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whats the point of extracting mescaline?

Hah, well Changed...I seem to remember the last time you consumed cactus not too long ago even You complaining about the taste.
 
of course I did, because it tastes legitimately horrible, but it was maybe 2 shots worth. drink it with a chaser of orange juice and the experience is over in seconds. you just have to cook it down to a very small amount. the entire process from chopping the cactus to drinking it can take less than 2 hours. no chemistry, no worrying about messing up the process. drink with ginger on an empty stomach, no nausea whatsoever.

and again the trip from 12 inches of brewed san pedro is one hell of a thing.
 
So your process would be chopping cactus up, boiling for a couple hours and filtering...then boling down to a couple shots?

I'm curently doing a simple alcohol extraction which simples bout as simple.
 
not everyone wants to trip with a bodyload of catcus goup in their stomach. everyone's digestive system reacts slightly different to every single plant protein out there. the proteins in cacti arent exactly native to every race and ethnicity's traditional dietary "template," and thus their bodies will react more or less strongly to the plant matter in cactus.

combine a slight bit (or perhaps even, heavy bit) of body discomfort from breaking down and digesting a cactus youve never really had in your body for many many generations of genetic history, plus the heightened sensitivity of a psychedelic experience, and you may find you cant fully enjoy or explore your trip with an anchor in your tummy.

im the kinda guy that drinks a beer or two while railing large lines of ketamine and attempting to balance myself horizontally on one foot, doing upside down pushups, or other balance related activities, and never ever get any gastro intestinal discomfort (same for any drugs, really). i have friends who simply dont even like to be standing while in the same headspace as their stomach starts to heave. everyone is different, slightly more or less sensitive to any experience than you are.

if ill have more freedom of movement, more acute high, more overall enjoyable experience with a cantankerous extraction vs a brute force blend n chug, ill extract.
 
adrian89987 said:
So your process would be chopping cactus up, boiling for a couple hours and filtering...then boling down to a couple shots?

I'm curently doing a simple alcohol extraction which simples bout as simple.
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chop entire cactus
blend in blender with water
cook on medium heat for an hour w/ a splash of lemon juice
strain the chunks through a t-shirt, squeezing all the juice from the pulp
throw pulp to the birds
add a splash of water to your strained cactus tea
cook down to 1 shots worth (less than an hour on medium heat)
drink ginger tea
take shot of mescaline tea
???
trip balls
 
Most people don't just extract one trip's worth at a time though, so in the end I bet you spend more time prepping your tea 10 times than someone who extracts 10 doses in one go.
 
mahatoka said:
Most people don't just extract one trip's worth at a time though, so in the end I bet you spend more time prepping your tea 10 times than someone who extracts 10 doses in one go.
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are you a dealer?
 
No, are you incapable of understanding that it's economical and time saving to extract more than one dose at a time? Mescaline hcl is a very stable compound, there's no point in going through the process unless you're gonna get a few grams, which isn't that much cactus anyway. What a rude thing to say, all I'm doing is offering up my input like you were. Who the fuck deals mescaline anyway?
 
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I don't see why more than one dose would be needed. I think most people don't have the desire to trip enough to consume 10 doses in a timely manner.
 
Mescaline has been found to be stable longer than you will be alive. And it's extremely easy to consume 3-4 grams of it in a year. I also share with friends because my group of friends is like that. Keep brewing your tea, I'll keep extracting.
 
Ya, that's the thing, there's tons of extraction teks, and after a brief readthrough of the limonene one, I think I might give that a try next. Another reason why people like to extract is because a lot of people generally enjoy spending time doing it, and like learning about the chemistry involved and about the different teks. It's hands on fun.
 
I'm wondering here, was the OP talking about a full extraction to crystal? I mean ... surely none here would be silly enough to simply chomp on a 12" chunk of cacti? Surely?

I've always made teas to great success. 70g of cactus with lemon juice slowly boiling in a liter and a half of water, boiled down to somewhere between half a mug and a shot glass of thick, foul tasting syrup. A few bits of crystalline ginger (and some ginger hobnobs if you're feeling decadent) 45 minutes before consumption always seems to curb the worst of the nausea, and to that recipe I've had full plus three's, verging on plus fours that make my wildest LSD trips look like childs play.

The only reason I've always followed this procedure rather than the d-Limonene or A.B.-extraction was because I was always led to believe that there's some funky shit (other alkaloids) besides mescaline which is/are active and contained within Trichocereus peruvianus, Trichocereus pachanoi and Lophophora williamsii.

Whilst the taste is unpleasant, and the nausea often unwelcomed, I feel it's all part of the experience and should be appreciated as such.

I've often wondered (and seen it suggested many times before) whether these would have any effect on the taste of cactus tea. Anyone ever tried?
 
now I'm interested in trying these extraction teks... I have to know whether an extracted trip can rival that of 12 inches brewed!!
 
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I have to know whether an extracted trip can rival that of 12 inches brewed!!
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Obviously it can. You could always extract more mescaline then a 12 incher could ever hold. I can't even remember how much mescaline is supposed to be per inch because I haven't worked with fresh material in so long but find the ceiling and take like 100 mgs more.
 
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Obviously it can. You could always extract more mescaline then a 12 incher could ever hold. I can't even remember how much mescaline is supposed to be per inch because I haven't worked with fresh material in so long but find the ceiling and take like 100 mgs more.
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I think he means, 12 inch extracted vs. 12 inches brewed.
 
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