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Tired of giving reassurance to psychedelic virgins

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melquiades

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Hi psy,

Out of my friends, (both my college clique and high school/local clique), I've been the first to try psychedelics. I haven't done that much, but I had to go through some intense early trips with no experienced trip-sitters. The most I got was people who had smoked lots of weed- and at the worst, I had a girl who had barely drank and didn't do any other drugs. (She gave me a bad trip...)

I haven't been trying to push psychedelics on them, I just mention my stories when they seem relevant in conversation. And my friends are maturing, feeling adventurous, and they're starting to be curious about psyches. But like... they're just so nervous about it! And there's so much shitty propaganda about psychedelics out today that they are worried about, and I'm always in a position to have to give reassurance, to be a provider of clarity.

And I'm tired of it. Sure, I was paranoid my first time. I read a lot online, and I talked to the 1 person I knew who had done psyches. But I did it anyway! I had some terrifyingly awkward moments my first two trips. But I survived, and I'm still normal. I'm tired of having to defend psychedelics against people's unreasonable fears. Why won't they just loosen up and take a leap of faith?

And like... is there anything different I can do? I feel like reassuring them is the best way to encourage them, but a lot of the times I feel like saying: "It won't kill you, if you want to know more then just take it."

Sorry for the negative energy, psy. <3 I hope I can get some good advice. (Or maybe some reassurance? =D )
 
The best thing you can do is just point them towards the right information and have them read a few good trip reports of them chemical they will take. This will give them a better idea of what to expect and they will realize that psychedelics are not going to destroy their brain and stay in their spinal fluid for the next 50 years.
 
Stop talking to them about it.

You can't decide for them. If you've told them everything you feel is necessary to help them make a decision then what else is there to say?

STFU and eat the drugs or don't. If you want to know what's going to happen read about it. :D
 
Yeah, don't try to talk them into it too much. If they are interested tell them to do research on it and decide for themselves. That's what everyone should be doing before they ingest these powerful chemicals.
 
If this is happening often, you might have a set bunch of reading for people considering whether to use psychedelics.

Th reading list might include:

*preparation
*dosages
* good/bad trip reports
* drug mixing
* long-term physical and mental health effects

And you could add whatever else to that list you think is appropriate based on the kinds of questions people are asking you.

Nowadays, a new user is surrounded by information. He won't quite know though that it is there, or what to look for. A 'guide' to tripping need only be made once with occasional updates.

Good luck
 
Dark Horse said:
Nowadays, a new user is surrounded by information. He won't quite know though that it is there, or what to look for. A 'guide' to tripping need only be made once with occasional updates.
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True! In my honest opinion, internet is a very poor alternative for a knowledgeable person who tells you what you need to know; For all I care, while being a great source of information that fabled internet, all the train wrecks, disasters, bad trip reports et cetera have made me a lot more anxious, despite several trips behind me. A trip is a lot better if all you know is, "it's going to be good", than "it might be good.. or a total catastrophe where I end up to hospital, vomiting and unconsicous, after having tried to stab a police officer", and someone else is with you take care of the situation in the rare case that something does go wrong..

Been thinking that's why my first trips were so great. I had close to zero knowledge, only very trustable friends. No problems arose that way, not even any anxiety.
 
ive only ever tripped alone. people dont seem to get at all what tripping is like unless theyve done it...i tried shroomies, lsd and 2c-e alone no problems.
 
i did tons of online research before the trip, however nothing can prepare you for the first trip. if your sick of it, tell them to go to erowid and research themselves. personally, when i first got into hallucinogens i was totally into turning everyone on that i could. now ill help people if they want but i dont talk about it that much unless brought up by someone else.
 
"Encouraging" them is tantamount to peer pressure. Why don't you let them decide what they want to do if they want to do and let them arrive at their own conclusions as far as how they decide they feel about it? Not everyone is going to like the things that you do. Also, your experiences with psychedelics may be very important to you, but your friends may not be as interested. Psychedelics are the type of experience people shouldn't go into unless they decide that they want to do it and are ready for it. You do not need to feel as though you have to correct every misconception that others may have about psychedelics and "convert" them as it were. If they eventually decide for themselves that they are interested in exploring then I am sure they will let you know.
 
Refer them to places they can check themselves to get informed.

I don't like it either when people come here and ask questions they could have found out about easily themselves. Why should we put in the effort they are not willing to, that is not fair at all.

But other than that, I am all for intelligent inquiry!
 
Damien said:
Stop talking to them about it.
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Agreed.

If someone has to be nudged toward the psychedelic experience, its likely they aren't ready for the experience yet (if ever): psychedelia is a very esoteric and strange path that tends to only agree with certain personalities. Rare is the person who enjoys raising up so many unanswerable questions and bizarre perspectives of reality. You should let sleeping dogs lie, and allow them to coast on the surface of things if they so choose. If they want to dive deeper, they can seek out the experience themselves-- in their own time, and on their own terms.

Whatever you do, never exaggerate the benefits of psychedelics in order to counter negative propaganda; you're not trying to sell a used car, don't try to sway anyone's opinion one way or the other. If queried, be honest that psychedelics are very useful tools but also come with risks. That's my opinion.
 
Related question:

What if your friends somehow find out that you are doing psychs, and they begin to judge and ostracize you for that? In that case, you have two unpleasant options: 1) try to defend your choices (good luck with that), or 2) drop them as friends, even if they're otherwise good people that you like hanging around with.
 
drewmandan said:
Related question:

What if your friends somehow find out that you are doing psychs, and they begin to judge and ostracize you for that? In that case, you have two unpleasant options: 1) try to defend your choices (good luck with that), or 2) drop them as friends, even if they're otherwise good people that you like hanging around with.
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Why would you want to be friends with someone who is willing to employ coercive tactics of social manipulation in order to modify your behaviors?

People who go through life demanding that others acquiesce to their social pressures deserve to end up friendless.

Just be yourself, and they can be friends with you if they want to be friends with that person. The person you are right now, not the person you would be if you did this or that.
 
drewmandan said:
Related question:

What if your friends somehow find out that you are doing psychs, and they begin to judge and ostracize you for that? In that case, you have two unpleasant options: 1) try to defend your choices (good luck with that), or 2) drop them as friends, even if they're otherwise good people that you like hanging around with.
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You should defend your choices and if they are true friends they will not ostracize you...
My Close friends don't personally like any drugs at all besides alcohol but they accept me for who I am, that is why they are my friends.
 
Psychedelia definitely needs to be sought before it is truly found.

The best that can be done is to educate. Destroy the untruths which frighten away those victims of their culture's flaws.

One point that I find worthy of mention is the fact that one will inevitably be misled by literature on the psychedelic experience, simply because there are no words that can accurately convey it! It's like going to an art show, and viewing it all through a toilet paper tube with one eye closed, then being asked to make a purchase. There's a little bit of a leap of faith that needs to occur.
 
Because otherwise the experience is entered forcibly, which I'm sure we'd both agree would not lead anywhere pleasant. Maybe a form of psychedelia, but a destructive one.
 
If people are already closed minded about psychedelics then there really isn't a way to change that. Don't talk about it with them or find friends who are interested in psychedelics. I don't hang out with people who judge me because people who are judgmental about shit like that aren't fun people to hang out with.

I don't bring up things like psychedelic in a conversation unless the other person mentions it first, it's not something most people are interested in or even care about.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to take psychedelic unless they already expressed an interest in trying them. Someone who is hesitant to take psychedelics isn't mentally or spiritually ready to take them.
 
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