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I used to be a skinny kid, but I started eating more and working out a few years ago and I became a pretty fit lookin guy and it was where I wanted to be at. Up until now I forgot that body actually took some effort and now it's all gone. Most of the muscle I put on, everything. When I take my shirt off now I don't even find it appealing, I loved my body more than anything else about me :(

Staying around the same weight these past few years after putting it on hasn't been too bad, but recently it's just been vanishing even when I tried to eat and work out more. Now I've got a shit ton of work ahead of me, have to change my diet, exercise, and drug habits. Drugs are ruining my body, I already have changes in facial features from previous amp use and this is just too much. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

After this binge ends I will hopefully get on the right track and improve my life in all ways not just this. It isn't even mainly about the weight, it's the lack of discipline and productivity. I really hope this isn't just the amp talking, I want change. I'll make it happen.
 
Yeah, drug/alcohol can ruin your body, your mind and your soul.......
When yo begin to put more of your energy into your addiction than yourself, there will be nothing positive coming out of it , imo.
Well, keep us post on what you decide to do!
I wish you lots of luck!
 
Different choice of drug is about the only thing that separates us. You said you have a lot work ahead of you, and you do, but it would be better to chop-it-up rather than eating it all at once.
 
Finally done with school for the day... I'd look up every so often and realize the teacher was still talking, he gets so exciteful too it's kinda funny.

I spent all day (and yesterday) cramming the shit in my head cause I was behind and we have a quiz every week. Ended up not being able to finish all my problems cause he only gives us like 5 minutes and I'm a bit out of it, it really bothers me how little time we get. Didn't even have half the shit I studied on it either, at least I know the shit now I guess...

Starting to come down, feelin kinda stressed cause I wanted to be caught up in my other class as well, but still got to do that :-\ Meh I'm just being a bitch. There were literally over 50 cop cars I drove by on the way home (it's nearly an hour drive) and there was construction shit and all sorts of crap, so many flashing lights all over in the dark.
 
Yeah, drug/alcohol can ruin your body, your mind and your soul.......
When yo begin to put more of your energy into your addiction than yourself, there will be nothing positive coming out of it , imo.
Well, keep us post on what you decide to do!

too much truth spoken here ...

I feel I am at the end of ME as I know it .. I need to quit my unhealthy lifestyle Yesterday but I continue to live like there's no Tomorrow.
Funny thing, I've always looked the part even when living successfully .. only lately are all indicators approaching my true value of zero, or so I fear, as my Life (physical and social) both deteriorate.

i'm older and in worse shape than at any point of adulthood. sure wasn't using&abusing drugs the last time i was this weak either.
no time to contemplate the cumulative damage when i can't even achieve total sobriety & good health for long.
 
Yeah i know what you mean. Im 28 and not in bad shape i guess but i used to be in alot better shape. Too much smoking, various illnesses and to a lesser extent drugs have kinda worn me down. I lost a fair bit of weight over the spring and summer and i havent gained it back yet. Id say i must have lost a good 10LBS when i had pneumonia the spring and the various types of pain i get also diminished my appetite. And sadly for me im one of the few people that has trouble keeping weight on which i will probably be thankful for in years to come :\

So yes i don't like being as skinny as i am but i probably worry way too much. Id much rather be bulked up like i was a few years ago but that takes a hell of alot of work. It's almost impossible to stay that fit while still smoking ciggs too.
 
I'm 39 and in the best physical shape I've been in since I was 17 (except I need to quit smoking cigs... :|)

I have a naturally slight frame and am a half-inch shy of 6'. I went to the doctor last week and weighed in at 146 pounds, with sandals on.

I'm actually probably too thin, but I feel great. :)
 
I've always been skinny and it doesn't bother me, sometimes I make fun of my friends who take their workout/exercise/health regimens too seriously. I tell them they're just addicted to their staying healthy routines. Then I offer to trade all my vitamins and protein shakes for whatever drugs they might have. (the Irony of it all, I take drugs,((more moderately than years past)) but still try and eat healthy, take a walk most days, take vitamins and drink protein shakes religously)

I think it's all about balance, finding what you want and staying focused. Hopefully people want more than a perfectly toned body and great abs. Living in Southern California it just gets ridiculous at times.
 
I'm 39 and in the best physical shape I've been in since I was 17 (except I need to quit smoking cigs... :|)

I have a naturally slight frame and am a half-inch shy of 6'. I went to the doctor last week and weighed in at 146 pounds, with sandals on.

I'm actually probably too thin, but I feel great. :)

Damn your alot taller then i am. I am only about maybe 5'9 or whatever and maybe 165-170lbs. So yeah im not as skinny as you are but it's abit thin for me.
 
You need to simply define your priorities and apply them to your life.

What is more important to you? (you don't have to answer anywhere but in your own head)
Using drugs, or being physically fit/healty?

Go over the 'benefits' that drugs provide you, along with the consequences (which are usually more ample) and decide if the difference is more positive or negative in your life.

You have to first establish and believe that drugs are 100% undeniably making your life worse, before you can really move on to ridding them from your lifestyle. And the good news is the expecation of being physically fit off drugs in the future can help motivate you a lot now in getting off them.

I too use to be skinny when I was younger (like 17) and got even skinnier when I started abusing speed. If I showed you my first drivers license I look like Kevin Bacon in that Machinist movie... basically anorexic.
After I got off speed I had 5 years to build my body, learn about diet, and put a lot of work into my appearance. I had a 6 pack, wasn't too big nor too small, just a nice average size on an ultra lean figure. I was basically ripped to shreds a few years ago.

When I picked up my opiate habit I was able to maintain my workout intensity and overall diet for about the first 6 months. But the longer I was on drugs the more and more stressful going to the gym and eating right became for me.

Another thing I like about my physique was the crazy amount of pussy I use to get lol. I'm a short guy, and women don't tend to go for short guys, but as far as I was able to take my body, women didn't seem to care anymore lol. That was when I learned its not really height they're attracted to, but the false sense of security and protection from taller guys. A shorter guy whos in excellent shape can provide that same false sense of security.
Not to mention it made me confident enough to also approach them in the first place.

Now, I have put on weight, and although I'm not "fat" by societies means, I consider myself a fat as fuck just in comparison to how I use to look. So its hard to shake the feeling of always feeling fat now.
If I was abusing speed instead of opiates right now, I'd be rail thin just like you. But opiates tend to make me softer looking, which is whats going on now.

I think about it everyday basically, how badly I just wanna be healthy and back in the gym. But I've largely shut that priority off untill I'm able to get off drugs, and shut off that priority first.
You CAN get back in shape. It DOES take effort, but the best part is you've already learned a lot through trial and error.
It took me about 2 years to look how I did before, but the older/wiser I get I now realize I could get that same look in only 9 months or so. Cause I don't have to make all the mistakes I made in my diet the first time around.

So don't think you're that far behind. I DO suggest though that you stop the drugs if being in shape is that high a priority for you.
And don't fantasize too much about it, sometimes when you dream too much about 1 thing you subconciously tell your mind you can't have it, which makes it harder to actually get.

Like when I tend to go off in my mind and daydream about banging Meghan Fox. Its exciting to think about, but I'm really telling my mind "the reason I need to dream about it is cause its never gonna happen". Which is another reason its usually not good to fantasize about being clean either. It creates an odd sort of prophecy where it always remains just a dream.

G/luck bro you just gotta be patient and a little more deliberate with your lifestyle. If you want it bad enough I'm sure you'll get it again, same as I will. =]
 
You need to simply define your priorities and apply them to your life.

What is more important to you? (you don't have to answer anywhere but in your own head)
Using drugs, or being physically fit/healty?

Go over the 'benefits' that drugs provide you, along with the consequences (which are usually more ample) and decide if the difference is more positive or negative in your life.

...

I too use to be skinny when I was younger (like 17) and got even skinnier when I started abusing speed. If I showed you my first drivers license I look like Kevin Bacon in that Machinist movie... basically anorexic.


The problem with such a cost/benefit analysis is the ease in which the addict (or drug enthusiast) can rationalize continued use.
I consider myself health-conscious, but negative health effects alone weren't enough to convince me to get clean. Only (physical and mental) health + wealth + societal paranoia concerns finally outweighed my desire to keep using.

Oh and that's Christian Bale in The Machinist ;)

At 6'3 / 135 lbs (actually I've probably lost a few this summer ...) I'm only a bit meatier than Bale's character in that movie.
Sometimes I realize I need to gain weight, but other times I worry about doing so, and am grateful for being so thin. Whatev.
 
I feel ya man. The most i've weighed was 140 about 4 years ago. I lost 5 pounds after i caught mono and have stayed about there since. I would say the drug abuse is the main factor in not gaining weight back, personally. Opiates KILL my appetite. Oh and i'm 5'11" btw.
 
Same type of story - - 5'10" and when I was smoking crack more than once a week went down from 140 to 128 - - now cut back to 3 or so time a month with rock and back up to 142. I want to be 150. Cutting back on crack and being at 142 - - I feel really great. Don't feel too skinny or unhealthy at all.
 
Just work on eating well every day, utilize whey protein, exercise regularly, and try to stop taking amphetamines.

Get a mp3 player too, this way you get to listen to all of your favorite music while working out. This helps reinforce exercise as a positive experience. :)
 
I'm also somebody that easily drops weight and needs to remain conscious in order to avoid getting to skinny. I'm 5'11" and was down to about 125 pounds due to digestive issues, no drugs at all. Now I'm back up to around 170 and feeling much better. Eating regular meals had to become a rule for me - no skipping breakfast, having a snack instead, etc. If I wake up and I'm not hungry I eat anyways.

Especially if you are using stims it is important to eat regardless of hunger levels. My problem was more digestive issues, so I would lose my appetite. If your appetite is being affected by other variables (i.e. amphetamine use), then it doesn't need to be your guide to when to eat.

Last year I looked anorexic and now I'm completely different. Food and exercise are miracles - it sounds simple but they work :)
 
I think ideally I'd like to be around 170, don't really know for sure though. I've never weighed that much before, most I've ever weighed was like 160 when I actually worked out a bit every day and stayed on the eat as much as I can diet.

I have been making sure to work out at least a little bit every day, but I haven't been doing a very good job with the eating.
 
haven't been doing a very good job with the eating.

Thats funny you mention that because lately with getting off opiates I notice I've been swinging back and forth with my diet.

Its superannoying because about 3 months ago I was eating PERFECTLY, 6 meals a day, oats/egg whites in the morning, chicken/carbs fish/yams etc etc all throughout the day. Counting calories, my macros/micros were right on point... yet I was slacking in the gym. Only getting there maybe 3 days a week, but STILL I was noticing great improvements.

I did that for 3-4 weeks, then started going to the gym more often.. and WTF, then I start eating like a pig. I'm doing more cardio at the gym, lifting harder, but then I'm randomly getting Mickey D's, those insanely addictive mcchicken sandwiches, fried chicken, french fries, pizza, food I KNOW I should NOT be eating. I do that for another few weeks, notice I'm bloated and looking soft.. then stop working out all together.

That process for w/e reason happens a lot while I'm on drugs. And I'm thinking its because I have so many conflicting priorities in my life. I'm not sure if this applies to you but it IS very much a bitch staying in shape. It takes so much work and dedication sometimes that I ask myself "why am I always doing this", but then I realize I have some deepseeded insecurities. Like I have a tiny tiny tummy right now, most people would consider me thin, but I play with it all day, grabbing the fat and pulling on it (like it'll come off or something lol). I look at it with such a hate and bitterness it kind of shocks me in a way. Like if I'm this hostile about having fat on my body how does that not turn into a bias against fat people? Idk... I'm more or less ranting at this point but it sucks bro. I prob have more hangups about the way I look then anyone I know, and I'm a guy too so it makes it that much less acceptable in society.
 
try not to be such a slave to the numbers.

instead, focus on the part of your body that needs improvement ("need a little weight there, definition here, etc") and work on that.

achieving a certain weight-rating isn't a good thing when trying to just be "healthy". and drugs aren't either.... especially a lot of anti-depressants.

my normal weight is around 145lb and 6'3".... according to most body-mass indexes I know, I should be around 170-180. But I just can't keep that kind of bulk healthily. At fighting weight, I was at 170, but couldn't gain another pound. And it took 1-1/2hrs of hard PT and voracious eating to hit that. Once I stopped, I went right back to 145ish incredibly fast.
 
On a related note... After living with a guy who used weight gain milkshakes daily for a few months, and seeing the difference it made to him, I've decided to try it myself. Obviously I also go to the gym and do weights/cardio stuff whenever I use it, but I still have a few niggling doubts. Just how unhealthy is it to take this stuff? Could it fuck me up? I've been using it for about three weeks now and gained about two maybe three kilos. Is that too much?
 
On a related note... After living with a guy who used weight gain milkshakes daily for a few months, and seeing the difference it made to him, I've decided to try it myself. Obviously I also go to the gym and do weights/cardio stuff whenever I use it, but I still have a few niggling doubts. Just how unhealthy is it to take this stuff? Could it fuck me up? I've been using it for about three weeks now and gained about two maybe three kilos. Is that too much?

depends on the type of shake you're drinking, and how you focus your workouts. Some shakes are for bulk alone, and others are aimed at repairing muscles & developing them.

as long as you're working-out and not overdoing the shakes, you'll be fine. please note though; those shakes aren't nutrition replacements (generally), they're for supplementation along with a healthy diet.

Their ultimate value is debated, but if they're used on the level they *can* work decently.
 
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