Bodybuilders are just drug addicts - nothing more, nothing less.

[BigSlick]

Interesting interview with Nasser El Sonbaty.

"Bodybuilding is a sport where you find a lot of drug addicts. They are former drug addicts and they have come into bodybuilding because they have always used needles and pills or they have done anabolic drugs before and they come over to bodybuilding. So there is no real borderline between being an alcoholic, a bodybuilder and a drug addict.

I know people who have to go every 30 minutes when they are in public to a public restroom to inject nubain because they are nubain addicts. They start using it in the beginning to train harder and longer but they end up using it to get a kick out of it, a high. And nubain is a synthetic drug, a morphine that is basically a cousin of heroin.

I talked to Chad Nichols about seven years ago and he told me that the average nubain bill for one bodybuilder in U.S. dollars is about 1600 dollars per month. I think nubain costs you way more money than synthol so I don't think it is necessarily synthol that is the problem. Because synthol over applied makes a very un-aesthetic appearance but on the other side nubain is more dangerous because it is addictive and synthol is not.

A lot of bodybuilders here in the U.S. are also using ketamine on a regular basis. They mix ketamine with nubain and take anabolic steroids, take ecstasy and cocaine and then sometimes go with this whole combo and compete with it.

In most cases bodybuilders are just drug addicts - nothing more, nothing less. It's not to put myself above them; it's just how it is. And the main reason why people like myself don't consume any kinds of drugs besides anabolic steroids, which I have been taking definitely, is to not become a drug addict."

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson317.htm

What do you guys think about this? It is an interesting perspective. I mean it makes sense, with alcohol being detrimental to a bodybuilding lifestyle drugs are the next viable option.

***I am an aas user as well as a drug user, not trying to piss anyone off, just want to have a discussion.

 

[ResinTeeth]

A lot of bodybuilders here in the U.S. are also using ketamine on a regular basis. They mix ketamine with nubain and take anabolic steroids, take ecstasy and cocaine and then sometimes go with this whole combo and compete with it.

I think that would be pretty interesting to watch. hahahahha

 

[VictorZ06]

My fellow BB friends don not use ecstasy or cocaine as they are well aware of the risks involved when mixing them with AAS. I don't agree with using ketamine or ketaset for any reason. I have use bain in the past and the stuff is strong as hell...a bit too much for me, I don't need it. Most of my bros usually smoke a blunt after a long hard workout, and the occasional benzo. Ket, X, coke....no way. IMHO.

/V

 

[phactor]

I know lots of people that are into lifting that occasionally use yayo or painpills... plus booze.

Not an AAS user, but I occasionally use all of the above. Frankly weightlifting helps keep me from building up an addiction (again... I have been strung out a few times). It has allowed me to cut back my drug use big time.

I'm do not consider myself a bodybuilder, I'm really not into the "scene". My two favorite sports are Hockey and Baseball. I do consider bodybuilding a sport and can name some of the top guys however.

Frankly if you are not competing then a beer or two a night or every few days is not going to kill you. I lift weights for fun and to look good, no way am I going to allow it to stop myself from enjoy myself at a concert or out with friends.

I have no idea of Nassar is a follower of Islam, but I wonder what the faiths perspective on steroids is. I've always like Nassar because he is very intelligent and well educated.

 

[Horrux]

I have certainly lived the life and developed the physique of a bodybuilder, and have considered myself to be one for many a year. I have done this out of firstly health, and secondly to become bigger, and yes I have used steroids and, infrequently, other drugs. A few parties with E & Speed, mushroom, once a year or so.

I consider myself a healthy bodybuilder and there are many like me.

OTOH, you will also find a lot of mindless brutes in the gym, who are basically people who will do anything at all to feel better, and that includes bain, blunts, speed and anything else that might help. So I would say there are both kinds.

I have used every recreational drug there is, except heroin, and never got addicted. I think addictiveness is part of the personality, you either have it and you will become an addict, or you don't and that's that. A bodybuilder who gets addicted to the attention and "respect" he gets out of being big might do anything at all for more of it. Many have killed themselves going for the ever MORE thing. And not with steroids.

 

[the_integerian]

I lift weights (have been for only a few months now) and the only drugs I use on a regular basis are alcohol, weed and caffeine. On occasion I use dxm and on very rare occasions I'll use a psychedelic. I think you are generalizing.

 

[Horrux]

I lift weights (have been for only a few months now) and the only drugs I use on a regular basis are alcohol, weed and caffeine. On occasion I use dxm and on very rare occasions I'll use a psychedelic. I think you are generalizing.

Lifting weights for a few months does not make you "a bodybuilder"...

 

[maakshif]

Sorry to say that this is a pretty bad article. Not really sure Nasser is talking about unless this is an old article, but I'm friends with a few competing bodybuilders and showed this to them and posted this on another steroid forum where there are some other competing bodybuilders, active and retired, and they all said that Nasser is out of his mind. They said that while there are some guys that compete that are drug addicts, most of them don't use anything for recreational purposes and most only take prescription meds as directed.

The whole thing with Nubain is an extremely old thing and most of the guys that have been in pro bodybuilding for years said that Nubain hasn't been used very much at all since the lat 80's early 90's.

Also, bodybuilding.com is a joke of a forum amongst most of the steroid forums and other supplement forums. I was a member there for years and the information they have is very laughable. One forum I'm on will actually ban you for posting links to bb.com for anything other articles like this one.

 

[SnrG]

Addicts are everywhere. I don't think he's making any sense at all. Maybe he was stoned when he did the interview

 

[Wizzle]

What I do notice is that a lot of bodybuilders - especially the ones that use steroids - have emotional/mental issues. Narcissistic/antisocial personalities seem to be really common and of course muscle dysmorphia. Drug (ab)use is really common with APD/NPD so a high rate of drug use doesn't surprise me. However, they do tend to use the kind of drugs that don't fuck with your gains to much, like ghb. Please note that I'm not saying this affects all or most bodybuilders but definitely a lot more than the general population.

APD/NPD is also quite noticeable by counting the amount of asshole remarks found in steroid forums as opposed to other drug forums.

 

[Horrux]

What I do notice is that a lot of bodybuilders - especially the ones that use steroids - have emotional/mental issues. Narcissistic/antisocial personalities seem to be really common and of course muscle dysmorphia. Drug (ab)use is really common with APD/NPD so a high rate of drug use doesn't surprise me. However, they do tend to use the kind of drugs that don't fuck with your gains to much, like ghb. Please note that I'm not saying this affects all or most bodybuilders but definitely a lot more than the general population.

APD/NPD is also quite noticeable by counting the amount of asshole remarks found in steroid forums as opposed to other drug forums.

Having used steroids extensively myself and knowing many people who do, and don't, I feel entitled to asserting that steroid users have no more emotional or mental issues than people who do not use them. One thing to keep in mind though is the the psychological "drive" effect which is given by steroids will make these issues more apparent. Steroids can make you more assertive and as such amplify the impression of issues on the receiving end of their expression.

An asshole on steroids is a bigger asshole. A nice guy on steroids is still a nice guy though, although you are bound to notice the asshole more...