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MDPV Megathread 4 - Egosyntonics R Us

SHM fair fucking play to you mate. I duno how old you are man but I'd say she's a pretty damn foxy lady! ;)
 
Can't believe I'm back on this thread again after my first pv binge which ended somewhere at the tail-end of day 3 with me in some pretty anxious (and a little paranoid for good measure state) which took several days to recover from. To be fair I had done meph in the day before starting the pv which was clearly quite foolish.

Physically I never had a problem but it in combination with the madness of sleep deprivation, well bottom line I had my fingers burnt. So today I weighed out 50mg and posted the rest back to myself to prevent any similar carry on.

Right I'm off to porn land but no doubt I will tire of wanking my shrunken cock and return more verbose than ever.
 
Treacle said:
In your opinion.
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Mine as well. The only thing Red Bull & peevee have in common is a god awful taste


The queasyness is due to the amount of dopamine floating around in the synapses. Any dopaminergic drug will cause nausea if you take enough due to the action of dopamine in the chemoreceptor trigger zone (aka vomit central)

I have this from swallowing too much air (tend to overbreathe on pv and meph) and combined with increase stomach acid. Means 9hours later I can spend 4 hours occasionally suddenly gagging trying to throw up.
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Swallowing air wont help, but I swallow air on psychedelics and it doesn't make me queasy in the slightest (I do fart an incredible amount though! =D). All to do with dopamine & the CTZ.


BTW peevee seems to work better as an aphrodisiac in women than it does in men, well in my experience (was going ti dig out a photo of ex mrs f&b off her face and decked out in goth fetishwear, but thought better seeing she's now my ex and I'm hoping to woo her back)


One last thing, the tolerance issue with peevee is fuckin' rediculous. I've been on a bit of a binge since they made it illegal and am now at the point where a single dose (IMed) is in the 40-50mg range. I must give it a rest if I am to conserve any of what I have left!
 
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Ran out of pv about 2 hours ago and after 20mins contemplation of how I could break into the post box at the bottom of my street, I gave up the idea and had a joint (of african brickweed no sensi unfortunately) a wee drink of a some single malt (plus water cos I'm a pussy really) then about 30mins ago I insuffulated about 20mg of oxycodone (crushed oxycontin). All in all feeling pretty good but nothing special.
 
lol this thread peeveed out <3

i've determined rectal administration of 3/4mg of material every few hours to be a [relatively] acceptable aid for full day study sessions. emergency situations only :p
 
rectal administration?

omg lol!! ur not really fussed about the chemical buzz, r u? ;)
 
LOL naq!!!! :)

dude ur off the hook an it seems da first G on this board to get it! :)
 
naginnudej said:
lol this thread peeveed out <3
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Not peeveed out so much as in a lull between binges, I'd say. Sleeping it off for a while. No more next day delivery requires actual planning ahead and ordering from overseas (not that anyone would do such illegal things) and other such "stuff" to be employed. I have a feeling in me waters there's life in the ol' peev thread yet. Maybe just a bit less high-profile like the geebee thread when that was banned. You can't keep a peevee fiend down!!! Unless you give him a bag of peevee, a sheet of tinfoil and a stack of porn maybe.
 
really just sounds like hyperventilation as a symptom of anxiety to me, never happens to me without going too long without sleep.
 
two posts from you from within the past couple of weeks

Texyemma said:
Only bad point against it for me that I can find so far is I experience unpleasant anxiety on the come down. Compared to the come down I feel with Coke and speed its not so bad.
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Texyemma said:
Agreed Treacle. I like the anxious come up of PV but tend to feel more nasty anxiety when it wears off. Its not pleasant at all. Its okay when you're kicking about the house but if you've got to be somewhere or do something.
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you don't have to have an anxiety disorder day to day to experience anxiety symptoms from stimulants and no sleep and it's quite possible to feel physical symptoms without mental anguish.
 
Texyemma said:
See, I would agree with you there except I dont have anxiety. I get stressed sometimes but dont get the whole anxiety thing.

Plus, I'm ususally chilled and relaxed when this happens. Just a theory.
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Your thoughts are still going a mile a minute. Even if you don't recognize them to be of anxious origin your body reacts to them as such (imho).
 
how do you know it is not anxiety? as i said there doesn't have to be accompanying mental feelings especially with stimulants, this really sounds like a psychological symptom
i dont think contraction alkalosis is common with stimulants or just forgetting to drink enough at all isn't it usually just through severe fluid loss ie vomitting and diarrhoea?
 
it does have symptoms you're hyperventilating...
it's a classic effect of stimulants, the racing mind and increased adrenaline mimic the effects of anxiety at times so sometimes you experience other symptoms
 
I like your logic Emma, but you did have contraction alkalosis the last thing your body would want to do is blow off more carbon dioxide and reduce the acidity in your blood further!

Also dehydrating yourself to the point of activating the renin-angiotensin system would mean you were extremely poorly indeed and in need of urgent hospital admission and fluids etc..

It does sound like straight forward hyperventilation to me, your body is generally pretty good at regulating acid/base and electrolyte levels.. but drinking plenty of water on a mdpv binge sounds like an excellent idea especially if you tend to pee a lot, and who knows it may do the trick cos your body is generally feeling a bit better :)
 
the physical symptoms of anxiety are caused by excess adrenaline
MDPV is an NDRI (norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor) both norepinephrine and dopamine metabolise partially to adrenaline.
there we have excess adrenaline to cause anxious symptoms without the mental trigger normally needed to cause the release of adrenaline
 
No worries, it's good to have a think about things and your logic was good (up to the confusion over being acidotic or alkalotic but it is a complicated area!) Often the simplest answer is the right one though and stimulant induced hyperventilation definitely seems like the most likely thing to be going on here.. if it helps, there is no way you will actually be low in oxygen when you hyperventilate, trying to remind yourself of that might help to calm your breathing down a bit.. worth a try!
 
Status update: After ~6 months and a (apparently moderate?) total dose of 5.5-6g, I can now join the ranks of those who... don't think that this drug is a very good idea.

I was lonely and withdrawn before, but now I've additionally become such a paranoid mess. For the last few days (at least - maybe I'm just now noticing it), I've been having pre-acoustic hallucinations consisting of interpreting stuff into the normal ambient noise around my apartment... classic paranoid-delusional commenting on my life, e.g. "he takes drugs" "he lies in bed all the time" "he's on his computer all the time". Obviously, these are really just the things *I* despise about my current life.

I'm basically locking myself in my apartment all day with the window blinds down, or sometimes with the blinds up and bravely attempting to confront the paranoia / the imaginary stares of the world :rollseyes:

I feel an indescribably pervasive loneliness, I've had cynical thoughts about lots of stuff, doubting the possibility of true connectedness or friendship or love, everything seems mean, desolate, empty, vain... It's horrible. These themes are not new in my thinking, but they've become very emphasized.

I really want nothing now but to overcome this loneliness, become human, be close to somebody. But I'm aware that jumping into a pathological needy friendship or relationship now is NOT the way to go either.

I'm still under the influence and I'm pretty sure the acoustic stuff will stop soon after I stop. But I'm so very scared that the existential loneliness themes are real, and scared of facing reality again.

My primary hope now is that I'm just blowing all the obstacles out of proportion due to this paranoid spiral, and that it's not too late to turn around :(

Edit: Notice a pattern in the paragraph beginnings? ;) This stimulant egocentrism contributes to the terrible feeling of profound loneliness I was talking about.
 
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