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Maybe the red and clear capsules actually arent for human consumption. Just because they are duds in humans, doesnt mean that they wont produce SPECTACULAR results in sunflowers..

.. just a thought
 
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Hello all

I have just recieved a free sample off a 'friend', of a 'legal' substance he calls 'Fury'.

Chances are, this is not 6-APB, as it looks nothing like one of the early samples i recieved and tried from one of the 'official' benzofury suppliers - but as he called it 'Fury' i thought i would post it on this thread.

This powder is bright orange 8o , it is clumpy, appears to be a bit damp, and it has a horrible smell, which i find hard to describe - a unique smell.

I have 0.5g of this substance. The 'friend' who supplied it to me, has this in quite large quantities (as i saw it myself), and he only recieved it today (off another 'friend'). He claims it is very good, and I respect this 'friends' opinion.

Has anyone else recently come across a substance like this? I have never seen or heard of anything like it. It could be 6-APB - It could be anything.

Opinions?
 
I have a question. Does anyone know the location of the post where someone actually did a marquis test on a Benzofury™ brand sample of 6-apb?

I think benzofury™ or benzofury brand is a much more accurate statement than "official vendor" since all of the vendors are sketchy to a varying -and for the most part unknown- extent, not to mention the "official vendors" are violating the patent of Lily, the real "official vendor". The context of these threads and use of the phrase "official vendor" by respected members and moderators of this forum I believe is unintentionally giving the impression of safety to many who are mentally incapable of knowing any better. Of course it is important to distinguish the samples which appear to actually be 6-apb -albeit of unknown safety and purity- from things like the dubious capsules which are likely to be an even less safe mixture of unknown compounds of unknown purity, but that could be addressed through other means.

The NMR of the contaminated sample, I'm nearly certain was obtained from a chinese bulk supplier and not conducted by the vendor. This adds yet another layer of reasons to distrust this analysis. Also Since noone has been brave and/or stupid enough to take it, noone can honestly say if it is even the same material on which the analysis was performed.

It worries me that there's respected members describing intravenous of the original benzofury™ sample which is now thought to have been highly contaminated because the dosage for the "cleaner batch" is much less to achieve the same result. Posting this kind of behavior does nothing for harm reduction, and I've seen evidence that it encouraged at least one individual to follow suite once they get the opportunity. Oral use at least has some possibility -albeit not reliably safe- that some of the possibly toxic contaminants may never leave the digestive tract or metabolized by the liver before entering the blood. This is not to say that the 6-apb with the "contaminated NMR" is safe or even 6-apb. It just shows that noone can say that benzofury™, especially the "first synth" which is said to be what is being used in the first batch of pellets to be released is probably very highly contaminated as well. If you are refusing to not take the generic 6-apb out of fear of contamination (and by all means you should have a fear of contamination), assuming that it is indeed actually 6-apb which it very well may not be, then you probably shouldn't be taking benzofury™ brand either since the first pellets will probably filled with unknown contaminants of unknown toxicity as well.

Some people are suggesting a dosage decrease by 20-40% (60-80mg of new batch equals 100mg of old batch) between the first and second batches of brand name material. That's potentially a lot of potentially dangerous contaminants. The bulk quantity synthesis procedure is unknown, making contaminants equally unknown. Then you have some people who have received samples that used this compound 3-4 times in a month, decreasing the body's ability to heal from whatever toxicity may or may not be present or fully eliminate potentially cumulative toxic contaminants.

For the sake of harm reduction, I suggest the following.

1. Do not use any 6-apb parenterally until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

2. Ideally, although I know noone will do this, do not take anything sold as 6-apb at all until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

3. Since many of you will not obey number 2, try to limit use of compound to at most once per month until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

4. Limit use to dosages and sources which have been trialed by others and which is consistently in line with the subjective effects of the desired compound.

5. Do your best to learn about your source and your source's source.

6. Don't take any sample with an appearance different from what you expect of the compound.

7.Only take samples which produce the desired color reaction in a marquis or similar test
 
Don't know if this helps any one but I got an order of 'unnoficial' caps today (ordered them ages ago, I know I shouldn't of bothered :() along with gram of 'mdai'. Both substances look the same (fluffy white powder) although the '6-apb' feels heavier.

I had a small dab of both and they both taste similar with the '6-apb' tasting maybe stronger. The taste is familiar to me but I can't place it. It's a chemical taste with a slight sweetness (not as sweet as some have described I would say)... Anyway here's some pics

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Don't know if it means anything but as they are both from the same vendor it could be the last acts of a desperate vendor trying to offload whatever they can in one powder labeled as things that will sell. I don't think I would touch it but some mates might want to so I will report if they do risk it and if they have any effects or god forbid ill effects...

Also I got slight palpitations after the 'mdai' dab which could be nerves or the first '6-apb' dab or even both...
 
This is making me sick.
Like what the fuck.
6-APB
what would it marquis as.

What if... now this is a big WHAT if...

The guy whose decided to market 6-APB just learned a magical way.
to take 2 or 3 of these different MDMA alternatives
and grinds them up in a blender, mixes them down with water
and then Rerocks the whole entire thing.

then remarkets it as "benzo fury" fundamentally.

If you took Mdai Mdpv and Mephedrone
ground them up and mixed them together.
Would you be able to tell which white salt crystals belonged to which...

The truth is none of you would. I wouldn't.

Alright so now, lets say... for the sake of argument... what i am saying is fundamentally correct...

You guys are on here acting like you are some kind of Serotonergic Aficionados
when honestly you have absolutely NO true honest to fuck way of proving exactly that it is it.

If i mixed mdma and speed together. Most of you, would enjoy it. I know i've enjoyed it.

So You mix MDPV with Mephedrone and MDAI
all chemically aligned to be the perfect amounts suitable to the other. So there isn't too much of one over shadowing the strength of the other
put them in a capsule.
Get a fucking Classy name like BENZO FURY a name all the kids are going to eat up...

and thus you've got a guy... making thousands of dollars, through lying, not being safe, and fundamentally doing the same god damn thing the pharmecutical companies do with ADD pills

Look at the principles behind the whole situation you don't know... you just don't know..
 
Read somewhere that the blue/white caps are duds like the rest of them

Also managed to take a better pic of the marquis:



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Has anyone seen anything react to dark brown like this does?
Can anyone post a marquis of the latest official samples?
 
Turing Machine said:
I have a question. Does anyone know the location of the post where someone actually did a marquis test on a Benzofury™ brand sample of 6-apb?

I think benzofury™ or benzofury brand is a much more accurate statement than "official vendor" since all of the vendors are sketchy to a varying -and for the most part unknown- extent, not to mention the "official vendors" are violating the patent of Lily, the real "official vendor". The context of these threads and use of the phrase "official vendor" by respected members and moderators of this forum I believe is unintentionally giving the impression of safety to many who are mentally incapable of knowing any better. Of course it is important to distinguish the samples which appear to actually be 6-apb -albeit of unknown safety and purity- from things like the dubious capsules which are likely to be an even less safe mixture of unknown compounds of unknown purity, but that could be addressed through other means.

The NMR of the contaminated sample, I'm nearly certain was obtained from a chinese bulk supplier and not conducted by the vendor. This adds yet another layer of reasons to distrust this analysis. Also Since noone has been brave and/or stupid enough to take it, noone can honestly say if it is even the same material on which the analysis was performed.

It worries me that there's respected members describing intravenous of the original benzofury™ sample which is now thought to have been highly contaminated because the dosage for the "cleaner batch" is much less to achieve the same result. Posting this kind of behavior does nothing for harm reduction, and I've seen evidence that it encouraged at least one individual to follow suite once they get the opportunity. Oral use at least has some possibility -albeit not reliably safe- that some of the possibly toxic contaminants may never leave the digestive tract or metabolized by the liver before entering the blood. This is not to say that the 6-apb with the "contaminated NMR" is safe or even 6-apb. It just shows that noone can say that benzofury™, especially the "first synth" which is said to be what is being used in the first batch of pellets to be released is probably very highly contaminated as well. If you are refusing to not take the generic 6-apb out of fear of contamination (and by all means you should have a fear of contamination), assuming that it is indeed actually 6-apb which it very well may not be, then you probably shouldn't be taking benzofury™ brand either since the first pellets will probably filled with unknown contaminants of unknown toxicity as well.

Some people are suggesting a dosage decrease by 20-40% (60-80mg of new batch equals 100mg of old batch) between the first and second batches of brand name material. That's potentially a lot of potentially dangerous contaminants. The bulk quantity synthesis procedure is unknown, making contaminants equally unknown. Then you have some people who have received samples that used this compound 3-4 times in a month, decreasing the body's ability to heal from whatever toxicity may or may not be present or fully eliminate potentially cumulative toxic contaminants.

For the sake of harm reduction, I suggest the following.

1. Do not use any 6-apb parenterally until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

2. Ideally, although I know noone will do this, do not take anything sold as 6-apb at all until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

3. Since many of you will not obey number 2, try to limit use of compound to at most once per month until an analysis has been performed by an independent source.

4. Limit use to dosages and sources which have been trialed by others and which is consistently in line with the subjective effects of the desired compound.

5. Do your best to learn about your source and your source's source.

6. Don't take any sample with an appearance different from what you expect of the compound.

7.Only take samples which produce the desired color reaction in a marquis or similar test
Click to expand...

Great advice here.
 
^ I second Turing Machine's advices. Great bit of HR from his part.

@lowbie: closest thing I've got with Marquis like that I think was MDAI, but that one turned maybe even more blackish... but still in that color area!

By the way, did anyone manage to do a Marquis on the "botched/crystal 6-APB" yet?
 
Psychonautical said:
This is making me sick.
Like what the fuck.
6-APB
what would it marquis as.

What if... now this is a big WHAT if...

The guy whose decided to market 6-APB just learned a magical way.
to take 2 or 3 of these different MDMA alternatives
and grinds them up in a blender, mixes them down with water
and then Rerocks the whole entire thing.

then remarkets it as "benzo fury" fundamentally.

If you took Mdai Mdpv and Mephedrone
ground them up and mixed them together.
Would you be able to tell which white salt crystals belonged to which...

The truth is none of you would. I wouldn't.

Alright so now, lets say... for the sake of argument... what i am saying is fundamentally correct...

You guys are on here acting like you are some kind of Serotonergic Aficionados
when honestly you have absolutely NO true honest to fuck way of proving exactly that it is it.

If i mixed mdma and speed together. Most of you, would enjoy it. I know i've enjoyed it.

So You mix MDPV with Mephedrone and MDAI
all chemically aligned to be the perfect amounts suitable to the other. So there isn't too much of one over shadowing the strength of the other
put them in a capsule.
Get a fucking Classy name like BENZO FURY a name all the kids are going to eat up...

and thus you've got a guy... making thousands of dollars, through lying, not being safe, and fundamentally doing the same god damn thing the pharmecutical companies do with ADD pills

Look at the principles behind the whole situation you don't know... you just don't know..
Click to expand...

be carefull the sheep on here will be feathering and tarring ya for suggesting there 6-apb (benzo fury) is not real hahaha
 
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