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Regional Pill Discussion: North East v3

Thats just dumb. H has a VERY low bioavailability if swallowed. You have no facts.

Even if an opiate naie person swallowed a whole 100mg bag of H theyd be fine considering it has like a 10 or 20% ba.


A lot of what you're saying has no relation to anything I've said. All I said were things that are KNOWN. Many people think that H rolls are just a myth, and maybe they are today, but there are still thousands upon thousands of roll that never get tested. There are documented H cut rolls. I never said anyone has ever died or gotten injured because of H rolls. Get off your high horse of shoving bullshit down my throat about shit I never even said. Stop ranting and just look at facts.



How doesn't it make sense? More money is MORE MONEY. I'm sorry, but no successful drug dealers get anywhere by being nice to everyone.
 
a pill presser cutn pills with dope is gunna be broke and a dope dealer cutn pills with his dope will not have any money. i want to see cold hard actual links and facts to make me believe "smack tabs" are real and not just a marketing gimmick
 
Now we're just arguing which is more expensive to produce, and I'm saying without a doubt, heroin is cheaper to produce.
Maybe for the South American or Asian warlord, it is. But for us hard working, honest Americans...its cheaper and easier to make MDMA. If heroin is so cheap to produce then why isn't every junkie doing so?
 
palli your a just arguing for arguing sake. just admit tearyouup is right and move along.

derailment off subject here: i got my takehome doses from the clinic now so i only gotta go once a week now went ahead and double dosed so 240mgs has me feeling good. and off work allready and fixin to take my buddy to the dr office. he cuts his x pills with hydromorphone cause its cheaper to produce
 
@ delsyd the mod yeah ive been doing mdma for almost ten years now so yeah its safe to assume ive done mdma and yes i know mdma can make u feel lazt but i only get the dopey feelin on K pills where i dont wanna move enen with the molly i dont get as dopey im still fuckin shit up glowstringing
 
Now we're just arguing which is more expensive to produce, and I'm saying without a doubt, heroin is cheaper to produce.


I think the point that people are trying to make here is that it really doesn't matter which is more expensive to produce, what matters is that heroin is definitely more expensive to produce than fillers- so a producer is losing money by not selling heroin as heroin, but instead using it as essentially a filler, because it does not have a significant effect on the user. If the producer has access to MDMA and heroin, why not sell MDMA and heroin and use fillers to bulk up the pills? It makes no logical sense to use heroin as a filler- especially because it wouldn't actually be enough to feel. So, thinking of it as losing money by not selling two different products, and thus not making twice the $$, yes the producer is preventing themselves from making more money than they could.

As far as I know, MDEA in pills has made people think that they had pills with heroin in them, when in fact there was none. Pretty sure I had MDEA once, it felt like a cross between being really, really stoned and rolling. I didn't move the whole night, I just laid there, it felt nice, but I can see how someone might suspect heroin- or some other opiate- was in such a pill if they weren't familiar with what else is out there.

Out of close to 2,000 pills tested by EcstasyData, only 2 have had heroin in them- that is 1/10 of a percent of pills. Assuming that ratio could hold up even for pills that haven't been tested, the likelihood of someone coming across a batch of such pills is slim (unless they are the ones making them)- and if they did, I doubt they'd even know it, since they wouldn't feel it.
 
Maybe for the South American or Asian warlord, it is. But for us hard working, honest Americans...its cheaper and easier to make MDMA. If heroin is so cheap to produce then why isn't every junkie doing so?

I don't think most junkies have the knowledge, chemicals, not to mention the ingredients that it would take to produce heroin lol.
 
i've never had purple stars personally but several ppl i talked to all told me they were really fire. finally getting this thread back on track
 
I think the point that people are trying to make here is that it really doesn't matter which is more expensive to produce, what matters is that heroin is definitely more expensive to produce than fillers- so a producer is losing money by not selling heroin as heroin, but instead using it as essentially a filler, because it does not have a significant effect on the user. If the producer has access to MDMA and heroin, why not sell MDMA and heroin and use fillers to bulk up the pills? It makes no logical sense to use heroin as a filler- especially because it wouldn't actually be enough to feel. So, thinking of it as losing money by not selling two different products, and thus not making twice the $$, yes the producer is preventing themselves from making more money than they could.

As far as I know, MDEA in pills has made people think that they had pills with heroin in them, when in fact there was none. Pretty sure I had MDEA once, it felt like a cross between being really, really stoned and rolling. I didn't move the whole night, I just laid there, it felt nice, but I can see how someone might suspect heroin- or some other opiate- was in such a pill if they weren't familiar with what else is out there.

Out of close to 2,000 pills tested by EcstasyData, only 2 have had heroin in them- that is 1/10 of a percent of pills. Assuming that ratio could hold up even for pills that haven't been tested, the likelihood of someone coming across a batch of such pills is slim (unless they are the ones making them)- and if they did, I doubt they'd even know it, since they wouldn't feel it.

The point I am making, is that while it is unlikely you will ever come across a heroin roll, don't say it can't or won't happen. It can happen, I just have a problem with people spreading lies. I've said this several times, I think.
 
So, it looks like there is another batch of bad green G ladies going around the north east. Perhaps they are the same ones from a few months ago? But user experiences sound a bit different. Someone sold them to a friend of mine, telling him they were light blue ladies before they met- and when he met the guy they were the green ones. So aggravated that he still got 'em after seeing the color was lied about- and didn't tell me when he saw they were vivid green colored- because he picked up some for me and now I'm out $$... I want to strangle him for still buying them. But I'm stupid for having someone pick up stuff for me before seeing it.

Aside from purple stars and light blue ladies, has anyone had anything decent in NYC lately? The past 3 batches of stuff I've gotten have been pipeazine cocktails.
 
@ delsyd the mod yeah ive been doing mdma for almost ten years now so yeah its safe to assume ive done mdma and yes i know mdma can make u feel lazt but i only get the dopey feelin on K pills where i dont wanna move enen with the molly i dont get as dopey im still fuckin shit up glowstringing

sorry man, i didnt mean to offend you. Im sure you've done real MDMA and i apologize for saying you havent.
We all react differently to drugs, i should have remembered that.
 
The point I am making, is that while it is unlikely you will ever come across a heroin roll, don't say it can't or won't happen. It can happen, I just have a problem with people spreading lies. I've said this several times, I think.

sure it can happen. But it wont.

/converszation, as its getting nowhere.

Continue to believe yourself, but please dont go spreading the rumors around.
 
The point I am making, is that while it is unlikely you will ever come across a heroin roll, don't say it can't or won't happen. It can happen, I just have a problem with people spreading lies. I've said this several times, I think.

This convo really is getting nowhere, but I'm going to add one more thing, because I think there is another point being missed here. I'm pretty sure noone is saying that can't happen- but what I think is being implied, from reading the posts, is that your claim that you've seen people get all doped up from pills with heroin isn't possible- not even from ingesting multiple mdma pills laced with it. What you thought was you seeing people getting dopey from heroin-laced pills was, most likely, pills with MDEA (or something else) in them. If you have taken, or been around people who have taken, heroin laced pills, you likely didn't notice it, because it wouldn't be felt by the user. The people who acted like they took laced pills, in all actuality, most likely took something else. Because again, even taking a few pills laced with heroin, it still, most likely, would not have a noticeable affect. There is a whole thread about oral heroin use here on bluelight: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-34637.html- but the general consensus is that you'd need to take quite a bit to get any affect- more than you'd find in (multiple) pills that are predominantly mdma.
 
Word no one is saying its not possible. On that same note anything could be in there. Bluelight isn't about possibilities, its about knowledge based in fact and logic asside from the one incident reported by the DEA in a microgram there is no reason to flip the fuck out. There have been millions probably billions of pills and like I said you have a 99.9999% chance of getting an H free pill. I'm of the opinion that my fellow bluelighters are smart enough to know that anything is possible. There is just no reason or logic behind putting heroin in anything. Its costly for the manufacturer. It adds nothing to the experience at a normal dose. And lastly as evident by the DEA is stupidly unlikely.

Like I said this rumor is not new. That's all its ever been though is a rumor.
 
Word no one is saying its not possible. On that same note anything could be in there. Bluelight isn't about possibilities, its about knowledge based in fact and logic asside from the one incident reported by the DEA in a microgram there is no reason to flip the fuck out. There have been millions probably billions of pills and like I said you have a 99.9999% chance of getting an H free pill. I'm of the opinion that my fellow bluelighters are smart enough to know that anything is possible.

For some reason this reminded me of Hume's argument against the uniformity principle.

But yeah, let's get back on topic, I think everybody has proven their point that heroin in pills might be possible, but is almost guaranteed to never happen for the reasons aforementioned.
 
um so yeah i had blue stars this weekend not the star shaped pill they were circular domed on back really thick i seen on pill reports on em bein in cali and miami but with mixed reviews well i had 2 1/2 throughout the night and they were amazing eyes fluttering like crazy if u come cross em snag em up
 
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