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The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

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Yup. Not for a while though so can't remember the doses I used. I probably mentioned it somewhere in this thread - I definitely did in PD Social and the Staff Forum, not that that's much use to you 8)

I think my doses were in the 5-20mg range and maybe a lil higher with experience. What I can say for sure is that it's probably the only 2C (other than maybe 2C-C and possibly 2C-I... although both have issues when IV'd) that I can honestly say I enjoy IV and would repeat. Felt quite similar to MDMA with added swirls to me and retained it's unique effect on music that I love (but some others don't seem to get from it). Duration is reduced to an hour max but with IV that's to be expected. No particularly unpleasant downsides or aftereffects I can recall. Tentatively recommended :)

Not had 2C-D for a long time and now getting all nostalgic seeing this thread bumped. May have to add some to my lengthy To Order list and hope that some time I'll have enough cash to actually order anything on that list :D

How have I not seen this post?!?

Sounds like something I'd like to try. Your really think most 2Cxs only last ~1 hour IV'd? My 2C-I and 2C-T-2 IV trials were at least 3.5-4 hours long. Wonder if you ate some and IV'd it. Could be interesting =D
 
Here's the log I kept from my trip on 6/23. I dosed at midnight.

12:00 - Ingested 50mg 2C-D. I mixed it with about 2x volume of sprite, but I could still taste it a bit. Washed it down with some pure sprite in an already prepared second glass, this is getting rid of the taste, but there is still a remnant. I took Zyrtec (an anti-hystamine) at about 11:50 to combat any potential nausea caused by the food I ate at around 11:30 (Two slices of bread, some M&M's, and a granola bar). I am going to now make some preparations for later. I am going to move the laptop, laptop charger, and camera into the basement, where I intend to spend the plateau. Also, I'm going to install XaoS, a fractal program, on my laptop.

12:14 - First alert. I felt the "phenethylamine buzz". It kind of shot up the left side of my head. It was brief, but in the time its taken me to type this far, it has become constant. Thoughts racing. Still watching Star Trek Enterprise. Its tense nature may make it a bad idea right now. The bright white of the monitor screen seems to be flickering a little.

12:17 - I just peed. Slight visual distortions are beginning.

12:19 - I'm getting that numb feeling in my mouth, that I had previously compared to like when you get home from the dentist. Its a good bit weaker though. I feel very speedy. Time also seems to be distorted (I was expecting it to be later than it actually was).

12:25 - I thought the blinds next to me were swinging. Nope.

12:30 - Thoughts are still racing. Blinds are still moving. They kind of looked like they were melting a second ago. Time is still distorted.

12:36 - I think I have to be careful here. (I don't remember why I thought to write that, and its only about a minute later. Strange. I think it had something to do with my thought processes.)

12:40 - Time is passing in small chunks. I keep looking at the clock expecting it to be later than it is - but apparently I've been looking at the clock a lot because its already 12:40.

1:12 - I feel as though its time I made another entry. Thoughts are still happening much faster than my fingers care to write them down. The amount of stuff I just thought about in the time it took me to write that sentence - either I need to improve my typing skills or I am thinking REALLY fast.

1:16 - My head has never been so full of thoughts. None of them are particularly useful thoughts. But the sheer volume is intense. Being alone has made it easier for me to have introspective sorts of thoughts. The drug has not made it easier to write them down at this time.

1:34 - I nearly got sucked into my own face, while listening to Metallica's King Nothing, and looking at my reflection in the fish tank, illuminated by the glow of the laptop screen. Very strange. I'm having thoughts I feel were likely precipitated by the fact that I was viewing fractals earlier.

1:52 - I was just staring at my face in the mirror for 18 minutes. I think I associate dogs with evil.

2:04 - Things keep feeling like they are creeping in from the side of my vision, but I know they aren't.

2:25 - My thoughts seem to have returned to their normal pace. I'm still experiencing visuals at the strength I was before though. I wonder if this is like being in the eye of a hurricane.

2:29 I can hear my laptop working as I use XaoS. I don't think the drug has enhanced my ability to hear the fan spinning, but perhaps it has enhanced my ability to pay attention to it.

2:57 - I'm hungry.

3:03 - I'm back downstairs, and now I have some more M&M's and bread. I keep worrying that the drug has worn off, and thinking that I really don't want it to. And it hasn't, yet.

3:20 - I was beginning to think that it had ended. But, just now, I noticed some much milder visual effects.

3:51 - Its late. I'm tired. I'm going to sleep.

4:09 - I watched another episode of Whose Line. Now I'm really going.
 
since 2c-d seems to be THE ONE to plug due to its cost versus effects ratio,
i have a few basic questions particular to this (and maybe) all 2c-x's

1. how many ml of water for say, 30 mg?

2. how long do you have to lay on your side?


(the plugging faq says 20/25 minutes...is this true of 2c-x's as well?


thanks
 
Can anyone compare the come-up of 2C-D to 4-AcO-DMT? I understand both are supposed to be relatively easy, but I was just wondering if one is smoother than the other.

I ask because I ingested 95mg of 2C-D last night and had a bit of a rough time during the come-up.
 
^95mg is a pretty large dose; 2C-D always seems to just hit me, all at once, at about +30mins if eaten...But I've never found it to be rough at all, maybe a bit energetic but very tolerable. 4-AcO-DMT can have a much rogher comeup.

I would suggest nasal use of 2C-D myself; much smaller doses, and you can keep dosing for a good bit too. zI find its overall effect to be pretty simple; colourful, fun and a little bit strange- but mainly just fun :). Still very psychedelic in the profundity of thought that can occurr, but I find myself often laughing my face off on 2C-D.

Over 100mg's is where it gets very psychedelic.
 
I'm relatively new to psychedelics, and 2C-D is the only substance I've ever tried. I don't really know if this is normal, or has happened to anyone else, but somehow the thought got into my head that I was dying. It must have been some sort of psychosomatic reaction, but my heart was racing, and I felt like my body temperature increased, and I was certainly sweating a good bit.

I eventually was able to calm myself down by thinking about what dying would actually feel like. I rationalized that I would be able to feel something much worse than what I was at that moment, and as such, I was OK.

But man, I think that was the most scared I've ever been in my life.
 
Thinking you are going to die is the most commun reaction to psychedelics, dysociatives and even cannabis at some dose.
You'll get use to it.
Btw, 60 mg 2CD plugged just let me laughing for an hour, not any visuals or mindfuck or bodyload.
A rather empty trip, may be more deep associate with other stuff.
 
Thanks for the reassurance. I'll be sure to post again after the next time I try it, hopefully with a more positive experience.
 
Anxiety (often from taking too much of a drug) + tripping very often produces a fear that one is dying.

And, 2C-D is imo a shitty psychedelic - might be good in combo, but it lacks any of the positive push or euphoria that comes with other psyches, and i often end up thinking negatively (not scared/freaked out, just sorta depressed)
 
Thanks for the reassurance. I'll be sure to post again after the next time I try it, hopefully with a more positive experience.

The very best trips come from accepting your death and letting go. It's terrifying, until you let go and wake up from some silly dream you were just having that you were something called a human and remember that you're actually something so much more.
 
My first 2-CD experience was pre Web Tryp, and I had an intense full-on psychedelic experience at 50 mg. Last weekend I tried 30 mg oral with no effects, following the night before of another failed attempt at 4 ACO DMT which I can't seem to break through on. A good break is certainly on the agenda for me, I think my brain just needs to reset.

Tonight on impulse I decided to snort 24 mg (2c-d that is). Intense visuals commenced immediately, (and a word of caution here for those choosing this route) followed by 2 trips to the toilet to vomit (which I've never had issue with via oral ROA). Besides the visuals no real euphoria to speak of (or anxiety for that matter), or really any feelings of intensity whatsoever. It's like I was tripping with nothing but visuals, but otherwise unaltered or "stoned" in any recognizable way.

But as I was eluding to I've been indulging (i.e. abusing) way too much recently on a number of materials, and a recent methylone binge (something I will NEVER repeat) I feel has left me depleted on a number of levels, so take of it what you will. I will revisit with oral dosage after a long break, hoping the true psychedelic nature will manifest once again. Hopefully the same will ring true with 4 ACO DMT, as I'm currently incredibly disappointed with what everyone is calling the best thing since sliced bread (however my tolerance and response to 4 ACO MET and 4 HO MET remain pretty consistent with the "norm", so my brain just might be weird in this respect).

But anywho, I'm definitely interested (after further exploration with various oral dosages after my break) in combing this with a tryptamine. Current contenders (being those I currently have access to) are 4 ACO DMT, 4 HO MET, 4 ACO MET, and 4 ACO DIPT. Anyone have experience with any of these combos? I expect good results, but of course I could be dead wrong (wouldn't be the first time ;) ).
 
since 2c-d seems to be THE ONE to plug due to its cost versus effects ratio,
i have a few basic questions particular to this (and maybe) all 2c-x's

1. how many ml of water for say, 30 mg?

2. how long do you have to lay on your side?


(the plugging faq says 20/25 minutes...is this true of 2c-x's as well?


thanks

Better late than never...

1 - I use 2ml cos that's the smallest oral syringe I have but 1ml would likely work if you have a suitable implement.

2 - I don't. No need to lie on your side, back or anything else for any longer than it takes to squirt and remove. I even plug standing up sometimes. Doesn't hurt to lie about for however long you fancy buy make zero difference either way, in my experience.

Also, 30mg is a pretty hefty rectal dose - approximately equivalent to 60mg oral. 2Cs are basically all double oral potency when plugged, in my experience.
 
Tonight on impulse I decided to snort 24 mg (2c-d that is). Intense visuals commenced immediately, (and a word of caution here for those choosing this route) followed by 2 trips to the toilet to vomit (which I've never had issue with via oral ROA).

How painful was it to snort (say, compared to the other 2c's)? Did you snort it quickly (24mg seems like a lot to snort of a phenethalmine..)? In terms of the vomiting, I find that interesting as snorting has fewer such effects for me for other 2c's at least. Then again, I tend to insuffalate slowly over ~30 minutes.

Besides the visuals no real eauphoria to speak of (or anxiety for that matter), or really any feelings of intensity whatsoever. It's like I was tripping with nothing but visuals, but otherwise unaltered or "stoned" in any recognizable way.

Did you smoke weed as well? My last 2c-d trip a few weeks ago was mostly successful because of the synergy with weed. I came away not being too impressed in the end however, and was considering snoring for the next attempt in the hopes of better effects, but sounds like not from your description.

I know that a lot of respectable/knowledgeable people in PD consider 2c-d to be one of the better psychedelics out there. I don't doubt their experiences, but wonder why mine haven't compared. I guess every physiology/psychology reacts differently to each of these slightly different drugs.
 
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Not addressed to me but 2C-D is by far the least painful 2C I've snorted. It's smokeable but I wouldn't really advise it cos the effects are short-lived, "thin" feeling and generally a bit shit. I rather like it IV but is also short-lived - instant peak is kinda sweet though. Oral or plugging are my favourite ROA for 2C-D with snorting not far behind.
 
How painful was it to snort (say, compared to the other 2c's)? Did you snort it quickly (24mg seems like a lot to snort of a phenethalmine..)? In terms of the vomiting, I find that interesting as snorting has fewer such effects for me for other 2c's at least. Then again, I tend to insuffalate slowly over ~30 minutes.

It stung somewhat, I'd say slightly less than good meth. The drip was disgusting, and reminded me of burnt rubber. I snorted it in 3 piles, but spaced very closely together (only a few minutes), so I may have well did the whole rail at once.


Did you smoke weed as well? My last 2c-d trip a few weeks ago was mostly successful because of the synergy with weed. I came away not being too impressed in the end however, and was considering snoring for the next attempt in the hopes of better effects, but sounds like not from your description.

I know that a lot of respectable/knowledgeable people in PD consider 2c-d to be one of the better psychedelics out there. I don't doubt their experiences, but wonder why mine haven't compared. I guess every physiology/psychology reacts differently to each of these slightly different drugs.

No weed, although I'm sure that will be in the cards at some point. I have to pick and choose when I smoke carefully, as the after-effects from cannabis can be debilitating for me. My brain can get cloudy and groggy for weeks after a heavy smoking season, even with very high quality stuff. My overall stress tolerance threshold is greatly lowered as well. With my job being as stressful and mentally demanding as it often is, this does not bode well for me.

I still feel this material shows promise, as my first experience definitely showed that to me. Combos with tryps of other PEA's I'm certain will yield good results (when I find the right combo that is). Unless my brain chemistry has been altered too much since that first experience years ago, which could be an issue. But I think the main issue here is over-use of psychs in general as of late. The methylone binge may be the biggest culprit, as I probably have moderate to severe serotonin and dopamine depletion (I have been very depressed over the last week, finally starting to clear out of the funk).

I'm definitely not giving up on this one.
 
I'm thinking of eating 10mg in a bit as a 'smart drug'. Also thinking of passing the time by watching movies. I'd like to do this to get aquainted with this compound before moving up to the more psychedelic ranges.

What is the chance I'll be able to focus on the movies as this is going on? And should I lower dosage? I don't want anything too noticable but enough to shake hands.
 
Thinking of dosing 2c-d again but haven't officially decided. It is by far my favorite substance so I am looking forward to it but it is not such an easy decision for me at this point in my life.

Over two years ago I tripped on 3 blotters of LSD while high as a kite on MDPV... unfortunetly I hadn't slept in over 3 days and suffice it to say, I had a horrible experience. My decision to drop LSD was a bad one, but I was too high on mdpv and too sleep deprived to make sound decisions. I learned a difficult lesson that night.

Anywho, I haven't tripped on anything since then except for a couple of very low dose 2c-b trips. The trip on LSD and mdpv was quite a train wreck and took almost a year to fully integrate and recover from.

But I have worked through things as best I can and the low 2c-b doses I have taken (many months ago) have shown me that I feel prepared to not only trip again but also to face myself and those problems that arose last time (and likely any new ones that may arise).

I am thinking of taking 80mg of 2c-d. I have taken 2c-d in doses up to 120mg (which was fantastic) but most of experimenting was done when I had tolerances to tripping. If I recall correctly though, I believe 80mg is a dose strong enough for me to have a decent heavy trip but not so much that I will be overwhelmed.

2c-d is an easy one anyways, but I feel I should proceed cautiously. Anyone have any comments on 80mg of 2c-d? My only concern is I may be aiming a bit high as most of my previous experiences were tainted by tolerance, but at the same time, I don't want to underdose as I really only get the chance to trip once or twice a year these days.
 
while i have no specific experience with 2C-D (it's on my list)

since most of my reading indicates that 2C-D especially in high doses will kick in fairly quickly compared to other 2C-X, i might suggest that you split your 80mg dose into two or three smaller doses so you can gradually bring yourself up to where you want to be. like 50mg first, wait one hour, take the other 30mg if you feel like it.

another option is the staggered come-up, in which you would take 30mg first to reacquaint your body/mind with the tripping phase, then blast off with +50mg after you're comfortable with your set/setting. i know 2C-D is not known for its rough come-ups, but it's an option that you may find enjoyable.
 
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