Family Intervention

man im realy sorry i missed this thread...

but it sounds like everything is working out for the best so far. it must of been real humbling moving back home, and reaclimating to a whole new life no less! the best part though, is that this new life not only sounds like a good one, but is, and now is your choice to keep! ;)

youre off on the right start, and let me tell you, please llisten... it only gets easier with time, not always better, but easier. ;)


much love
 
It is still hard, like today is harder than yesterday, and tomorrow will probably be better than today, but I guess that is how it is. Its like a roller coaster ride. This is the longest that I have been clean. It is getting a little easier, one day at a time. The mental cravings are not eating me alive as bad, and the physical effects have subsided. Thank you guys for the kind words and support. I didn't get on here for a few days after moving home because this site makes me think about "it". Its not as bad now since its been a week, so I will continue on BL regularly from now on. At least on The Dark Side forum. Maybe if I can help at least one other person, that is what will make it worth while. Like ya'll helped me, I love this community. I will continue to keep in touch and I look forward to talking to you guys more.

Thank You All So Much :)
-Drewskie

" Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." - Confucius
 
P.S. its snowing here, I love it when it snows. It makes me SOOO HAPPY :)
I live in Alabama, it never snows here :(

" nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." - Emerson
 
if BL and TDS put a damper in you being you, then shov it off. but ;) after visiting a few times you can reassociate it, and maybe reach out to someone else going through similar pain...

"Maybe if I can help at least one other person, that is what will make it worth while. "
- drewskie

there will be other real life triggers that will not be as easy to deal with because, they are in your face all the time unwittingly.its a crucial part of recovery; triggers.

but you are doing an ace job so far, step by step, at your own pace, with a little extra push from that good sholder ;)

good f'n luck, not that luck has anything to do with it, ut good luck in your other endeavorers anyway!
 
^^^^

With my good shoulder, Panic in Paradise, this made me laugh my ass off. I was like does he know I just had shoulder surgery, wait, he does know, I told him. LOL. I needed that.
 
the real "comedown"

Well it seems as though I'm about to go through a family intervention whether I like it or not. I'm 23 and have been addicted to hydrocodone and thank God I've never done heroin, I heavily abuse hydrocodone daily. My family is worried about me, though I act normal on opiates like most do, they think that I'm killing myself slowly. There are making me move back home, and though they are not mad at me, they want me to be clean and have a productive, happy life. I thought I did but I guess if your on opiates you can't be productive, they think anyway. Thats the opposite in my case, they make me productive and social. Either way it probably is for the best and it will be hard and no fucking fun at all. Although, I will save a lot of money, I'm not looking forward to this. I would like to hear anyone's thoughts form people thats had to go through this, and any advice and help. I do want to quit using, and that makes this more likely to work. THanks for any input.


After all off this I did not tell how this came to be. I knew that I was falling deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. This "intervention" was inevitable with a loving family like mine, which I am truly grateful for, backing me up with support. I was wanting to get clean but just could not do it on my own. I wanted to get clean and stop having to figure out how I was going to get high every day. Since my family was only waiting for me to want help and to ask for it, they did not force or threaten me to move home and clean up. I did that all on my own because they knew that I would not clean up by being forced, but only after I wanted to do it. After I realized this, and wanted to be clean, I prepared myself for what I was about to go through. A few weeks before I told my family I needed to move home and get help I tried winging myself off of years worth of habits. From the habit of taking pills every other hour, to the rush of trying to find them. Not to mention the euphoria and high the pills brought about.

So, when I realized I was ready for help, I made my "stash"( Fentanyl, hydrocodone, darvocet) This was all purchased at the same time and I have not purchased anything else since this. I acquired a box of 5 100 mcg/hr transdermal fentanyl patches. I wore one at a time for two days a piece. This actually might sound absolutely ridiculous to some, but for me it helped take the focus off of trying to find pills everyday, which had become a habit for me, it acquired most my time and my thoughts, so it controlled me. I know this is a strong opiod, but it REALLY helped me not to think about it as much. I could put on a patch and forget about the worry of trying to find something for two or three days. I DID NOT ABUSE THESE PATCHES IN ANY WAY. Meaning I didn't cut them open and eat or smoke the gel. I know wearing them was abuse, as I didn't "need" them, but I did only wear them.


After about ten days or so when I ran out of patches, I stepped down to the 10/500 hydrocodone pills. I had 20 of these pills. I took three a day, (morning, noon, and night,) for 4 days. Then I went down to 2 a day for 4 more days. In this stage I was not trying to get high, which I wasn't, but only trying to continue to wean myself off of the habit as well as the addiction. It was amazing how well the patches worked to break the cycle of always thinking about trying to "find" something. The patches also do not have the euphoria that other opiates do, if not abused. The weaning with the hydrocodone went very well to abate any withdrawls I might have had.

After the hydrocodone I had quite a few darvocet at my disposal. I would take about 6 pills evenly throughout the day to start off with, as I am aware of the dangers of darvocet. I did this for a few days and gradually went down to only 2 a day for a few more days and then I quit. The day after I quit was the day I called my father and told him to come get me and bring me home. He was there within and hour. That next week after he picked me up and brought me home was when I posted this original thread.

I have been clean now for going on three weeks, I think, I have lost track of time almost. I don't recommend this for anyone. I just wanted to tell the entire story of how I got my second chance. I was always terrified of going through withdrawls, but this was the best way that I could come up with. Some might look at this and think "no way that worked" but that is how it worked for me. I'm not really a cold turkey kinda person. I don't like being sick and will do anything to feel better. This should go without mentioning,
but the past few weeks I have still been in the acute withdrawl phase, and I still partially am. Every day is ten times better than the last day. I only have a little ways to go until it is finally over and drugs will no longer run my life.. I WILL ALWAYS BE AN ADDICT!!! I can never relapse or it will be " here we go again". Just because I don't use, does not mean that I don't have the tendency to use. An alcoholic is always a recovered alcoholic. Same in my case.

I just want to thank every one here for the support and interest that you have given me. I know my method sounds ridiculous, I just wanted to tell you all how I got clean without going through absolute hell. In which case would have most likely caused me to have continue abusing drugs. Thank you for listening and may you all live out a full and happy life. :)
 
Man, you are an inspiration for so many! I really hope a lot of people read this thread in-full and take your story to heart. I admit that I was a bit worried for you at the start, but you really have shown yourself as a very strong, motivated and confident person. You took your addiction and you showed it who was boss!

I/we can only hope that you'll stick around here and share your advice with others who desire to reach similar goals as yourself.

Life is good now, ain't it? :)
 
Thank you redleader, life is great now. I will be on BL as long as you guys will have me. I would love to be able to help people fight this terrible battle. Now that I have been on both sides of addiction, that will enable me not only to understand where someone is coming from, but also help them see how the grass is greener on the other side. I believe I was put on this Earth to help people, that is what I have always wanted to do. Come to find out I had to help myself first though. I have been in nursing school so I can help people that can't help themselves. Thank you RL.
 
I believe I was put on this Earth to help people, that is what I have always wanted to do. Come to find out I had to help myself first though.

Looks like you're on your way to understanding. If you can't help/love/accept yourself, [universal "you"] you can't understand anybody else. It seems as though you learned that lesson, even though it was the hard way. That's an incredibly difficult thing to learn! Good for you. I've yet to fully understand the matter myself.

Congratulations on your three weeks clean, it's no small accomplishment. Keep up the good work, and you're well on your way to a happy and adaptive life. It is also gratifying that you have a wonderful family. I do not know what kind of horrible gutter I would be in if not for mine, and they did not intervene in my case. They and you sound like wonderful people. I wish you all success, happiness, and all good things.

Tapering is a more sensible way than cold turkey for most drugs. You're well through the withdrawals. With the support of your family, IRL friends, and those you've found here on Bluelight - yep, I think you'll make it not only just fine, but better. I wish you the continued best academically, mentally, and emotionally. You're on the right path - stay on that path and everything will turn out better than fine. :)
 
Good luck man! The hardest part for me to kick is that opiates have no bad effects on my life. The money I've spent is absurb but my life is great. I have the so called American dream. Own house, 2 cars in the driveway and still have lots of money in the bank in spite of hard drug use. Got a great marriage and all that stuff so except for the money part it caused me no problem. I find it hard as hell to quit because of this. Not bragging but I got my shit together way more then alot of straight people I know. Yes I would have a hell of a hard time quiting drugs altogether but as far as drugs ruining my life, I say BULLSHIT. Again good luck with your family.
 
The way you did it is actually a pretty good idea, at least IMO. I got off opiates in a similar fashion but different drugs were involved. I'm also not a c/t kinda person. I was on H for a few months, then on suboxone for a few months, then took tramadol for 10 days, 100mg twice daily, then last 10 days was just sporadic tramadol as needed and benzos like xanax, valium, klonopin. I barely had any w/d and after being on sub for as long as I was the w/d are long and difficult. I just had some insomnia which ambien took care of and RLS which benzos took care of and once I was done with the benzos I was feeling 90% normal.

So I think these kinds of plans of stepping down the ladder are more effective than just cold turkey for many people. I don't think there are many who can stand cold turkey, but some sort of system like what you or I did, can really cut the w/d down to almost zero and therefore really increase the chance that the person will be able to get to the other side.

W/o the route I did I don't think I would have been able to stop opiate. I really tried many times w/d success and then I tried the tramadol and benzo route and it worked.

It's just something to think about for those who are considering quitting and are able to get some meds. For a large habit I suggest suboxone, then tramadol, then benzos. C/t can be so agonizing that it can make people to terrible things just to stop the pain.
 
^^^^ I agree. C/T can make you almost temporarily insane. I have seen people do things while in withdrawals that they would never do in their right state of mind, even if that is on
drugs. I know when I used to run dry and go into WD's I would do almost anything to make the pain and suffering stop. When I realized this after a few times of withdrawals how "hooked" I was and how it turned me into someone else that would do almost anything for drugs, that is when I said " this is enough".

I knew I could not go cold turkey, I know I was addicted, but I think knowing you can't do it alone or without anything to tapper with does not make you more of an addict. It means that you are finally being honest with yourself, and that was my biggest hurdle. Looking myself in the mirror and saying that "you CAN'T quit anytime you want to like you have told yourself for years". I had to WANT to quit. And that is the harshest reality that I have faced. I would tell myself, oh two more won't hurt you, what have you got to loose. I finally realized that it was my life, my well being, and my family that I had to loose. Then I prepared to quit and eventually did quit. As I realize now, I was really sick and tired of having to take something to get out of bed and feel normal and like doing something. This was really like what the hell have I been doing with my life. I'm one of those people that have to learn the hard way though, oh well.
 
That actually sounds kinda nice... CWE for sure though eh? Cold Water Extraction. I know a lady who is 35 and claims shes been eating 100 tylenol a day for the past 10 years... Not that you should lol. I actually saw her eat the full 100 one day. I was like OMFG OMFG. Shes like what? WHAT?? I asked her why she does that and she said to make her feel normal. :( Suicide.
 
I used to get the same way with opiates. They'd make me want to grab the world by the balls. Eventually my tolerance skyrocketed, I went on Suboxone, and after a year of taking that it went from making me productive to making me apathetic as fuck, especially when it came to doing boring things even if they were good for me.

Point being, opiates made me happy, productive, more social, calmer, etc., etc. at first, but those effects really diminish over time in my experience. Quit before opiate addiction really fucks your life up. Good luck. I think the Darvocet taper sounds like a good plan.

the truth. Its been four years for me. at first i felt on top of the world, have i really found a wonder drug?!?!?! i thought opiates made me the person i always wanted to be. Until you start spending all your cash. and you cant do normal things without being high, thats when it gets scary. I just got kicked out of rehab for the 2nd time, and relapsed last night with 30mg of hydro. no beauno:X. the easy part is the acute first week withdraws, the PAWS is the hard part my friend. you may need some assistance, but it all depends.
 
Great story. Thanks, u really opened my eyes some more. Im working on kicking a 5 year HEAVY oxy addiction. Hardest part for me is that i really need the meds for my pain (had a nasty motorcycle accident which left me with a hardware store in my body. :S )

Thanks again for this post and all its great replies, u guys are truly great people.

Much Love,

aC
 
^^^ If you need pain meds, that is understandable. I hope that you one day can use them as "directed" if you are not doing so now. Pain meds are a life saver if you are in pain and need them to function pain free. For me they were a life ender because I was in "pain" without them because I had no medical reason to take them. I was, and even that I am clean, will always be an addict. I have to be careful. But I hope that you can use your meds wisely to manage your pain without having the word addiction associated with your medical condition. Best of Luck.

- Drewskie

Just an update, I'm still living the CLEAN life and working with my dad :) I have had NO RELAPSES, :) :)
 
^^ That is so awesome to hear man!! Keep up the good work Drew, and keep the updates coming as well :) <3
 
^^^ If you need pain meds, that is understandable. I hope that you one day can use them as "directed" if you are not doing so now. Pain meds are a life saver if you are in pain and need them to function pain free. For me they were a life ender because I was in "pain" without them because I had no medical reason to take them. I was, and even that I am clean, will always be an addict. I have to be careful. But I hope that you can use your meds wisely to manage your pain without having the word addiction associated with your medical condition. Best of Luck.

- Drewskie

Just an update, I'm still living the CLEAN life and working with my dad :) I have had NO RELAPSES, :) :)

Thanks Bud.

I began abusing them after reality set in that ive lost everything i used love doing (eg. not to brag but i was an exceptional athlete, ..and sports/ hardcore activities like training muay thai, snowboarding extreme mountain biking etc..) was my life, now im depressed as shit and can barely walk :S

Anyways, im tapering off and im set on quitting however there is a big problem. knowing how high relapse percentages are it will be extremely difficult to use my meds for pain giving my injuries/pain without eventually relapsing

There will be Maddd triggering tings aguan....But oh well, ill just have to be strong and do my best.



Thanks for the kind words brother and congrats on being clean. It just gets better with each day, u should be proud of urself. Again, congrats!!!
 
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