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2010 World Cup, South Africa

I hate to settle for a draw, but as has been the common theme, the US was a heavy underdog, I'll take the point. Especially considering it was a gift anyways. Gotta feel bad for Green, but thank god for that mishandle. Everything after that was a bonus. So granted Altidore didn't get that close attempt that Green batted off the post, but we shouldn't have been in that semi-comfy position in the first place.
 
I presume both teams would've ended up going through regardless of the score today so ultimately this game doesnt matter, but from a fan's/english perspective the way there was a complete lack of passion or interest shown, through nearly the games entirety is just infuriating. How can you wear your nations shirt and not give absolutely everything for the cause? It's shameful.
 
I must say I am happy with the outcome. I feel that the US played a bad game, as did England probably. I have seen the US play way better. I was on the edge of my seat at least half the game!

USA USA USA =)
 
When I say bonus, I don't mean it so much as they shouldn't have had a goal, I mean it in that they shouldn't have scored the one they scored. So with a draw in hand, everything else is just icing on the cake. I know the US is the favorite in their remaining group games, but I can't accept that they're just gonna waltz through this round. They still have to play the games and anything can happen, hence, I'll settle for the point, but I don't think we should be thumping our chests about a draw, even if it was against England.

We did play well defensively, but there were a few gaffes in the backfield that we lucked out on too. Gerrard shouldn't have been allowed to run our defense like he did for the goal, we also let a corner kick sail over our box to the feet of one of the England attackers (can't remember who right now) and left him with enough time and space to shoot, luckily wide. All in all, I thought the US played pretty well and the defense REALLY did step up, but there's still a need to tighten up before we start facing some more tough teams.

I really liked the way Altidore played, and if his ankle was even slightly bothering him, then I can't wait to see how he plays at 100%. Howard was a stud today. Donovan was a tad quieter, but still very effective.
 
You fucking patriot!

I don't know much in the way of US politics, but when it comes to the sporting world, I'm USA all the way. It was rough watching the underdog US hockey team lose to the Canadian team in the Olympics, so I'm trying not to get too high too early. :D

That said, I know a draw for the US was a good result whereas a draw for England was a poor result (considering the respective opponents), but I'm not ready to settle on mediocrity. I wanna stomp the throats of those limey bastards!

=D
 
lol, ok Patton...

Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time.
- Patton's Speech, Somewhere in England, 1944

Yeah, yeah, I'm a little obsessed with historical everything (books, biographies, channels, movies etc.). ;)
 
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World Cup organiser considers vuvuzela ban after TV complaints
Fifa says it will take action if it finds grounds to do so

Their cacophonous din has so far been a soundtrack for the World Cup, to the delight of some and the profound annoyance of others. But organisers said that the vuvuzela, one of the most visible and certainly most audible motifs of the tournament's opening weekend, could yet be banned from inside stadiums.

Organising committee chief executive Danny Jordaan said he would continue to monitor their use and that a ban could be enforced if there were "grounds to do so".

Fifa and organisers have already said that they will ban the instrument if any are thrown onto the pitch or used as a weapon and urged fans not to blow them during national anthems.

"We did say that if any land on the pitch in anger we will take action. We've tried to get some order. We have asked for no vuvuzelas during national anthems or stadium announcements. It's difficult but we're trying to manage the best we can," he told the BBC.

"We've had some broadcasters and individuals [complaining] and it's something we are evaluating on an on-going basis." The BBC and ITV have received complaints from viewers about the background noise and, while both have said they will monitor the situation, they have also made the point that it is important to reflect the atmosphere of the tournament.

Fifa has previously shrugged off complaints from broadcasters, players and coaches about the noise from the plastic horns that are being sold on every street corner in South African host cities.

Following last year's Confederations Cup, there were complaints from coaches, players and broadcasters about the noise. But Fifa said that the horns formed part of the unique African atmosphere of the tournament and refused to ban them.

But Jordaan himself, who battled for 16 years to bring the World Cup to South Africa, said he would prefer the 10 stadiums hosting the World Cup to ring to the sound of singing and dancing than the drone of the vuvuzela.

"I would prefer singing. It's always been a great generator of a wonderful atmosphere in stadiums and I would try to encourage them to sing," he said.

"In the days of the struggle (against apartheid) we were singing, all through our history it's our ability to sing that inspired and drove the emotions."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/13/world-cup-vuvuzela-ban-tv-complaints

Thoughts?
 
^ it doesn't bother me at all. indeed, for me, it's very much the ambient background against which soccer at this level is played.

alasdair
 

Not bad, but in the 'digging up old wars in discussion of football matches' stakes it appears the NY Post could learn something from the English. I can't find it online, unfortunately, but the classic was the cover of the Daily Mirror before England played Germany in the European Championships (like the world cup but only for Europe...): "Achtung! Surrender! For you, Fritz, the Euro 96 is over!", with pictures of two England players in WW2 uniforms :D.
 
Amy, I know US wins 1-1 headline is correct, I saw it posted somewhere else - but now I think about it I'm sure they would have mentioned the Bunker Hill reference, if that was actually real. I feel silly now :|

^ it doesn't bother me at all. indeed, for me, it's very much the ambient background against which soccer at this level is played.

alasdair

spot on correct.

It's bugging me. Noise I don't mind - chanting and singing and everything else, great. Bands playing, great. But the vuvuzela is kinda different - it's not being blown in response to the game itself. It's an ongoing din that occurs for the sake of making a din. It happens no matter how good or how bad the game is...rather than rising and falling in line with the rhythm of the game... I'd much rather hear the chants of the fans themselves, but I haven't noticed much of that - though the English did well occasionally, as did the US.

But it's not the end of the world, obviously :)

Oh, and Cahill was robbed bloody referees biased against the small countries etc. :X
 
Deutschland!!! The red card was overkill, but the Germans killed Australia in every aspect of them game. I can't decide if Germany is really that good, or if Australia is really that bad. A combination of both I'm sure. Beautifully done anyhow. At least one of my teams is looking great so far!
 
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