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is there a comprehensive list of all legal psychedelics in the uk?

liquidaddiction

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i have recently taken an interest in compiling a collection of all the legal psychedelic compounds in the uk, is there a list available all in one place? Now i have the opportunity to do this in one go im sort of on the hunt for a shopping list. any help would be amazing.

L
 
No. There isn't a comprehensive list of all psychedelics, period. New ones are being discovered all the time. Unless you are absurdly wealthy, there's pretty much no chance of collecting "all" of even the well-known ones. There are hundreds and some are very obscure and would require you to order a custom lab synthesis.

Why not research specific psychedelics and acquire the ones you actually want to try? You'll get a lot more out of psychedelics picking a few and exploring them deeply than with this "gotta catch em all" type thinking.
 
Well he's really just looking for compounds that are known legal in the UK at this time... which there aren't too terribly many...

AMT
5-IAI
MDAT
MDAI
MMAI
6-APB

Those are the ones that are most common though from what I've heard, all of them but AMT are trash. I can PERSONALLY tell you AMT is not trash. At all.
 
The 2C-*-FLY series are legal in the UK. 2C-B-FLY, 2C-T-7-FLY, etc. They've gotten rare after the Bromo-DragonFLY catastrophe gave them a bad reputation, and I haven't seen them sold anywhere in a while. Also, cacti are legal in the UK, but they won't grow outside there (too wet/cold).

Well he's really just looking for compounds that are known legal in the UK at this time... which there aren't too terribly many...

AMT
5-IAI
MDAT
MDAI
MMAI
6-APB

Those are the ones that are most common though from what I've heard, all of them but AMT are trash. I can PERSONALLY tell you AMT is not trash. At all.
AMT is the only psychedelic in the list, though 6-APB is kinda close.
 
^^^

I forgot how restrictive British laws are re: psychedelic RCs, but I'm pretty sure there are still a huge number of obscure phenethylamines that aren't banned (there's a clause that bans anything derived in certain ways from tryptamine, but last I checked there's no such clause for PEA derivatives, just a list of specific PEAs that are banned).

edit: atara beat me to the punch about PEAs.
 
thanks a lot, i currently have 100mg of AMT and after trying that im set on starting on a bit of a journey. Im really interested to try the 2c-x's and dmt analogues as well after doing a bit of research into those to. I have a a slight worry about the state of my heart so I guess it would be sensible to get that checked before i start trying too many things. the bromo dragonfly thing scares the crap out of me and i only have a mg scale so wouldn't be confident in my ability to accurately control dose with something in that range currently. thanks to solistus for the advice on maybe getting well acquainted with a few different compounds first. I would love to try a few different dissociatives as well as i love the k hole but after hearing about what happened to f+b with the pcp analogues that seems a little scary also.

Thanks

L
 
Along with a tryptamine clause which AMT is exempt due to the substitution not being on the nitrogen atom, there is also a phenethylamine clause.

From erowid:

Phenethylamines#
Regarding phenethylamines, as of Febuary 2002 every single PEA described in PiHKAl as well as many variations not listed in PiHKAL are illegal in the UK because of the following additions to the law. A new catch-all phenethylamine clause which covers most known active PEA's. In particular this clause covers mescaline analogues, DOx, 2C-x, 2C-T-x, MMDA analogues, MDMA analogues TMA's and many others as well. the clause is:

"any compound (not being methoxyphenamine or a compound for the time being specified in sub-paragraph (a) above) structurally derived from phenethylamine, an N-alkylphenethylamine, alpha-methylphenethylamine, an N-alkyl-alpha-methylphenethylamine, alpha-ethylphenethylamine, or an N-alkyl-alpha-ethylphenethylamine by substitution in the ring to any extent with alkyl, alkoxy, alkylenedioxy or halide substitutents, whether or not further substituted in the ring by one or more other univalent substituents;"

The law includes a systematic explicit addition of every single PEA's found in PiHKAL that isn't covered by the aforementioned clause on the list of class A drugs.

In particular:
PEA substituted on the nitrogen of the sidechain with a subsituent other than alkyl (FLEA & the HOTs, MDAL, etc...)
PEA's substituted on the beta carbon (all the BOx,etc...)
PEA's with divalent substituents on the benzene ring (F-22, 2C-G-x,etc...)
Phentermine derivates
This revision has been skillfully designed so that not a single item of PiHKAL can escape to the law. In any case all the PEAs on the RC market are all covered by the catch all clause.

and tryptamines:

(b) any compound...structurally derived from tryptamine or from a ring-hydroxy tryptamine by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the sidechain with one or more alkyl substituents but with no other substituent.

and now the cathinone clause. The UK has some of the most restrictive laws regarding psychedelics. If you consider 4-MeO-PCP a psychedelic, it is legal in the UK, as well as 5-MeO-DALT so you're left with:

6-APB (accounts indicate it is not as psychedelic as MDA)
AMT
5-MeO-DALT
4-MeO-PCP

and then I guess there are some plants you can order that are not illegal to possess but probably illegal to prepare such as:

San Pedro/Peruvian Torch (extract mescaline)
Mimosa Hostilis (extract DMT)
HBWR/Morning Glory seeds (LSA)
aminita muscaria (dissociative muscimol and ibotenic acid)

and I guess some of David Nichols post-PiHKAL phenethylamines such as the FLY series may not be covered as the phenethylamine clause was designed to schedule all of the chemicals specifically listed in PiHKAL but I've rarely noticed there availability, except for 2C-B-FLY and Bromo-DragonFLY

salvia probably still legal?
 
and then I guess there are some plants you can order that are not illegal to possess but probably illegal to prepare such as:

San Pedro/Peruvian Torch (extract mescaline)
Mimosa Hostilis (extract DMT)
HBWR/Morning Glory seeds (LSA)
aminita muscaria (dissociative muscimol and ibotenic acid)

You can add Peyote itself to that list. Peyote is not illegal to grow in the UK, however cuttings etc are illegal iirc, but if you bought some live buttons, that's legal.
 
Yeh, salvia is a obviously legal, it's one of the most powerful things out there. I guess the plant material doesn't really count as the end product after extraction is still illegal. Shrooms are still illegal to possess (knowingly) but you're allowed to sit down and look at them... (never really got what the point was but it's not really enforced with great enthusiasm).
 
it seemed a sensible starting point as I know i can get hold of them without too many problems. Also no danger of being arrested for their possession. I had no idea that the Uk laws were so restrictive though, i thought there would be a few other interesting ones that would be legal. I have heard mixed reports on 5-meo-dalt also.

once again thanks for everyones help.

L
 
I have heard mixed reports on 5-meo-dalt also.

L

as far as 5 meo dalt goes,i thought it to be interesting but not that enjoyable if that makes sence.be prepared for a fast onset-i was tripping 15min after eating it,and a short duration,but for me it missed the euphoric feeling and uncontrolable giggles i love on LSD.
 
You can, but iirc Peyote is an exception to that. Don't quote me on that though, might be wrong.

It's not an exception at all. Peyote / bridgesii / pedro / &c are all legal. Dried or living.
 
It's not an exception at all. Peyote / bridgesii / pedro / &c are all legal. Dried or living.

Lucky bastards. Honestly if I had access to any of the traditional psychs, I don't think I would fuck around with the grey area shit much at all.
 
I wonder why peyote is legal in the UK? I know it is legal in Canada because the indigenous used it religiously, but why legal in the UK?

Definitely a good thing, but Peyote is not a very viable option for mescaline. Even though it's legal in Canada is still costs upwards of $100 dollars for a single 10 year old cactus which wouldn't even be nearly enough to have a proper trip. San Pedro or Peruvian Torch are definitely much cheaper.
 
Also no danger of being arrested for their possession.

Be careful with that kind of thinking. I dunno about in Britain but around here, even the 'legal' RCs are illegal if they can prove intent to consume in most states, and at the federal level if they are similar to anything that is explicitly banned (and how similar they have to be is very vague in the law). It's generally considered legally safe to order and possess small amounts of them since it's not worth the authorities' time and money to track you down and put a case together, but you should still be careful and discreet.
 
To add to the list, the other DALTS are also legal.

DALT
4-ACO-DALT


RE: human consumption - there are no US style analogue laws here as such in that context. If someone was to sell or offer to sell a non-controlled chemical for human consumption which hasnt been approved as a medicine, the offence would only be a breach of the medicine act which is not heavily punishable (theoretically a max 2 years jail, but in reality much more likely just a fine and/or community service.)
 
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