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Ego Death?

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I've been reading a lot about what Ego Death is, and I want to experience it, what is the best way to experience ego death?
 
its the temporary dissolution of the psychological self... but i mean whatever you say about it isnt going to describe it. its something you just have to experience.

lsd is my personal favorite for achieving this state.
 
first time i hit the 4th plateau on dxm i totally lost my ego and was laying on the floor in a ball.
 
Ego death is essentially when you are no longer conscious of seperation, when everything just IS, there will be pretty much no concept of "I" "this" "that" basically when reality merges into cosmic oneness and "you" cease to exist, ALL that is, is ALL that. That is ALL.

It is impossible to be aware of ego death as it happens, because you are unaware that something is happenning to you, because you are unaware of what you could possibly refer to, because instead of BEING YOU, now you are just BEING

You can only really become aware of the fact that you have experienced ego death after the fact, as you are reborn, which in my opinion is the most enjoyable part, when you realize that whatever just happened, actually was something happening TO YOU!!! And now YOU exist again!!!!

(sorry for the excitement, but I just am really stoked right now for some unknown reason)
 
ego death is amazing, I would recomend LSD but with the dose you have to hit and the prices of LSD these days... instead maybe you should go for some DMT, smoke a good amount of it and you'll certainly experience ego death.
 
In my experience, DMT. Even with dose's of 600ug+ of LSD i still couldn't achieve ego death in the same way as high dose's of DMT, it will annihilate your ego into oblivion whilst transporting you into unimaginable multi-transforming dimensions of hyperspace.
 
DMT ego death > LSD

Plus DMT is easy to extract at home while LSD is not easy to manufacturer
 
DMT forces you to let go of yourself so I guess so, but for an ego death while still in this world a high dose of shrooms works well I think.
 
i first experienced it on lsd, but it wasnt forced at all, i was able and willing to except its departure, and i could see that being difficult for some. i would say dmt, or possibly a shit load of mushrooms.
 
be aware that your ego will fight back if you try to kill it. you just have to surrender and let it flow. somehow the mind can find its way back after it leaves the body.

3g syrian rue + 3g psilocybe cyanescens (equivalent to 6+g cubensis) three years ago...

I'm still not sure if i returned, or if i'm still in the dream world ;)
 
You can achieve it by meditation or a significant dose of a (preferably classic) psychedelic,
but the absolute best way is to do both: meditate during a trip. It will happen gradually and you will see that there are obstacles to overcome before you can really surrender. Doubt, fear, mistrust (in yourself) are things that you will have to learn to actually not fight anymore but give them no more credence and thus letting them slip. As it will allow you to lose yourself in surrender this other state will be what your consciousness is then in instead.

If even that fails, add a dissociative like ketamine to the mix. But start with tiny doses with a psychedelic and meditation!!!! a tiny bit is enough.

Before you even attempt such a thing this way though, it is best to practice sober meditation in order to maintain a sort of stability. As your ego dissolves it can get really hectic and intense, if you snap out of it in that stage you will be in a very confused place. Again, meditation is the remedy to get back into balance.

Sure, you will find there are numerous reports that mention no meditation. That's because it can just happen to you involuntarily, but that's not premeditated (no pun intended) so it doesn't answer your question to semi-reliably achieve this.

Actually my first time was a result of surrender from a trip that was so horryfyingly intense to my ego and annihilating I chose the escape of surrender over the chaos and fear, dispair and conflict at some instant and after that I was no longer there for a few hours. Whiteout.
 
Thanks for the helpful information. But how exactly does one meditate? What is the goal of meditation? What am I trying to do?
 
essentially, meditation is meant to focus the mind to one point, thereby enabling you to shut out mundane distractions. focus on your breathing, heartrate, etc. actually what is fantastic for me is to light a candle and lie/sit in front of it in an otherwise dark room, and focus on the flame and nothing else while maintaining regular and comfortable breathing. with psychedelics this process of focusing the mind inward is accelerated, and the point you can reach (namely complete ego death) is phenomenal.

Also, to answer your otherr question, DMT is fantastic, but I also find that my favorite substances for this are actually some of the 2C's at high doses. this is because in comparison to DMT, they are much more gradual and long lasting, and generally just a smoother and more coherent experience. 2C-E and T-2 will rock you right out of space-time. that is, if you are like me and dont experience very much body load with phennies in high doses (as in 60+ mg 2C-E)
 
I got it during my last mushroom trip. And it really was the epitome of a trip experience, more than any kind of visual or auditory hallucination. It's hard to explain. I gave it a name afterwards, "the Un-Naming" (after something from A Wrinkle In Time, I believe) but that really doesn't describe it.

The best way to get it is with a heroic dose of mushrooms plus a toke of bud. Now I didn't do a heroic dose, I happened to have above average shrooms. I certainly never got it with 3.5g, but all I did was go up half a gram.

I haven't tried DMT (yet) but I imagine that a good dose of that will send you off to that place...well, it's not really a place.
 
I agree with Help?!?!, maybe it's just me but whenever I go into a trip with a specific goal or something I want to accomplish it tends to turn sour or just empty and it feels like I'm wasting my time.

My suggestion is to be open to the idea of ego death, so if it does occur at some point you know to just surrender and let it happen. Not as easy as it might sound, basically when you're identity is dissolving your ego seems to react as if it is actually permanently dying and panics, clinging on to anything remotely stable to anchor itself into existence.

And think hard about plunging into these things, your ego, identity, whatever- is the only thing you've really ALWAYS had. Your body gets sick, gets sore etc. Sometimes your family isn't home, sometimes you're away from home. The only real "home" most people have ever had is their identity, you know that you exist and have a place here. I'm not trying to make it sound scary or like bad idea, just not trying to make it sound "fun".
 
The Hebrew Hammer said:
Ego death is essentially when you are no longer conscious of seperation, when everything just IS, there will be pretty much no concept of "I" "this" "that" basically when reality merges into cosmic oneness and "you" cease to exist, ALL that is, is ALL that. That is ALL.

It is impossible to be aware of ego death as it happens, because you are unaware that something is happenning to you, because you are unaware of what you could possibly refer to, because instead of BEING YOU, now you are just BEING

You can only really become aware of the fact that you have experienced ego death after the fact, as you are reborn, which in my opinion is the most enjoyable part, when you realize that whatever just happened, actually was something happening TO YOU!!! And now YOU exist again!!!!

(sorry for the excitement, but I just am really stoked right now for some unknown reason)
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I love that description and it's something I never really thought about.
I was never prepared enough to do a full hit of 5-meo-dmt when I had the chance and even wasted my chance to fully experience DMT but when I was more naive I smoked Salvia and I have a feeling what I experienced was ego death. Luckily it happened so fast that I had no way to resist.
I had no concept of myself, humanity or time. I had always been where I was and I always would be there.
 
nearjat said:
I agree with Help?!?!, maybe it's just me but whenever I go into a trip with a specific goal or something I want to accomplish it tends to turn sour or just empty and it feels like I'm wasting my time.
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I've noticed the same with myself in the past, 'thought' is the manifestation of self, any form of thought will direct the experience weather good or bad, the absence of all thought is absolute 'being', this is the death of the individual self or 'ego' and the surrender to everything. I find DMT is the best substance for reaching this presence of mind because theirs no real struggle, its forced upon you extremely fast.

This can also be achieved through deep meditation, although it takes much more mental discipline, though i find the benefits are much more rewarding. When you can mentally 'kill/dissolve' your ego through personal will it's very empowering.
 
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