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Marijuana is the only true drug

fieryslash said:
I believe the rest of them are called addictions. Marijuana is not a gateway drug which is why it is so special. When you smoke, you have the feeling of "coming home." Does one release spiritual energy when one gets "high"? Is the effect so tremendous that there are no words to describe it? Can other people consume your spiritual energy? What exactly is spiritual energy? I believe it is a life-force in which all people share the same feelings. Your thoughts and questions.
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fucking hippies this is why weed is still illegal.
 
I think marijuana is a gateway drug.
There I said it, and I spent so long assuring myself that it wasn't. That's just how it works, cos when you smoke pot you get contacts and when you smoke pot, you need something else to do when you're in the party mood because pot's just pot now.

Argh

OP, I can't help but be jealous of you and the way you feel about weed. I completely disagree with what you said. Pot's just pot, and it's one of many drugs which do different things for you on different days. Yeah it's nice but sometimes it's not. And other drugs are fairly lovely too.
 
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fieryslash said:
I believe the rest of them are called addictions. Marijuana is not a gateway drug which is why it is so special. When you smoke, you have the feeling of "coming home." Does one release spiritual energy when one gets "high"? Is the effect so tremendous that there are no words to describe it? Can other people consume your spiritual energy? What exactly is spiritual energy? I believe it is a life-force in which all people share the same feelings. Your thoughts and questions.
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There's a lot of non-addictive drugs. Mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, DMT, Ayahuasca (which could be grouped in with DMT), and many other hallucinogens, as well as some drugs that aren't hallucinogens.

Also, most people who use addictive drugs don't get addicted, and marijuana has a strong potential for psychological addiction. As a "hard drug" (which is a dumb term imo) user, I can say that I'm more psychologically addicted to weed then I am to any other drug. When I don't have dope or [insert substance name here] I might want it, but when I don't have weed I get depressed and anxious and I can't sleep or eat very much. This might also be related to the fact that I use marijuana to self-medicate, I find it helps get rid of a lot of my mental illness, and it's fun to boot.

That being said, I don't think you know what the definition of drug is. The dictionary defines a drug as "any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals."

Anything that gets you high is a drug. Anything that alters normal bodily function when absorbed into the body is a drug. Marijuana is not the only true drug, it's simply a drug, out of many, many thousands of them.

Also, no, one doesn't release spiritual energy when high. I don't even think spiritual energy exists, unless you view spiritual energy as an actual biological or at least theoretically feasible (like something that makes sense theoretically or has evidence to back it up) function.
 
Why was this thread moved to CD? Almost everyone in CD is a cynical bastage itching to tear apart the next newb or "out there" post.

Just look at the responses after it was moved here. This should have stayed in P&S because it discusses a distinctly SPIRITUAL aspect of marijuana, and that kind of discussion can be safely held in P&S.


Stoners want to discuss weed, not how weed influences their spirituality and/or soul. I'll let the thread post-move speak for itself.
 
People can become psychologically addicted to Cannabis.

I've read threads on here where people who have smoked daily for years complain about withdraw from when they stop smoking daily or quit and granted they are not as harsh as withdrawals from opiates or other drugs are but they are there.

I've read about various philosophies, religions/spirituality, and metaphysics that say that humans are all somehow connected but this does not have anything to do with getting high or smoking herb.

I also don't think that this should have been moved to CD perhaps Psychedelic drugs or Philosophy, religion, and the spirituality forum?
 
daysonatrain said:
^um, what?
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Lol, yeah my bad I was drunk n stoned typing on an iPhone.

Basically I'm saying that if u r going down the path of spirtual energy and such your brain will think anything that u believe is real. So by believing u have this big release of spirtual energy u will start to feel that and more and more things will start to add to the belief but at the end of the day it's all made up in ur head and an idea like that can so easily turn into a full blown delusion. Same with thinking ur psycic will could eventually start to hear voices and feel things that are just ur imagination. Weed + spirtual things (in this phsyical world) will have u fucked in the head in no time.

Those beliefs are 5000 years old, way before real science, real religion based on love and forgiveness rather than killing, drinking blood and semen, and scraffice. If coming from a Christian standpoint, those beliefs came before the time when Jesus took the world back from satan.

Spirtual things will excite u but they r just things that are going to mess up ur head, make u delusional, and make people look at u funny. And what benefit does it bring at the risk of all that?
 
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Have u ever felt like by being near someone the life (force) that makes to live and exist was being sucked out of u like u were dying?

My guess is no. In no way I have ever felt like something was going on on a spirtual level except for moments of extreme joy or happy sadness.

It's just a delusion that will manifest with the more thought u give it.
 
fieryslash said:
I believe the rest of them are called addictions. Marijuana is not a gateway drug which is why it is so special. When you smoke, you have the feeling of "coming home." Does one release spiritual energy when one gets "high"? Is the effect so tremendous that there are no words to describe it? Can other people consume your spiritual energy? What exactly is spiritual energy? I believe it is a life-force in which all people share the same feelings. Your thoughts and questions.
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Marijuana isn't a drug. It naturally, however, contains many drugs.
As far as the "rest of them", many aren't inherently addictive, some are.
As far as spiritual energy; there's no such thing.
 
why is there so much hostility in a marijuana thread?One love people.Where has all the etiquette gone in the drug community,not to mention the humanity?It's just a thread.It isn't set in stone.we should all be able to state our opinions and allow others to do the same without becoming angry,offended and mean over POT.Look,I love herb.If I had an endless supply of high grade marijuana I would want for nothing else,yet nothing in this thread has caused a sarcastic or belittling feeling to overwhelm me so that Ii am forced to reply in a nasty post.It's herb,guys.And it's awesome.So everyone get high and remember why the hell we smoke it.


"If you don't like my fire,then don't come around, 'cause I'm gonna burn one down"~Ben Harper


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKq9JvssB8&feature=related

I saw this show at Bonnaroo 7years ago and it still gives me the best feeling. 150,000 + hippies lighting up at once...it was fucking beautiful.
 
fieryslash said:
I believe the rest of them are called addictions. Marijuana is not a gateway drug which is why it is so special. When you smoke, you have the feeling of "coming home." Does one release spiritual energy when one gets "high"? Is the effect so tremendous that there are no words to describe it? Can other people consume your spiritual energy? What exactly is spiritual energy? I believe it is a life-force in which all people share the same feelings. Your thoughts and questions.
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Sounds like you are addicted to marjiuana.

AussieSWIMer said:
Getting into things like spritual energy, chakras ect are mind pollutants, feelng like you are 'coming home' etc is understabdable and I totally agree that is just a complete feelings of relaxation and the days at an end type thing which is an individual things as people could experience it many different ways but it all relates to relaxation and freeing yourself. But seriously making ur mind believe in things that are not really recohniseable at this point in time like spritual energy and such there is so much danger in making a delusion about it.

Personally I think it would be a better and safer option to devote the benefits to actually use of weed rather than an idea that has the abaility to fuck with your head.
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All I can say is-aside from the grammar being practically incomprehensible...WTF are you talking about?!
 
Well S~4~T, the OP is pretty arrogant about his MJ... Seems like a weed addict claiming all other drugs are bad and the devil etc., etc.. I find it pretty frustrating that weed is turning into the new alcohol, with a large amount of users claiming it does no harm at all and is better then anything else. MJ users need to understand that it's use can indeed be harmful like any other drug. I am aware that some people need it as medication but if you're not ill I would say you have a problem if your toking up 24/7. In that aspect it is not different from say, opiates.
 
AussieSWIMer said:
Lol, yeah my bad I was drunk n stoned typing on an iPhone.

Basically I'm saying that if u r going down the path of spirtual energy and such your brain will think anything that u believe is real. So by believing u have this big release of spirtual energy u will start to feel that and more and more things will start to add to the belief but at the end of the day it's all made up in ur head and an idea like that can so easily turn into a full blown delusion. Same with thinking ur psycic will could eventually start to hear voices and feel things that are just ur imagination. Weed + spirtual things (in this phsyical world) will have u fucked in the head in no time.

Those beliefs are 5000 years old, way before real science, real religion based on love and forgiveness rather than killing, drinking blood and semen, and scraffice8). If coming from a Christian standpoint, those beliefs came before the time when Jesus took the world back from satan.

Spirtual things will excite u but they r just things that are going to mess up ur head, make u delusional, and make people look at u funny. And what benefit does it bring at the risk of all that?
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um, ok... do you know anything about buddhism? it will make people look at me funny8)?
 
daysonatrain said:
um, ok... do you know anything about buddhism? it will make people look at me funny8)?
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Sounds like he's confusing spirituality with religion, and with a very narrow view at that. I don't know many people who look at someone funny because of their beliefs (unless maybe they're really 'out there' ;)).
 
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