, and it's my body that launches it's own fight/flight response with endogenous catecholamines.
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Y'know, you make good points Socks. Makes sense to me.

Thanks <3
 
Delta-9-THC said:
Hey PD. I just found me some good K and I actually have a decent amount to experiment with so I'm psyched about that. I've never had more than 1 gram to play with at a time. Interestingly it doesn't come in vials but is just all nice crystals bagged up.

Definitely some of the best K I've ever had though. I found it outside of a Booka Shade show. I was coming down off some good molly and I spent the rest of the night more K'd out then I'd ever been.

There were multiple times in which I had to remind myself that I was in a safe place just sitting in my apartment. I would completely forget what and where I am. Great stuff. Perfect way to end the night. Can't wait to combine it with some psychedelics though my previous trip with L+K+MDMA was mind blowing.. Probably gonna go with 4-aco-dmt or maybe some more L this time.

Just did a tiny bump and puffin on a hookah right now. I'll probably find someway to mix this into my Halloween fun this weekend. What are other's plans for this holiday?
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how was boookkaaaaa?
 
4-FA agrees with me quite nicely so far :) Tinglies and chest glow, talkative and alert. I was expecting something more obviously intoxicating from the several times I read this being compared to methylone, and while I see the similarities, it's not a very precise comparison. Out of everything I've tried, this reminds me most of when I first came across ephedrine minithin tablets and took like 8 my first time (which for me was awesome--I never had the nasty experience many described with ephedrine, it always was good for me for the most part).

I'm just 2 hours into it so far...

I just went to pick up pizzas, which I am totally un-hungry for at the moment. I also picked up some TUMS at the deli and while on line, the guy behind me starts talking to the the young cashier dude waiting on me, and says,"Hey man, where you been? I haven't heard from you. I was wondering...I have something great, something awesome for you to bring to your concert..." and there's a pause..."yeah veronica made brownies!" Meanwhile the line behind me was occupied mostly my Mother looking type women, probably at least one of which was a friend of the cashier's mom. Hahaha. I wanted to say something but the kid was already super red faced about it lol
 
I'm really looking into 4-FA. I might pick some up and use it for job hunting. I might as well use it productively instead of sitting around my house all spun. Its far too boring here for that.
How would you (or anybody) rate 4-FA vs methamp or adderall? I've never had d-amp.
 
derp
ive been sleeping all day...
when they go to sleep i is gon whip out the foil and smoke that blend i has yo.
im not sure if i want to go back to the mitsubishi..
 
I usually just go into the bathroom and take my hits. The smell isnt that bad as far as I can tell.

I really need to move out, although its really not that bad. My parents dont mind me smoking pot or taking psychedelics. I just feel more inhibited at home than anywhere else.
 
PepperSocks said:
Benzos are nice though. I'd have to say that being on a benzo isn't being sober though.
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Its all in how you look at it. I don't get a "high" off of ANY benzo at any dose because my benzodiazepine receptors are used to them. Best effect I'll get is get knocked out which is kind of lame. I have been on them since 2004.

If I stop taking my benzos, I run a high risk of seizure and death because of my doses (lets face it - 40mg of Valium a day is a lot, my insurance wouldn't cover it when my doc was prescribing me 5mg pills so now I'm stuck with the 10s which everyone knows generics aren't usually distributed well so who knows what happens when I start cutting doses).

At least there is a reward with opiates. Benzos are a diminishing return more and more - opiates, no matter how high your tolerance goes, there will be a reward - it is not the same with benzos. Once you have been on them long enough for GABA to get down-regulated, you won't get a euphoria from them at all - high doses will just make you black out, pass out, or both.

And my main reason for staying "sober" is so I can have my monoamines not getting messed with before I start trials with 5-Methyl-MDA - GABA is not a monoamine so therefore for all intents and purposes I am still sober. :p :p :p :p :p
 
If you're actually taking benzos for anxiety, at a reasonable amount, being on them is more sober than not. ;)

Otherwise, tis be drugs.
 
I'm doing alright, been a bit all over the place, but ya just gotta keep trekkin' along. Yourself?

I heard they were working on material, I have no idea when it's going to be done. Probably not too soon, honestly, because the next Tool album HAS TO (contract reasons) come out next year. I would be pumped to see them live... but yay! :)

Seeing Tool this summer was the most amazing experience of my entire life. For a lot of reasons.

I really want to get the words "LET GO" inked on me somewhere... but I can' decide where. I want it to be somewhere I can see. Maybe on my wrist, but I don't like that... thinking on my ring finger, in a symbolic sort of way. =)


Godspeed is going on tour! Anyone excited as hell about that? :D
 
godspeed?
i aint never herd of em
but if i had a band id call it
goodspeed
^i think i remember you
you used to dxm yea?
 
I'm not here all the time, I need to separate myself from the internet in order to live my life... but occasionally I come by and drop off love. Kind of fun to think about all the people wishing us love ;)

So, hello to you, beautiful ;)

Godspeed! You Black Emperor... not sure if it's your type, but they're amazing. One of those bands that has the super long songs (they're post-rock), so I'll youtube you to a short one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vRrGCVlMHk

Though I totally recommend Antennas to Heaven =)

Can someone else please warn the kid who's thinking of re-dosing on 2cb that it's probably a bad idea? God, I'm the mom of PD... but redosing is tricky, and he doesn't want to be as high as the total of the dose... and that's always a risk, especially considering what he suggested dosing.
 
LSDMDMA&8931360 said:
^i think i remember you
you used to dxm yea?
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lol
ya a lot.
i was gone for a bit cause no net, and tomorrow im moving back to NC, usa
so i cant wait to get there, i wanted to check this place and see how everyone is
i missed this place, i wasnt an avid poster on every topic but dammit i never
enjoyed a forum or its people quite like i have here :x

and once my vendor gets some more maybe i can post some exp from my perspective on some 2c-e and 5-meo-dmt x:

can't wait for re-stock/move. :x also i know some peeps who got a shroom farm
there so oh yes, ill be a happy one.
but like now im all on some opiates (hydrocodone) cause a broken metacarpol xD

@Flarestar i know how that is, having to be away n such then thinking about the peoples here

i do plan to be active but man the past month or two i was kinda forced away, def not by choice xD


also i am getting more avid in producing good sounds and loops, and plan to get my mixing skills even more in depth so maybe one day i'll have some music to share with all the people here :]

thats a goal for me ^^
 
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Bardo5 said:
I usually just go into the bathroom and take my hits. The smell isnt that bad as far as I can tell.

I really need to move out, although its really not that bad. My parents dont mind me smoking pot or taking psychedelics. I just feel more inhibited at home than anywhere else.
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Man, ain't that the truth. Being at home with your parents no matter how independent you are and free to come and go as you please and get as high as you please, you still feel the ever watchful essence of your parents.

A form of psychological prison I'd say.
 
Music is wonderful, but there's a lot of other things in the world too.

I say this just because a lot of people I know/used to know don't have lives, just sit around and do drugs, and work with music... sadly, sitting around and being creative isn't gonna pay the bills. I think it's important to also have other things in your life. There's so many ways to make the world a better place. Not to bash your goal, good luck, and congrats on improvement! More so, you have potential to do many things, and it'd be a terrible thing to waste.
 
Flarestar89 said:
Music is wonderful, but there's a lot of other things in the world too.

I say this just because a lot of people I know/used to know don't have lives, just sit around and do drugs, and work with music... sadly, sitting around and being creative isn't gonna pay the bills. I think it's important to also have other things in your life. There's so many ways to make the world a better place. Not to bash your goal, good luck, and congrats on improvement! More so, you have potential to do many things, and it'd be a terrible thing to waste.
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Yeah I know too many people like this and admitted I used to be one of them, but I then had a huge change in my life, and now drugs and music is my hobby where as my family and making money are the important things! XD
Cause sitting around being high doesn't pay the bills indeed. :D
Unless you somehow made money from that >_> *dreams on*
 
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