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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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The first time I did MDAI was in a bomb with meph and m1 (maybe 250mg powders in total) and it seemed to extend the life of that combo by quite a bit.
 
^Yeah, I may not have to re-dose MDAI at all, since aMT inhibits the reuptake of serotonin as well as releases it everything will be extended in duration. The redose plan is mostly just because I'm going to low ball the MDAI dose and wait to see if there's serotonin overload. I'm just not certain what that first dose should be given the doses of the other drugs involved -- was thinking 35 mg plugged.
 
anyone done over 500mg of this? contemlating sticking another 200mg under my tongue and drinking the rest of my whisky, but wanna be sharp for the game tomorow... decisions decisions
 
I did 500mg last weekend (my 1st time doing it on its own), but my batch is possibly weak. Kept me up all night, plus I ended up with 'stim shakes' even tho it's not that stimulating!
 
Psood0nym: I really wouldn't like to guess at dosages in a combo like that as I have no experience of aMT with amphetamines. I do, however, have some experience of aMT with MDMA which I guess would have some slight similarities. Obviously not quite the same combo at all, but when I combined aMT with MDMA and LSD I used the same doses of both of the latter I usually would and it was truly a thing of great beauty.

I could definitely see MDAI going great with aMT and it's laid back chilledness would likely enjoy an amphetamine tickle to perk it up - especially if you are one of those who find aMT can also be a bit less than stimulating sometimes.

I have not plugged MDAI but I have used it IV a coupla times and found my favoured dose was around 100-150mg. Certainly was strong but far from uncomfortable or overwhelming. That seems to be not too far off many folks oral doses for moderate effects so suspect the oral BA must be pretty high so maybe plugging isn't massively more potent... but then I find it is with MDMA which I would often use at similar doses (although often somewhat higher cos I like a good kicking from it sometimes :D) IV and orally but found plugging had way more kick than I was expecting.

Hmm... Some or none of the above may have some possible use in regards to your question, Psoodo. Must admit I doubt it now having re-read it but took too long to type to be able to bring myself to delete it now :D
 
only problem with boozing on this - judgement - or lack of it. just put another 200mg under my tongue. thing is i know there's probably no good reason for this... other than its there.
 
I went out for my walk - street lights looked a bit brighter and the moon a bit more orange! But it is fading. Wish I had more drugs in the house (other than booze!). :X
 
tomorrow's headfuck notwithstanding, i definitely think this is better at high doses. i reckon 500mg bombed/sub'd would be a real nice hit
 
Thanks Shambles. The MDMA comparison is appropriate, as like MDAI it's another powerful serotonin releaser and serotonin overload is what I'm concerned about. It sounds like 35 mg plugged won't be too high, so I'll just start with that and gauge my 2nd dose from there.
 
music appreciation incredible at 700mg plus (over a good few hours). New Eminem album Recovery, unbelievable - those who are into hip hop - boy can spit. unbelievable.
 
Osky_P said:
tomorrow's headfuck notwithstanding, i definitely think this is better at high doses. i reckon 500mg bombed/sub'd would be a real nice hit
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Hmmm. Think once you get past a certain amount you don't get any higher as such, just more negative effects - sweating, shaking, inability to sleep for a good while (although that could be a good thing).

I haven't really found it that good for music appreciation. Tried to have a 'headphones session' but didn't last.

What does your stuff look like, Osky?
 
^ i've been dancing like a daft cunt in my living room mate. prolly the whisky haha.

no sweating or shaking. not anymore than usual anyway
 
Osky_P said:
music appreciation incredible at 700mg plus (over a good few hours). New Eminem album Recovery, unbelievable - those who are into hip hop - boy can spit. unbelievable.
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Careful with those dosages people. Your brain's going to be buzzing like a bug zapper in a swamp over the next few days if you don't take it easy. If you want strong euphoria with MDAI I think combining standard doses with a dopamine reuptake inhibitor or releaser is the way to go rather than take such enormous doses. Despite the fact that it's not neurotoxic losing that much serotonin is something your bound to feel soon or later. Coca tea, ritalin, and GBL are all super easy to obtain if you can't get amphetamine or something else preferable. Hell, isn't dihydrocodeine available in the UK OTC? That would probably mix alright, too.
 
^ like I said earlier - alcohol's a fucker for for one's judgment. thanks for good advice though, gonna call it a night soon. ;)
 
psood0nym said:
Thanks Shambles. The MDMA comparison is appropriate, as like MDAI it's another powerful serotonin releaser and serotonin overload is what I'm concerned about. It sounds like 35 mg plugged won't be too high, so I'll just start with that and gauge my 2nd dose from there.
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I was rather foolhardy in diving into the combo I mentioned without researching it at all - one of those completely spur of the moment thangs - and only later realised that there was some possible potential for mischief there. Must admit I was perfectly fine (and then some =D) even though I used around 500mg of MDMA over the course of the night - mostly IV. From my own and others experience, MDMA + aMT seems to be reasonably safe and would imagine MDAI would be somewhat similar.

Incidentally, I have since come a cropper with Serotonin Syndrome once and I most certainly never had even a hint of that on the combo I mentioned. Certainly no doctor or chemist, but would suspect 35mg MDAI rectal would be - at worst - underwhelming but obviously that's not always a bad thing and redosing seems quite effective with MDAI.

Do please report back if/when you do cos that sounds like it has a lotta potential :)
 
^^ have to say though - (i'm no advocate of MDAI only using tonight cos I was burned on a so-called gram of 6-APB) - higher dose does provide that emphatic, face chewing mdma-esque feeling. very very subtle at low doses admittedly, but is it not a possiblilty that the folk are underdosing to insignificant effects?

I appreciate the dopamine aspect, but surely a high dose of this (seratonin depletion notwithstanding) would be better, neurotoxically speaking, than combining for a dopamine response??

i mean lets face it most of us on here probably ran out of serotonin sometime in the mid-nineties anyway :)

i aint no pharmacology expert, just an old E head getting into the RC scene ;)
 
^Well, I assume nobody is using it in combination with a DARI or releaser frequently. We know that MDAI has no neurotoxic metabolites, but what do we know about the potentially damaging effects of having very low zero serotonin for a few days in humans? One theory holds that brain zaps are isolated seizure-like activity, and seizures do cause some brain damage. I'm no expert either, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though in this way using high doses of MDAI could cause more damage than using standard doses of it with a DARI or releaser via its brain zapping effects later on (or some unknown effect of having very low serotonin levels).
 
^ intersting and i see your point completely. what are your thoughts on prozac, or some such SSRI, which could assist in such serotonin depletion?
 
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