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Impossibly Euphoric. Explain to me why?

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Jton

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Dear Moderators, if you feel this would be more appreciated in a section such as "Advanced Drug Discussion" then by all means move it. I want this thread to be read and answered. Thank you.


Summary of Wall of Text if you are lazy - reading all information provided by me is preferred

I understand my post is long. So for those lazy, short on time, or low on Adderall here is a BRIEF summary. Please note by reading this you will in no way get all of the imperative information I have provided and therefore this summary may ultimately be deemed useless to you. Anyways, basically I always get amphetamine psychosis very bad (a rare side effect that not many people get.) On Tuesday I took MDMA. A few days after ingesting the MDMA, on Thursday night, I decided I would be dosing on around 80mg of Adderall using the "dissolve in warm water" method I started to get a huge psychosis but after about an hour and a half it changed in to the best euphoric sensation I have ever had. Yes, better than the MDMA. I want to know what truly caused this random euphoria? Obviously in some way it was drug/chemically induced. Could it be the large dose of amphetamines brining me back to an intense roll (has happened before for me, but never on this level.) Any theories or information is appreciated. Thank you.[/I]



Disclaimer about the length, make note there is a summary at the bottom:

I am tweaked at the moment, so if you do not wish to read an amphetamine rant, you should skip most of the first part of this thread but I am only trying to provide as much relevant information as possible as said that I need to do in the rules for this section. I realize that this post is more of an Erowid trip report than a simple "basic drug" question, but let me assure you that through this trip report you will discover some very interesting and possibly very useful information for achieving some of the greatest euphoric effects you will ever experience. If you are annoyed by so much text, please skip right to the bottom "summary" version which is considerably shorter. Thank you for understanding my reason in typing so much. It really is my wanting myself to give as much information as possible rather than the minor tweak I am on. :\ Hopefully, as I have seen from browsing these forums you are intelligent and friendly enough to forgive me for this travesty :)

Hey Bluelight, this is my first post on this forum. I've come here for a very long time to just view random posts and educated myself on responsible recreational usage. I'm active on Grasscity and never got around to really registering here because I never had anything worthwhile to ask or contribute. That fact, however, may be changing. This thread is not clear cut, I just want input. As stated in the thread title, I that these effects I received were indeed from MDMA I ingested a few days ago. I would like all of your input though, because to be honest I am just roughly speculating!

Now, as stated in the rules I will provide some background information so that you have all necessary details. First off, I am male, 17 years old, 140 pounds, generally good health. I've been using drugs for recreation for a while now, making sure to always research any substance heavily before I ingest it (which is why these particular effects that I will be sharing soon shocked me! I have no idea what caused them really.) I try and keep myself very grounded in dealing with drugs and always take my personal factors in to consideration. Although (as with most people) I sometimes struggle limiting myself of some drugs, I know more or less what would ever be safe for me personally to try. I consider myself a drug buff (spend countless hours on Erowid!) Saying this, here is a list of the drugs I have put into my body:
  • -Cannabis
  • -Nicotine (once from a hookah, I will never smoke cigarettes)
  • -Ambien
  • -Hydrocodone
  • -Diphenhydramine (unfortunately)
  • -Amphetamines of all sorts
  • -MDMA
  • -Probably others

I'll always have that special place in my heart for the drug (plant) that produced my first high, Cannabis. But really, the thing I've taken a shine to most has been Adderall and Vyavanse (my first and best, until today, speed high was my first one on 100mg of Vyvanse) because of how "real" the euphoria and mood change can feel. I find that the peak effects outweigh the negative effects that I absolutely HATE. I take Adderall on a most daily basis when I have enough money to buy it. I've used almost every imaginable method to ingest, orally, chewing, insulfation, and even a method for dissolving in luke warm water that I had found on this forum (it is a very popular thread and the method actually worked quite well as you are able to find out!) Prior to the experience I am about to share, my highest dosage of Adderall ever taken had been 50mg through the nose at one time but more commonly 20-30mg taken orally. So now you know my most common/highest dosages.

Now, this would be a good time to mention that I am one of those people that is greatly effected by any drug until I have built a strong tolerance. For instance, Adderall Xr usually effects me for 12-16 hours which is more than any other person I have come across. On the other hand in certain cases I do not really get any use out of some drugs (downing 16 Benadryls proved to be pointless except that it put me in a delirium based coma for a few hours.) Drug effects result in a high degree of hit or miss for me, albeit mostly a hit. Most of the "rare" effects that you hear about sometimes (whether positive or negative) I am likely to receive when trying any sort of drug. For instance, every single time I have tried Amphetamine, I have a very powerful psychosis. This scared me at first but I have gotten used to it where it doesn't bother me any more and I can tolerate it if not end up enjoying the odd hallucinations it can induce. I've never really seen anyone (either in real life or on a forum) report even mild amphetamine psychosis much less a moderate to strong one. So from what I've read this side effect of the drug is fairly rare.

Again, sorry for the wall of text, but now that you know all associated and relevant information I have get on in the process of relaying this rather interesting story to you. A few weeks ago a friend of mine hooked me up with some Molly Powder (pure, or as pure as you are likely to get on the street MDMA powder.) MDMA had always been the drug that I had wanted to give a shot, and even before I had been high for my first time on Cannabis I had been highly interested in MDMA's supposed unmeasurable euphoric attributes. A side note and something you will get to know about me, straight Euphoria is my main factor in deciding if I like a drug or not. I really think that is what drugs are for - making you feel good. So after so long in my experimentations of drugs and never really being able to find a MDMA hookup (I probably could have found one if I was actively searching harder) much less a Molly hookup, I was excited beyond belief. I believe that his Molly contained one point (100mg) or MDMA but I have no way of telling. I'm not sure if I was underestimating MDMA's stimulant effects, but I suspected that the Molly had been cut with a small amount of street amphetamine because of the all-too-familiar effects I noticed after the peak euphoria. Needless to say I was very impressed by Molly and it had been my favorite experience until the one I am slowly but surely telling you about. I had thought that Molly would have a more Psychedelic touch to it so I was caught off guard about how clear it was. After I had read up a bit more on the difference between Molly and MDMA though I realized that it was normal for Molly to be much less intense but much more consistent and smooth. I was very, very impressed by my newfound love drug.

So anyway, over the next few days when I took my Adderall I did notice that it help to reignite some of the effects of the Molly. Reignite isn't actually an accurate description as I was definitely feeling a positive mood change etc. for the days following my ingestion, but rather the Adderall helped intensify the effects. In the most prominent case the Adderall brought the roll fully back (not the peak at all, but if you've ever done really pure Molly you know what I mean about the constant clear minded euphoria you experience even though it can't be considered an overwhelming peak.) I was surprised and very pleased that even a full day after taking the MDMA (with no comedown mind you, just a return to a positive-minded stupor) that I would still be able to re-up it's euphoria so significantly. Two days after the MDMA ingestion, on Wednesday I believe, I was still feeling a significant disconnect from reality but the euphoria had really subsided aside from when I took my daily Adderall dosage. When I did this the effects came back but by exponentially less intensity than the last time I had used Adderall to bring me back to a roll. After two days of no sleep the amphetamine psychosis broke in as normal, but this time noticeably with a more trippy feel than just feeling pooped out and seeing some dots on the walls. To put into perspective, the psychosis was intensified to the point where I literally felt "fucked up" for lack of a better term. I knew that I was not in a condition to be driving, and normally I would scoff at limiting my driving capabilities because I have ingested a drug (some exceptions obviously, I am responsible first and foremost with the lives of others and I know what I can control myself under.) After finally forcing myself to eat some dinner after I got home from running errands with my sister (she drove) I felt better and that I was breaking free of the psychosis, which is normally the case after you are finally able to eat. As I was feeling better and stimulated off of sleep deprivation I did not fall asleep until 3am that night with the help of a few hits of Cannabis. Waking up 12 hours later on my basement couch (my favorite place for drug-induced passing out) I felt quite good actually with no hangover or physical toll whatsoever.

My sister and her friend (I get along with them incredibly well despite them being much older than me) were planning on pulling an all nighter that Thursday and they asked if I could join in with them because on such occasions we usually have a good time. At this point I had around 14 Adderall Xr 20mg and 4 Adderall IR 10mg. My sister wanted to get some of her work done (the reason for the all nighter) so because of this reason and also the fact that at the previous all nighter me and her friend had used a small dose of Adderall just to stay awake and be good company that I offered them both some Adderall. I had recently just saved up enough money to buy the stuff again so I had not really gotten "speedy high" for quite a while. Apparantly my first true stimulant love, amphetamines, saw how much fun I had on that Molly and got a little jealous. The temptation for a true speed high that could even surpass my first experience was what I was intending to achieve. And now, finally, I actually had enough amphetamines to do it. It seems like I am always over generous when it comes to sharing drugs, and as I had supplied the Adderall last time free of charge I was more than reluctant to share anywhere more than 20mg with either of them, if that. I did break down in the end though and decide to give my sister one of the IR tablets (she was not looking to get high, just to get her work done and have a fun evening) and her friend who we will not call D a 20mg XR. I was planning on snorting the XR for most of the day prior to them coming over but since I absolutely despised crushing those damn beads I started searching this site for any info about other ingestion methods. I eventually came across the very popular "How to actually get a buzz from your rx adderall" thread and I can't be happy enough I did. It has changed the way I will take Adderall from now on. I never enjoyed snorting the crushed beads and all of the wax coating along with it, but as far as I knew or had tried it was the most successful method for me. I was wrong. The method described in this thread was the "dissolving in luke warm water" method and although it still required me to spend 10 minutes getting the beads into a fine enough powder, my time was much more well spent. You will soon know why. If you are a speedfreak or even occasional user who seems to be trouble getting that same euphoric rush as the first time you tried amphetamines then I suggest you read all six pages of that goldmine of a thread. It's worth it. You can never get as good as your first experience, but the effects I received from this ingestion method were the best I have ever been able to notice (and this makes since because in my experience with dissolving hydrocodone and benadryl, the drinking of the substance-filled water produced the greatest effects as well.) The best thing is, mind you, that you don't need to increase your normal dosage at all for extra euphoria. In this case, the ingestion method alone provides almost profound effects with near the same dosage taken orally/insulfated.

When my sister and D had safely arrived home, the fun began. I handed my sister the 10mg IR and she got to work, not even noticing that she was already feeling the drug (she had never done it before.) I informed D that we were going to try something new in the ways of ingestion. We ended up taking a LOT of Adderall within the approximately 14 hours we were together. Even my sister ended up moving up to 30mg total, a lot for a newbie. Since I still had three IR 10mg's left I decided those would be ideal for snorting since they do not have the wax coating that you have to get up your nose. Me and D decided that the 10mg's would do a good job in providing the little "potentiating" dosages that we would need throughout the night. Keep in mind I had already taken about 10mg earlier in the day but by this point the effects were subdued although had not yet led to my normal psychosis. So, if I remember, this is our trip time-line (if not exact, i'ts close enough and does indeed proper overall dosages.)

0:00 - D and I snorted 5mg IR each
0:05 - D and I drank 20mg Addy Coctails (luke warm water extraction method)
0:20 - D and I feeling a small buzz but the luke warm guide predicted warm euphoria within 2-3 minutes, so we decided to take more. Another 20mg Addy Coctail for us each.
1:30 - D and I snort another 5mg IR each for a little boost.
2:30 - D and I again snort another 5mg IR each.
4:30 - D and I drink another 20mg Addy Coctail each
5:30 - D and I both snort 10mg XR crushed up into IR form.
8:30 - I take a tiny as can be (pinky dip size) taste of Absinthe.

So all in all we both had about 70mg of Adderall in our systems (for me a bit more, maybe closer to 75-80mg.) My personal opinion is that this is an awfully high dosage.

Now, at about the 10th hour of this experience, I notice the amphetamine psychosis coming on, and really very intensely due to the extremely high dosage I had taken. I have never once got anxiety/panic feelings, confused/dazed/irrational behavior, or any other sort of worry some feelings on an amphetamine comedown. I never experienced these things beforehand, but know these were possible effects of Adderall (and these effects in particular increased with dosage) I knew that I was about to go into a fairly major psychosis. These feelings started around 6:30 A.M. and gradually expanded for an hour or so, much to my discomfort. It felt different than normal though. It was not the very least bit trippy (the only hallucination that occurred was a tile floor breathing) but instead I was more confused and disillusioned. I was truly out of touch with reality. I could still talk to my sister and D fine, but actually comprehending the conversation was the hard part. At this point I had been acting very erratic and I could not help but keep mumbling nonsensical things to myself, especially "animal-type" noises. Facial ticks and general restlessness did not cease for over an hour and a half so I began to worry than I had taken too high of a dosage for this new "godly" way ingestion.

Now, what you've been waiting for. The interesting part finally comes! I do not know how or why the following happened, and that is why I need you to give me your opinions or scientific facts regarding it. All of a sudden my coma-like psychosis feelings turned into creeping euphoria. At first I had not been sure of what it was, too little to actually appreciate or detect. That same euphoria grew to an untold degree, however. I might dare to say that it was stronger euphoria than the initial peak wave of the Molly I had ingested only days earlier. The difference was though, the Molly provided clear euphoria and this euphoria was quite different. Euphoria, yes, but I can definitely say it provided a more foggy type of it. I know this because my anxiety and confused thoughts turned into silly and giggly actions. All of my senses stared to pop, OVERWHELMINGLY similar Molly experience. I noticed this most in my sense and appreciation of both music and touch. I'd have to say that all though the initial "pop" with Molly had been for intense, that this euphoric appreciation of sensation lasted longer. To be precise, a good 6-7 hours with little decrease in effect until probably the five and a half hour mark. I had zero problem controlling myself on my MDMA, but with this unknown euphoria I was prone to a child-like state and bubbly laughter that I was more or less unable to halt. This euphoria really reminded me of my MDMA experience, but it was much less speedy. After about three hours, the effects started to take on another form. Minor hallucinations became more vivid and common and I had more of a "stoned" type feeling yet still with much euphoria. This leg of the experience only stopped when I was forced to try and act normal because my parents had come home (I failed at this.) After being asked to help out with some errands for them, I got into the car. Again, the experience changed drastically. I instantly noticed how vivid everything outside looked and a body high started growing that felt even stronger and significantly more bodily euphoric than my experiences with hydrocodone. The onset of this magnificent euphoria had brought a hyper-giddy state similar to MDMA and now only a few hours later had morphed into a powerful opiate high. This actually was quite an ideal effect to have because the giddy euphoria was not easy to control and it would have been a red flag. While on the errands and especially in the car I experienced the pinnacle of relaxation.

All in all, today has been the best I've ever felt. Each leg of the euphoria was so great I can't say which was best. I very much so wish to try this experience again, the only problem is that I do not know why it came to be or how to replicate it to have that same unbelievable euphoria. That's why I need all of your help. Why did this happen to me?

My only theories are the following:

1.) Because such a large dosage of Adderall was taken, it repotentiated the effects of the MDMA still in my system from Tuesday.

2.) I had such a strong amphetamine psychosis going while it could be possible that the other later dosage of my Adderall (~the last 35-40mg) was just hitting me euphorically creating some sort of indescribable euphoria.


I suppose it could be a combination of these two as well, the MDMA and the Psychosis.

Anyways, if anyone could PLEASE let me know why this happened I would appreciate it thoroughly. I want to experience this again.

Regards, and so very sorry for the long thread,

Jton

P.S. I took Tums tablets several times during this time period to make sure I got max effects from the Adderall. Could that play a roll in this? There is no possible way for me to describe this experience and euphoria properly, and would have been impossible in any less amount of words.
 
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Could you provide a tl;dr?


Yes sir I would be more than happy to, if only in return you explained to me exactly what a tl;dr is exactly? Or if it is in somehow common knowledge to the rules, etc. of this forum, a link to a sticky would certainly suffice!

Thank you for the fast reply.

Edit: I will make a shorter summary.
 
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Ok dont take this the wrong way but when you say you are quite experienced at 17, I thought I was too but reading this showed me that you still have a lot to experience, and thats good. As for the Amphetamine Psychosis you keep talking about it actually just sounds like a mix of anxiety and insomnia getting the better of you while your mind plays little tricks on you because you dont fully understand what is happening to your body and mind. Full blown amphetamine psychosis would be an entirely different feeling where euphoria would not come to mind at all IME.

Why I think this happened is that you are still young and your tolerance is low and your overall experience with these drugs is low, so you are able to get much more out these drugs now then you will be able to in a year or more. Also when you described the Adderall lasting so long it could be that your body doesnt produce enough of a certain enzyme that breaks amphetamine salts down, which could explain a lot of what was going on. Being young and full of wonder is a great thing and thats what I would chalk most of that up to to be honest.

I hope you dont take any of this the wrong way, as I dont want to come off sounding demeaning, but these are my thoughts on the matter. Welcome to BL and in the future maybe try to shorten your posts so more people actually take the time to read them.
 
Ok dont take this the wrong way but when you say you are quite experienced at 17, I thought I was too but reading this showed me that you still have a lot to experience, and thats good. As for the Amphetamine Psychosis you keep talking about it actually just sounds like a mix of anxiety and insomnia getting the better of you while your mind plays little tricks on you because you dont fully understand what is happening to your body and mind. Full blown amphetamine psychosis would be an entirely different feeling where euphoria would not come to mind at all IME.

Why I think this happened is that you are still young and your tolerance is low and your overall experience with these drugs is low, so you are able to get much more out these drugs now then you will be able to in a year or more. Also when you described the Adderall lasting so long it could be that your body doesnt produce enough of a certain enzyme that breaks amphetamine salts down, which could explain a lot of what was going on. Being young and full of wonder is a great thing and thats what I would chalk most of that up to to be honest.

I hope you dont take any of this the wrong way, as I dont want to come off sounding demeaning, but these are my thoughts on the matter. Welcome to BL and in the future maybe try to shorten your posts so more people actually take the time to read them.

About the length; I've added a retrospective summary. I understand some people are not willing to read that long a post, it's fine. I did not intend to make it sound that I am a heavily experienced drug user, not at all. I merely was trying to make the point that I've had enough experience to know my way around and not be fooled. Although your explanation does warrant certain consideration and your explanation of what I deem "Amphetamine Psychosis" to be an interesting way to describe it, I can be about 95% sure that it is not just 'being tired.' The first time I experienced this effect I slowly collapsed to my floor and was unable to move for approximately three hours, whilst tripping moderately all the way. You don't really see Red Dolphins jumping around your room merely from sleep deprivation, eh?

I know I am inexperienced and I was also completely flabbergasted because this euphoria that was set on to me defies everything I know about drugs. It doesn't make sense, that's just it. And this is the reason I ask for all of your wisdom.

Also, one point of yours I did find intriguing to me was the point about my body not producing enough certain enzymes to break down the Adderall. This indeed could help explain why I was hit with such a euphoric rush at once. I was however feeling the effects I normally do prior to this euphoria all through the night and when I actually did get this euphoric rush the feelings were not really in any way compared to those I have previously experienced from this drug. It wasn't a speedy feeling. Thanks for the input and the possible explanations!

P.S. My tolerance isn't really low as you'd think. I take Adderall almost daily, I just had to stop for a week because of money issues. 20-30mg doesn't really give me much more than a mild buzz. I do have a significant tolerance, although maybe it isn't the biggest ever.
 
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Yes sir I would be more than happy to, if only in return you explained to me exactly what a tl;dr is exactly? Or if it is in somehow common knowledge to the rules, etc. of this forum, a link to a sticky would certainly suffice!

Thank you for the fast reply.

Edit: I will make a shorter summary.

tl;dr means "Too Long; Didn't Read" meaning provide a short summary of your overall post so certain people that don't like reading that much text don't have to.

Nevermind - I didn't realize you already edited and added one.

After reading it I assume you got serotonin syndrome for a little while. Adderall mainly works on dopamine but it still releases serotonin. It's never a good idea to mix Adderall and MDMA.
 
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tl;dr means "Too Long; Didn't Read" meaning provide a short summary of your overall post so certain people that don't like reading that much text don't have to.

Nevermind - I didn't realize you already edited and added one.

I realized this shortly after you posted it and have taken the liberty of providing such a summary. I hope it makes clear enough sense that I may actually receive sensible responses to my question.
 
Although your explanation does warrant certain consideration and your explanation of what I deem "Amphetamine Psychosis" to be an interesting way to describe it, I can be about 95% sure that it is not just 'being tired.' The first time I experienced this effect I slowly collapsed to my floor and was unable to move for approximately three hours, whilst tripping moderately all the way. You don't really see Red Dolphins jumping around your room merely from sleep deprivation, eh?

I know I am inexperienced and I was also completely flabbergasted because this euphoria that was set on to me defies everything I know about drugs. It doesn't make sense, that's just it. And this is the reason I ask for all of your wisdom.

Also, one point of yours I did find intriguing to me was the point about my body not producing enough certain enzymes to break down the Adderall. This indeed could help explain why I was hit with such a euphoric rush at once. I was however feeling the effects I normally do prior to this euphoria all through the night and when I actually did get this euphoric rush the feelings were not really in any way compared to those I have previously experienced from this drug. It wasn't a speedy feeling. Thanks for the input and the possible explanations!

P.S. My tolerance isn't really low as you'd think. I take Adderall almost daily, I just had to stop for a week because of money issues. 20-30mg doesn't really give me much more than a mild buzz. I do have a significant tolerance, although maybe it isn't the biggest ever.

ok now if you were full out hallucinating and such as you just now described that is a different picture than the one i read in the OP. It just seemed like you were exhausted and anxious from your description. ONe thing I have realized is that we dont do drugs, drugs do us...meaning that sometimes drugs will make anomalies out of us and certain things we wouldnt expect happen for no good reason at all. You can never be 100% certain with drugs and how you will react everytime. And when I say you are not experienced again dont take it offensively, when I was 17 I thought I had experienced jsut about it all, and until I went through a couple more years of repeated use I finally realized that its only the beginning, some people on these boards and irl have soo much experience and knowledge its scary....hopefully one of them can give you a better answer than my enzyme answer and "it jsut happens" lol
 
ok now if you were full out hallucinating and such as you just now described that is a different picture than the one i read in the OP. It just seemed like you were exhausted and anxious from your description. ONe thing I have realized is that we dont do drugs, drugs do us...meaning that sometimes drugs will make anomalies out of us and certain things we wouldnt expect happen for no good reason at all. You can never be 100% certain with drugs and how you will react everytime. And when I say you are not experienced again dont take it offensively, when I was 17 I thought I had experienced jsut about it all, and until I went through a couple more years of repeated use I finally realized that its only the beginning, some people on these boards and irl have soo much experience and knowledge its scary....hopefully one of them can give you a better answer than my enzyme answer and "it jsut happens" lol

I appreciate every word of advice you gave. I'm more knowledgeable, that's a better word. I read up on drugs a lot I'm saying, I know about them even if I haven't (or never intend on) doing said substance.

Thanks for the input!
 
it is really good that you actually educate yourself about what you are doing with your body, most people your age are very ignorant when it comes to drugs. Just remember that you can read alll you want but the experience is where you will really learn what its like and what to expect, and so forth....it would be like trying to understand what tripping was to someone who has never taken LSD, you can bring them so far but they will never fully grasp it until they experience it themselves...anyways on an other note you seem like a smart kid, if you havent already read it I would check out The Republic by Plato, im pretty sure you would find it quite fascinating, as I did.
 
it is really good that you actually educate yourself about what you are doing with your body, most people your age are very ignorant when it comes to drugs. Just remember that you can read alll you want but the experience is where you will really learn what its like and what to expect, and so forth....it would be like trying to understand what tripping was to someone who has never taken LSD, you can bring them so far but they will never fully grasp it until they experience it themselves...anyways on an other note you seem like a smart kid, if you havent already read it I would check out The Republic by Plato, im pretty sure you would find it quite fascinating, as I did.

I found that out all to quickly with some substances. As I said, the MDMA I tired was nothing like I had expected even after all my research it still caught me unprepared for a while. I take great steps to separate myself from other adolescent boys who just want to get fucked up. What is The Republic about?
 
The republic is a text from ancient Greece written about 2200 years ago, but is one of the most interesting books on philosophy, perception, and reality. It is the first real look into the question "What is reality?" and Plato hypothesized that our perceptions could only be made from our senses, that everyone's perceptions can be different while none of them are wrong...idk just some trippy stuff like that, but its very interesting stuff, especially when dealing with psychedelics such as LSD,Mescaline, or shrooms
 
I'm somewhat acquainted with Plato and his philosophies but I cannot say I've ever heard of or read that particular text. But that sure does sound right up my alley. I love debating reality and perception. I also love history and psychedelic drugs. It's a win win I suppose. I'll give it a read, thank you for such a outstanding literary recommendation.
 
anytime, I just figured it would be to your liking, once you hit BL status @ 50posts feel free to PM about anything you might have questions about. Welcome to the site!
 
I don't think you read my post completely, I edited it shortly after you posted.
Here's what I added:

After reading it I assume you got serotonin syndrome for a little while. Adderall mainly works on dopamine but it still releases serotonin. It's never a good idea to mix Adderall and MDMA.
 
I don't think you read my post completely, I edited it shortly after you posted.
Here's what I added:

After reading it I assume you got serotonin syndrome for a little while. Adderall mainly works on dopamine but it still releases serotonin. It's never a good idea to mix Adderall and MDMA.

I find that unlikely. The space between the dosages is large and Adderall is not a very efficacious releaser of 5-HT.
 
OP Can I PM you? I was force fed aderall, ritalin and dexedrine at a young age. I would love to talk with you if you felt like it. PM me on here if you'd like. Thanks for a very interesting post. :)
 
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