Opioids Defeating the new OC time release

[krazykotter]

Not to rub this into anyone's face, but I read every single one of the 424 posts within this thread while shaving an "old" OC80 and I am "high as a muthafucka" right now....I am sold on the "ask for Ethex" method when filling my script in 11 days at Walgreens....that is if my pharmacy doesn't have any of the OC's in stock. Best of luck in defeating the "OP" all you smart fuckers. You have my support and love.

 

[.Lucid.]

isnt that generic ethex shit gonna run out too? i thought i read that those were just going to be available temporarily..

 

[ejnjgrl822]

That would be immpossible since Purdue threw there one and only piece of paper with the old OC recipe on it out in the trash once they released the new OP's.

i thought i heard a friend talking about some generics that had the same formulation as the old ocs

 

[intheb0x]

isnt that generic ethex shit gonna run out too? i thought i read that those were just going to be available temporarily..

Well thats what the million dollar question is, in earlier pages a few people talked about them, and someone talked about how their pharmacy just got 1500 ethex 80s, same markings as the old formula, it is said that ethex is being used in "name only" while purdue has a contract with them to push out generics aka old formula through them.

if they were done making them, why are pharmacies getting them in stock currently?

so ill be finding out personally soon enough.

could be old stock, could be certain areas, we wont know until we all see it with our own eyes.

 

[80mg]

omg free roxys for everyone!!

u have to put in the oven at 250 for maybe 10 to 20 min. they will break apart easily at this point into little pieces. then u put in ur spoon and fill up with water. then i used a burner on my gas stove to heat. adding water as pill breaks down. it works. all u end up with at the end is the binder new stuff they put in there. looks like cotton. the water taste like oxy and when injected def work s well. all that was left on spoon was new binders. def sucks to do compared to old ones but i did it.

This works. just tried it and worked fine.

As a hypothesis, I believe him. I am going too get a OP tommorow to do it with as an experiement. It's not that I don't take your word....I just want to make sure myself.

The reason being is that most plastics melt at 250-400 degree fareigheight. I believe the oxycodone hcl would remian as the difrrent plastics would bind each other. The absence of water wouln't allow it too mix together with the plastic as designed to do when moistened anyway either shooting, sniffing, eating, or plugging.

PLUS I found this article which is found here - http://www.jointogether.org/news/headlines/inthenews/2010/health-officials-unimpressed.html

Health Officials Unimpressed with New OxyContin Formula
April 27, 2010


News Summary

A new, supposedly abuse-resistant version of OxyContin is getting tepid reviews from Massachusetts addiction experts and parents, the Brockton Enterprise reported April 23.

The latest version of OxyContin approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has a time-released formula that drug maker Purdue Pharma said makes it harder for users to tamper with. Even the FDA, however, warned that the drug can still be abused, and other experts said that users may be able to heat the pills to get a higher dose even if the drug is now harder to cut, crush, chew, or dissolve.

"You are led to believe it is now going to be almost tamper-proof," said state Sen. Steven Tolman, chair of the Massachsuetts OxyContin and Heroin Commission. "It either is or it isn't. I hate to be negative but I didn't get a lot of comfort with this."

"It is a lot too little, too late," added Tolman. "It is difficult to establish trust against a company that has created such destruction."

"OxyContin should be taken off the market," said Mary D'Eramo, a member of the Abington Anti-Drug Coalition and the parents group Learn to Cope. "There are other drugs out there. OxyContin hurts far more people and costs far more lives than it has ever saved."

 

[jaystyle]

Jeez... can all of you stop with the stupid bullshit replies that just waste our time--- "WAHHH! OC IS DEAD!!", "Opanas are funnn!"---- lets stick to the topic at hand; this thread should be dedicated to BREAKING THE OP TIME RELEASE.

That being said--- my opinion is the only feasible time release breaking method will involve taking it orally. This is fine--- I liked sniffing OCs, but oral has always been stronger anyway and its the OC buzz im after.

Here are the different methods I've heard about that sound like they could work--- I've had a hard time getting a solid answer from someone saying-- "Yes-- This works! The time release is broken and I feel it 100%". Can anyone report on the following methods?

**PS--- all of these methods intially involve powdering ti as well as possible. I have no problem whatsoever making a fine powder out of OP by using tough filing tools or sanding blocks etc.

1.) Powdering it and eating very tiny little bits over time with a snack and coca cola-- this way it doesnt all gob together in your stomach. The coca cola acid may help in some way...

2.) Right now I have a powdered OP 80 dissolved in lemon juice & apple cider vinegar. I'm gonna let it sit overnight and drink the solution; mixed with water; in the morning. It's been 2 hours and so far the chunks have dissolved. The theory behind this is that the strong acids will break it down like it is broken down in your stomach, and the oxycodone won't be bound to the polymers by morning. Anyone report success with this method? I will report on it tommorow.

3.) Acetone - GO to a hardware store and get acetone; dissolve powdered OP with acetone in a spoon. After letting it sit for a bit in this rough solvent, you can evaporate the OP with a lighter or just the room temperature and all that will be left will be oxycodone crystals that you can supposedly snort / eat without it gelling. Any reports on this working or not?

4.) Microwave method?? A lot of people say this is bullshit and I dont know... I read somewhere that a guy powdered his OP and put it on a plate and cooked it for like 6-7 minutes and all the gel melts and oxycodone is salvagable that can be consolidated and snorted / eaten with the time release broken. This method sounds like bullshit, but if anyone had success with it I'd like to hear about it.

Anyway... these sound like the most promising methods I have read at the moment. I'll report on my acid dissolved solution by afternoon tommorow-- I'm not a chemist, but at least I'm trying to help the community find a solution to this issue. Too bad this thread is 95% time wasting bullshit... im sure everyone can agree less bullshit + more sticking to the topic will be better for everyone. Right?

Good luck fellow fiends! Report!

 

[Blackhawktown]

I just filled my script of 30's a few days ago, and it was the generics.The bottle did not say PUR on for Purdue like it usually does, although it did not say Ethex either. Chi--town have faith!

I like to take them as directed anyway, but I heard the new ones are not as strong if you take it the right way. Eek!

 

[moogmania]

I was thinking PEG300 since it's already an ingredient i believe i saw when someone posted the ingredients maybe adding more is the key to get it to come apart without turning to a waxy substance..

Common uses:

PEG can serve as the separator and electrolyte solvent in lithium polymer cells. Its low diffusivity often requires high temperatures of operation, but its high viscosity even near its melting point allows very thin electrolyte layers.

While crystallization of the polymer can degrade performance, many of the salts used to carry charge can also serve as a kinetic barrier to the formation of crystals.

Such batteries carry greater energy for their weight than other lithium ion battery technologies.

When working with phenol in a laboratory situation, PEG 300 can be used on phenol skin burns to deactivate any residual phenol.

Poly (ethylene glycol) is also commonly used as a polar stationary phase for gas chromatography, as well as a heat transfer fluid in electronic testers.

In the field of microbiology, PEG precipitation is used to concentrate viruses.

That does sound promising. According to the MSDS, PEG seems to be non-toxic enough for use in a lot of medical situations, and if it successfully works as a dispersant then I think this is worth a shot. Maybe after grinding OP to a fine powder and saturating it with PEG? In a couple weeks I'll either get to start experimenting or having fun the old fashioned way. Anyone who currently has access to the needed materials should definitely start posting their results with any reasonable-sounding, non-toxic solvents. Something is sure to work, and if we all pitched in some data this could be a great resource to help people avoid putting some potentially harmful binders into their nose/veins.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

I can easily get PEG300,400 etc. but not OP's or any other source of ANY drug besides whats scripted to me lol.. but to everyone who can experiment safely and can get/has OP's:

http://www.researchsupply.net/solvents_etc.html

^ thats where to get the chems at.. it's worth a shot people. or if you don't feel comfortable, send me some OP's and i will do the research with the chems lol. <- Forgot to mention Mods i was kidding about sending them to me. (but if they insist lol)

seriously tho, i have no interest in taking the OP/OC's i just want to figure this out for everyone so it will be over with.

 

[HeaveHo94]

I can easily get PEG300,400 etc. but not OP's or any other source of ANY drug besides whats scripted to me lol.. but to everyone who can experiment safely and can get/has OP's:

http://www.researchsupply.net/solvents_etc.html

^ thats where to get the chems at.. it's worth a shot people. or if you don't feel comfortable, send me some OP's and i will do the research with the chems lol.

Sure... ill send u all 240 I get a month
I was given the OPs last month but asked for the gens and got the 1s with 80 on 1 side and OC on the other at Kmart here on LI.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ lol i was kiddin.. but if you do want to experiment with OP's when you get em.. that link will have all the chems you need to decypher how they made them "abuse proof" I know all of us together can figure it out.

 

[deebomb]

Sorry, no chance. Out in New England, Ma we have tried everything! This pill is a bitch. When chewed, all the gell sticks to your teath and the roof of your mouth. takes about 2hours to disolve in water and all you get is floating gel. I don't shoot or snort them, my cousin does so she's fucked. Even when taken oraly you don't feel that Wow Im high feeling, it creeps up on you. the 80's are going for 1/2 of the cost per mg out here. People with the old oc's are selling them for $1.00 per mg.

 

[HeaveHo94]

OT: If u DR Shop watch out if u go 2 Walgreens. My friend sees 2 docs and went to Walgreens to fill his 80s and they called his DR and reported him to the DEA when they saw on his file that he also gets 30mg Roxys, 90 a month with 2 different DEA #s. He was discharged from the Oxy Dr. and now scared his Roxy Dr will be notified.
But anyway Ive tried to Crisp it, Microwave, Freezer, hair dryer, Coke in the shot glass and they all suck. The PedEgg chased by 4 or 5 pumps of nose spray helped, the Neti Pot worked in breaking it up. My snot rockets look like rubber cement. I also fell asleep with 1 in my mouth. Again it looked liked I drank a cup of rubber cement. Eating them seems the way 2 go now I guess. Ill try something else if some1 has any ideas. I have over 100 OP's left collecting dust.

 

[Volcano]

Kinda shocked no one had anything to say on my "mini-live" trip report from last night. I'm still mildly itchy this morning but I always was on half an 'OC' anyhow.

The key with the OPs is chew chew chew, mix with some food, lather rinse repeat.

 

[grafitti]

i did it rather easy , the trick is hold your op 80 with small pliers , holding with fingers will make them jell , grind into powder , do not mess with outer coating , i used a teardrop of M.E.K. , its similar to acetone , but it is used to remove permanant marker and breaks down plastic super fast , put a very little in tablespoon i mean just like a teardrop , add the powdwer , it will not even get wet , just enough to make it moist , it breaks down the plastic in them and leaves oxy behind , it evaporates super fast and u only use a very little bit and it evaporates in no time leaving a nice white fluffy line behind , no more goo , no chemical taste of the m e k , just the quick hit we all missed , M.E.K. CAN BE BOUGHT AT ANY WALMART , i do not imagine it is good for you but what is these days , u can not taste it , it does not burn your nasal passages , the oxy taste great , i do believe it all evaporates , it destroys the plastic in them no more goo , it works so easy and soso good , just do not use very much u do not even want it to be liquid when it is in your spoon jusy enough to make oxy moist ,half a drop to half a 80 and its like oc all over

 

[THunder MuFF]

I'll def try that. I have OP 40's to mess around with so ill go to walmart right now and pick that stuff up and try it. I'm excited and hope it works. I miss the oxy taste dripping down my throat!

 

[Supeudol]

Haven't seen these coming to Canada either.

 

[Kenaz]

well i dont know what else to do, where should i go??
its a "professional salon formula"

only has 2 things listed as ingredients, acetone, denatonium benzoate,...

whats your insight on what to do?

The denatonium benzoate is bad stuff. Get some pure acetone online: make sure what you're buying lists only acetone as an ingredient.

I should also add that I have no idea of oxycodone's solubility in acetone, nor the solubility of any of the ingredients used in the Oxy OP formulation. You may want to check that out before you ingest the extract, especially if you plan to IV it.

 

[LittlebyLittle]

I still feel great. Nodding hard.

If you're an oral user and don't mind crushing finely then seperating layers of oxy from other layers (eating a light snack during slow osy ingestion) so it doesn't clump up as easily in your stomach should be fine

hey, to help stop the pieces clumping up, chew the pills in small sections for LONG periods of time, washing down with your favorite soda. swallow a small enough goop every so often and after about 30 minutes of this tedious, time-consuming administration, you'll feel like you took 90% or your expected oral dose.

i'm not going out on a limb saying that these things are good. obviously they're a thorn in my side. but, it's what i can get and the price dropped and since i'm an oral user anyway, what the hell. OP's, let's make some memories together.

 

[Volcano]

hey, to help stop the pieces clumping up, chew the pills in small sections for LONG periods of time, washing down with your favorite soda. swallow a small enough goop every so often and after about 30 minutes of this tedious, time-consuming administration, you'll feel like you took 90% or your expected oral dose.

i'm not going out on a limb saying that these things are good. obviously they're a thorn in my side. but, it's what i can get and the price dropped and since i'm an oral user anyway, what the hell. OP's, let's make some memories together.

Yeah I did your trick with the chips and soda and it worked out fine. I'm a Tab (diet cola) drinker but it's still very acidic .