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The 6-APB thread (Part 2)

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Jesusgreen said:
I'm a bit sceptical about these "official 5", I did a bit of research, found out who they are, and - on that note, I don't think we should even be allowed to say "official 5" here since it is very easy to find them. I'll edit my post if it's decided that we shouldn't mention them.

Anyway, the first site I went to seemed legit, however upon checking *a vendor review site* I didn't find any positive reports - which seemed odd, I then went to one of the other 5, it warned about buying from non-official vendors, saying that many of them were selling 6-APDB and not 6-APB, then, the third vendor I checked, one of the 5 too, said it was selling 6-APDB and not 6-APB. This seems more than suspicious. I would definitely not assume that whatever you had was 6-APB unless you have had a lab analysis performed on it yourself.

My advice to everyone is to stay away from this chemical, at least for the moment. It seems there are many different chemicals going around, and there's a very good chance that none of them are the genuine article.
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I agree... all may not be what it seems, I've done a little digging and all my lines of inquiry end badly, I so want this to be real, I have what I believe to be 'interesting' information (may be nothing?) but I don't want to break the rules, all I'll say is this: please don't throw loads of cash at this, only spend what you can afford to lose or be disappointed by, wish I could go into detail, and I hope I'm totally wrong, but based on what I've found out and general all round paranoia the word 'official' doesn't mean 'angel', 'honest' or 'has your best interest at heart' the brand Benzo Fury has been created so they can completely own the market and charge high prices because they are businesses out to make money first and foremost.
 
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Idiot Alert!

Scoobysnacks said:
EDIT , what am i thinking it is AMT, with smell masked , fuck you big 5, ya been rumbled, o and the reason the originals went blue when tested was because they were a mdma / amt mix
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ScoobyTwat - you're a moron of the highest order - you and everyone else on this forum know that - end of!
Get a life and move on - find somewhere else to spread your miscreant information!
 
Thought I'd mention that I know the main culprit involved in the sale of this substance & anyone who still has any sinuses left will *probably* recognise that unmistakeable smell of methedrone unless they buy carefully!

edit. don't bother, go down the local headshop & pay over the odds bigtime for what you want. To be honest, I'd rather pay x3 the price charged by online sites to know exactly what I'm getting.

Then again I know the staff at my local bongmerchants & trust them implicitly, so its all relative....
 
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jblz said:
Okay, I have a g on the way from a 'trusted' vendor who hasn't let me down in the past, and as they're out of my favourite combo I'm gonna give this shit a shot.
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The vendor is also offering third party NMR's on it. Can I post this in ADD or here and get a decent answer on whether or not this is the real shit?
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hmm I believe I just received 1g from this vendor.

Has anyone tried this? I don't feel like being the guinea pig..

It worries me that it's white rather than tan like the "official sample" I had a couple of weeks ago.

Image below (click for larger version).. can anyone who had the "improved synth" comment? hard of course to tell one white powder from another :p


 
RC Ninja said:
ScoobyTwat - you're a moron of the highest order - you and everyone else on this forum know that - end of!
Get a life and move on - find somewhere else to spread your miscreant information!
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I agree with your assesment of Scooby, but it is a worry for me that the samples sent out as BF may not actually be 6-apb.. either as a smokescreen to get competitors working hard to synth the wrong chem, or just as part of a big scam by the main vendor.

If that's the case the sample I recived today (see above) will give incorrect effects even if the vendor is on the level.

Hiding the scent of AMT seems a bit fanciful though..
 
The remarks about first and second synthesis or batch, one being much more potent than the other worry me.

I subscribe to the words of caution from everyone here so far and this vagueness about batches makes it all the more dubious. What is worse, different batches being different compounds altogether - then, are they novel compounds or just known drugs marketed otherwise? Or sloppy syntheses with yields so bad that the impurities become quite troubling?

Yes I have had a period in which my primary goal was to be pioneering. That was with 4-FMC and several other stimulants around the time they appeared on the market. Luckily my samples were fine but much later it shocked me to think about putting powders in my body purely on the trust of some shady vendor.
Don't realize that afterwards like me, realize that now before you do anything. Listen to Catfish and other people who make a point waking people up before they make bad decisions for very bad reasons that aren't worth your health or life at all.

Seriously. Wait it out until someone actually produces a cerficate of analysis and mind all the other wonderful and more researched compounds!!
 
FJ1 said:
I agree with your assesment of Scooby, but it is a worry for me that the samples sent out as BF may not actually be 6-apb.. either as a smokescreen to get competitors working hard to synth the wrong chem, or just as part of a big scam by the main vendor.

If that's the case the sample I recived today (see above) will give incorrect effects even if the vendor is on the level.

Hiding the scent of AMT seems a bit fanciful though..
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i really dont mind ya asseessment, ya just a name on a screen mate, just glad its got ya thinking, no need for insults for expresssing my views, im not flaming, cursing or insulting anyone, just my opinion, have ya thought maybe why the pellets are gonna be made purple????, so they cant be tested, another one for ya to mull over, and i ask why purple, its a horrible colour dark and shit, ya wd of gone for yellow or pink haha
 
Solipsis said:
The remarks about first and second synthesis or batch, one being much more potent than the other worry me.

I subscribe to the words of caution from everyone here so far and this vagueness about batches makes it all the more dubious. What is worse, different batches being different compounds altogether - then, are they novel compounds or just known drugs marketed otherwise? Or sloppy syntheses with yields so bad that the impurities become quite troubling?

Yes I have had a period in which my primary goal was to be pioneering. That was with 4-FMC and several other stimulants around the time they appeared on the market. Luckily my samples were fine but much later it shocked me to think about putting powders in my body purely on the trust of some shady vendor.
Don't realize that afterwards like me, realize that now before you do anything. Listen to Catfish and other people who make a point waking people up before they make bad decisions for very bad reasons that aren't worth your health or life at all.

Seriously. Wait it out until someone actually produces a cerficate of analysis and mind all the other wonderful and more researched compounds!!
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You know, while I agree with this wholeheartedly, 90% of the people on BL will continue to put away grams of unknown powders for the time being.
 
Jmax said:
You know, while I agree with this wholeheartedly, 90% of the people on BL will continue to put away grams of unknown powders for the time being.
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Well maybe next month it'll dip to 89% if we don't give up trying to change the way this all happens. Or maybe it'll never get any better despite our best efforts...that may be the case, but it would really suck if it got any worse, that much I am sure of.
 
Attempt to create brand for a new RC is clever. It's well-documented, experimentally, that people subjectively report stronger effects from identical quantity and quality of (say) paracetamol in a well-known brand than from the same quantity and quality of generically labelled paracetamol. So, even if the so-called official retailers send out the same quantity and quality of the same chemical as unofficial retailers, if the branding exercise has been a success customers may genuinely believe they have experienced stronger or better effects from the official than the unofficial product. Just something to be aware of, I think.

Also, the colour of a pill or capsule can impact on perceived effects (e.g. stimulant vs sedative) over and above the effect of actual contents of the pill or capsule. :)
 
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(hemist said:
Have you bitten the bullet and sampled your purchase yet?
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Nope.

I'd consider being number two if number one was someone with a history of good posts here, but number one is a step too far for me :)

Given my post count I probably wouldn't be believed anyway, so there's not much point being hte groundbreaker :p
 
jblz said:
Sorry.. didn't look at them before I posted as they would mean nothing to me, opened them and they're waterstamped with the vendor address.
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For the record, here are the NMRs with waterstamp removed.





 
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FJ1 said:
Nope.

I'd consider being number two if number one was someone with a history of good posts here, but number one is a step too far for me :)

Given my post count I probably wouldn't be believed anyway, so there's not much point being hte groundbreaker :p
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Yes, you got a compelling point there FJ1.
Good chance of being flamed by the molecular engineer level educated ScoobyTwat and preached that, in his reality it's an amt/mdat/mdma/bp colour shifted, disguised cocktail that you took delivery of and it was first synthesized by little green men driving a pink Lada down the High Street shouting at the top of their voices -
"6-APB cannot be synthesised - Do not be fooled earthlings - It's all been a galactic lie!"=D
 
FJ1 said:
For the record, here are the NMRs with waterstamp removed.
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Sorry for spam posting on this thread, but I was about to repost over to ADD, and it seems that they have already analysed this NMR and don't like it.

MurphyClox said:
- The impurities come most likely from an amateurish purification procedure and include both solvents AND synthesis intermediates. Synthesis discussion is verboten here, so you have to find out on your own what the usual synthesis are, and therefore, how the expected intermediates look like.
- The exact nature of the impurities is uncertain, but most likely contains acetone + X.
- The risk when ingesting this batch without further purification are...goddamnit uncertain. Take some (...nah! take A LOT!) and find it out! NOBODY can tell you what these impurities are nor what they can cause.
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Link to thread

As I posted there, dissolved a bit in water.. I estimate at least 10% did not dissolve, but either stayed on the bottom, or floated on the top.

(In case you were wondering, I didn't take it)
 
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