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Legal smokes(synthetic cannabinoids)

Yes, it is a secret. Show me where the ingredients list is for any Spice, K2, etc. product?

cegli and I are not suggesting that JWH-018 is illegal or should be illegal. However, "smoking blends" are and should be illegal. They're like "ecstasy pills", easily adulterated, unmeasured, and unspecified ingredients packaged in a form which does nothing but cause harm or potential for harm.
 
Coolio said:
Yes, it is a secret. Show me where the ingredients list is for any Spice, K2, etc. product?

cegli and I are not suggesting that JWH-018 is illegal or should be illegal. However, "smoking blends" are and should be illegal. They're like "ecstasy pills", easily adulterated, unmeasured, and unspecified ingredients packaged in a form which does nothing but cause harm or potential for harm.
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I must have missed something about them being illegal. What law are you breaking by buying/selling/possesing one of these blends? It was my understanding these blends are sold as incense and not human consumption.

These blends are available at most gas stations around Jersey City, and pretty much any head shop in NYC.. Also, they are available from thousands of vendors online, sold on eBay, Amazon. I am sure you are right and everyone is just breaking the law hardcore as fuck.

But at the moment, I cant buy weed at any local stores, or off the internet for that matter, so I hope things stay "illegal" and these blends stay around.

Yes we know you smoke the pure shit. I don't have a accurate scale, and enjoy sitting back smoking a big blunt, so these blends are perfect..pre-made..taste decent.. I guess I have to consider my self lucky that I have never been in harms way having to dial 911 cause I smoked too much

But the fact of the matter is, jwh is unscheduled, these blends are obviously very popular (big $ makers) and not going anywhere. Pleading for these blends to be made illegal is basically asking for the jwh's to be scheduled.

Do you really the government would make the blends illegal and regulate them strictly (like they do weed or something) and jwh 0xx would remain legal and you could just buy grams of the powder off the net whenever you wanted..where the risk of overdose is much greater unless you have a scale?
 
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They are obviously sold for human consumption, usually in the same type of packaging used for salvia divinorum. There's no legitimate reason to add psychoactive cannabinoids to incense, other than from the FDA's point of view to turn the product into a drug.
 
Hi
Has the static left you and can you explain were and when you see the static?
Thanks.
Garret
 
Hi
I am aware of the eye floaters. I am sure these were caused by stress. I have no static and I was told that I do not have HPPD. Have your eye floaters improved? How did I just notice them 4 months after I quit everything? I know I was very stressed at the time,
 
garret you might check out the link I posted above-its got some new posts on it with help suggestions,etc.
 
Garret,
i've been reading some of your posts on your experiences since quitting smoking. I smoked synthetic smoking blends for 6 months and the last time i smoked i had a complete panic attack similiar to the one you were describing. After that i decided to stop. A week went by and i felt fine. On the 7th day, i felt extremely tired and then all of a sudden, the same feelings that were happening during my panic attack came back to me, it almost felt like i was really high again without even smoking. Anyways, i had really bad anxiety, internal unrest, blurred vision, and an inability to think clearly for months after. These symptems were very apparent for about a month then started to decrease as time went on. It's been four months and the only symptom that remains is my blurred vision, and sometime the others symptoms come back but much more mild and only about once a week. Everything seems to be getting better and it just seems like it will take time to fully recover. However, it is very frustrating and takes WAY longer than expected. Anyways, get back to me about the eye floater thing or any other ways youve been feeling because im interested to know if they have been getting better or worse.
 
Coolio said:
This seems to be a recurring theme. People have a cannabinoid-induced panic attack, then bring that panic back with them to everyday reality for days, weeks, or months.
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I have had a panic attack on too much Spice max once and I am a heavy weed smoker that never had this happen before. It didnt last more than an hour or so but still was a shock it goes to show that you have to be careful with these synth'ed cannabinoids cause you can smoke many mg's of pure stuff in one cone my mistake. This is due to it being mixed in some herbal blend.
 
^^ Hi drug FUCKED, this thread (and The Dark Side in general) is a place for discussing the negative and damaging aspects of drug use/abuse, and recovery as such.

The forums you're looking for in which you can discuss the constituents and recreational use of synthetic cannabinoids are Cannabis Discussion and Psychedelic Drugs.

Oh, and I love your "location" by the way ;)
Classic Simpsons <3
 
Azo's post was good, reminds me of some generic pharmaceuticals. Generics only have to be between 80% - 120% of the active. Also there can be problems with the active's distribution throughout the tablet - all on one side, etc. This can be a problem if you want to break a tablet in half. (sorry this is straying a bit off topic, the relevence is in the shoddy manufacturing and Q& A practices).

I persionally would not touch any of the "legal high" products - if I want to get high, I would just go with the canabis, I don't trust the companies out there for the reasons stated above.

I hope the original poster gets better, probably only time away from all subtances will clean things out.

Best of luck!
 
Guys go for magic gold or sokochu or something similar It's had good reviews as smoking blends, what makes me (lol) for real are the brands "super skunk" £2.99 for 25g (lol)
 
Hi Erinseye, this is not really an appropriate place to enquire about which synth cannabinoids to use. This is a thread for support and advice for people who have had problems after smoking synthetic cannabinoid products.

There are multiple threads over in Cannabis Discussion about synthetic cannabinoids, check those out :)
 
I know a guy who had some terrible reaction to a synthetic blend and is having trouble regaining cognitive function after a week long coma....made the news 'n stuff.
 
gorilla-arms said:
Synthetic canabanoids are not being banned for no reason, im not surprised of your reaction i feel sorry for you i do, but i think too many people have smoked anything without checking it out first
its only recently it seems people are starting to care about it given all the medical cases surrounding them,

Anyway glad you feeling better not that i suggest trying again but next time try one without a canabanoid there are only few i think but one i enjoy smoking myself is called kapow because i know my body rejects the synthetic s*** and is fine for me, its unfortunate the damage synthetic's have done
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I also had a bad reaction to Synthetics not keen on touching them again interesting to see you have tried Kapow its great seeing as it's doesn't have any synthetics in it i didn't believe the buzz would be any good without synthetics but it had me on my arse but all was very chillaxed!
 
Now, im against all these "new" internet drugs. I think they cause great harm.
But anyway, my brother smoked regular hash and had a bad reaktion one time.
Found him after his friends had called me and said my brother was fucked up and needed help.

He was very drunk and intoxicated with THC.
He suffered depersonalization for some months but it finally went away or he recovered from it all.

What I wanna say is give it some time..
 
Could be macular degeneration, Have you always had the floaters, to some degree? Have you had some kind of ocular surgery?? I had LASIK on both my eyes, a few years ago, had better-than-perfect vision for a while (20/15), but theres's been soe mild deterioration since then, which I was warned to expect. My surgeon told me I would almost certainly need reading glasses by age 40 (I'm 39 now),
 
DeLee said:
Now, im against all these "new" internet drugs. I think they cause great harm.
But anyway, my brother smoked regular hash and had a bad reaktion one time.
Found him after his friends had called me and said my brother was fucked up and needed help.

He was very drunk and intoxicated with THC.
He suffered depersonalization for some months but it finally went away or he recovered from it all.

What I wanna say is give it some time..
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nice start off there with the new internet drugs causing harm. yet you go on to mention far more dangerous that have directly and indirectly killed and hurt millions!
i take legal high from time to time on and off for few years, never touched illegal shit nor do i go overboard on alcohol but i enjoy what and how i use and have never been fucked up nor had an overly bad reaction.
 
jazzyblues said:
nice start off there with the new internet drugs causing harm. yet you go on to mention far more dangerous that have directly and indirectly killed and hurt millions!
i take legal high from time to time on and off for few years, never touched illegal shit nor do i go overboard on alcohol but i enjoy what and how i use and have never been fucked up nor had an overly bad reaction.
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I'm really glad to hear that you haven't had any bad experiences with any of the new synthetic cannabinoid products available these days, but the fact of the matter is that if they can definitely cause some psychlogical damage if taken by some indivduals. And it doesn't even have to be taken in large doses, some people have reported negative side effects e.g. paranoia, anxiety, panic attacks etc, with just a single dose. It's just like any other psychoactive substance, and should be treated with due care accordingly.
 
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