@ delta 9-
im sort of confused why we shouldnt be loading up with as many antioxidants as our body can possibly hold before rolling? doesnt rolling create a ton of oxidative stress? even if our body can handle some amount of oxidative stress i always feel better after if i take a ton of antioxidants. that alone seems reason enough to me.
OK, Now that I have a little more time, I can explain my thoughts on this matter more thoroughly.
Now, I don't feel as though I need to
fully explain what oxidation is from a technical/chemical standpoint, but I will say that oxidation is what keeps us alive. Our entire enzymatic and metabolic systems heavily depend on it. To put it (very) bluntly, redox
is life.
As I mentioned, humans already have endogenous antioxidants systems, granted not as good as some mammals*, but it's still ok.
Excess intake of antioxidants supplements may in the long run actually be harmful, and suppress our bodies' own ability to fight oxidative stress. Taking in large amounts of antioxidants via
food is another matter, and I've seen many epidemiological studies documenting the wide range of positive health benefits from diets rich in antioxidants. It's much better to switch the bulk of your calorie intake to fresh, raw vegetables and fruits.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying you should never take antioxidant supplements(in fact I take several everyday), however I know some people who eat them like candy, and this is what I am against. Also, be aware that the rate at which your body is able to metabolize and utilize many nutrients
decreases as the rate of intake of that nutrient
increases. So taking more dosen't necessarily mean you're getting more.
*For example, humans are unable to complete the final 4th step in the biosynthesis of ascorbic acid, which many mammals can do. We stop just short at gulonolactone
No worries though, gene therapy will fix this soon enough
i would also recommend Acetyl-L Carnitine. i dont know if it is specifically an antioxidant but it works together with ALA and apparently can also protect against peroxynitrites (which are baad). while were at it you're better off taking R-ALA then regular.
I take ALCAR/ALA everyday as well.(1,000mg/250mg respectively, twice daily). These compounds synergize together and increase energy output of your cell's mitochondria(IIRC). ALA is a unique antioxidant in that it actually works inside the mitochondrion(not all antioxidants do this), nuetralizing any excess reactive oxygen species which may be pumped out during the process. Mitochondrial damage/mutation is a HUGE factor in aging.
This isn't something that would be especially helpful when taking mdma, though. The benefits of these compounds are well documented, however there is no
additional need for it in a preload stack.
-also why not magnesium chelate? most bioavailable i thought.
High bioavailability is fine and all, but the malate counterion is one of few that can chelate certain heavy metals and remove them from the body. Kinda a plus is my book :D
